I was quoted $51,000 from St Davids and it says if you pay in full there's a 35% discount. Then the 3 doctors anesthesia and EP were billed around $2k each internal medicine Dr was $800. Few other odds and ends. Hospitals and doctors billed insurance over $200,000, ended up paying $58,000 12/22/23 Think you'd be under $45k with Nataleby Kleinkp - AFIBBERS FORUM
Developed PVC's immediately after Natale afibb ablation 2020 that progressively got worse 20k daily over last few years. 11/28/23 went back down to Natale and had a PVC ablation. Still having large #'s of PVC's as of today 12/29. Is the blanking period waiting for scar tissue to form the average 3 months like afibb and there's still hope for success? Thanks any incouraby Kleinkp - AFIBBERS FORUM
His afibb ablation worked. Developed PVC literally right after I woke up 2020. Pretty sure something in the afibb ablation set them off. I'm talking PVC's and if blanking period. Is it same train of thought or if it's supposed to work right away? Quotegloaming There is some repair and re-connect, but far more often it is the case that the heart tissue, as part of its continuby Kleinkp - AFIBBERS FORUM
Sure hope so. Came right back same pattern same burden. So hopefully scar tissue will form and will be done with this is the idea?by Kleinkp - AFIBBERS FORUM
Blanking period for PVC ablation. Immediately following EP's Natale's and Burkhardt's PVC ablation no change in PVC's what so ever (less then 5hrs) Doctor's were able to locate and ablate PVC's. But once I woke up same old PVC's. Is this normal? I know afibb has a waiting/blanking period..by Kleinkp - AFIBBERS FORUM
3 years post ablation, Dr Natale has kept me as his patient. Matter of fact he's my only Dr at this time. I might be his only patent in South Dakota, there not many folks up hereby Kleinkp - AFIBBERS FORUM
Carey has a post at top of forum that I feel is a must read for all. Title is how people end up with multiple ablation. Check it out! I go back every so often and re read it for supporting tough decisions to seek the right treatment. Don't let convenience make your decision. Good luck!by Kleinkp - AFIBBERS FORUM
I have 6 month supply of eliquis from 2021. I know label suggest it has shelf life. But can I use it if needed in future? Stored in temp controlled closet with my other meds stock pile.by Kleinkp - AFIBBERS FORUM
Quotegloaming Yes, physicians want to keep people alive AND well. If your PVC/PAC burden is high, and if it makes your life miserable, you might be helped up the line some. A cancellation does wonders so, yes, get on that list as Daisy suggests. I don't know Natale's obligations, but it must be substantial. An initial consult is probably a few weeks out at most, but the eventualby Kleinkp - AFIBBERS FORUM
Anyone know how far out Natale is booking for Ablation procedures? Weaned off meds and my PVC are even worse than I originally expected every 2-3 beats than PVC 24/7 Medications was starting to lose effectiveness so here iam back in the waiting to get fixed line.by Kleinkp - AFIBBERS FORUM
Pixie my local EP in Seattle refused some testing ordered by Natale after my ablation along with a bad attitude about Natale. I fired that unprofessional jerk on the spot! South Dakota highly underrated, which is fine and NO traffic!! We've been here for about 1.5 yes after government shut down my wife's beauty business during covid twice, we couldn't finicial handle it. So weby Kleinkp - AFIBBERS FORUM
Remained a patient. Natale manages all my prescription etc. Had local cardiologist in Seattle but his ego got in the way of caring for me. Professional jealousy thing with Natale. I have since moved to the midwest (South Dakota), I don't have a local cardiologist or Doctor yet. Should add Natale's team has treated me great and has never tried passing me off.by Kleinkp - AFIBBERS FORUM
Looking likely to have to go back down to Texas for 2nd ablation. PVC's this time. Natale's afibb ablation performed 2020. Unfortunately day one after afibb ablation PVC'S started and have become worse and worse(15%-20%) Will Natale's team need me to physically come down to Texas prior to the actual procedure to do any testing? Trying to be prepared for any time awayby Kleinkp - AFIBBERS FORUM
Thanks everyone I figured I knew the answer already. Really need to address these PVC's and want to address before Natale enjoys very deserved retirement.by Kleinkp - AFIBBERS FORUM
I have to do a heart monitor and nurse wants me off Flec&Met 7 days prior to attaching monitor to chest. While meds are losing their effectiveness they still make life less miserable then the full onslaught of PVC's estimated burden is 10-20k daily. So question is can I stay on meds longer prior to monitor like 2 or 3days before attaching monitor? Any health harm in having 15by Kleinkp - AFIBBERS FORUM
Were your pvc's symptomatic? When I would get around 1k daily wasn't a big deal. But 15-20k a day starts to get pretty uncomfortable.by Kleinkp - AFIBBERS FORUM
Had Natale ablation 3 years ago immediately after starting experiencing PVC 6% total beats. PVC beats calmed to less than 1% for few months after. PVC have now increased to 20+% over last 2 years years. Was put and met/flec and that seemed to calm things down, until now. Meds are not working anymore now next option is Ablation. How does a PVC ablation work, similar to afibb? I've reby Kleinkp - AFIBBERS FORUM
How much are PVC casused by stress?? Seems to go hand in hand with the increase in PVC's..by Kleinkp - AFIBBERS FORUM
Had Natale AFibb Ablation June 2020 have been battling PVC's every since. PVCS have recently reached 7-10k daily went back on metropolol that didn't help much, now on fleciande that works ok cuts PVC's down to less then 1000 daily. My life has been pretty darn stress filled during this recent increase in PVC's big life decisions have been made. Assuming meds are not worby Kleinkp - AFIBBERS FORUM
Carey if Natale stopped/retired today who would be your short list of go to EP's?by Kleinkp - AFIBBERS FORUM
Dr. Robert Rho (Over Lake) has worked with Dr. Natale and is probably one of the top RF ablation operators here in the Pacific NW. I have interviewed 5 of the "top" EP's here in WA state (Seattle area)and most we're all using cryoballon as their instrument of choice. I faced same decision, local EP or arguably the best EP on planet earth. Only advice I can give is donby Kleinkp - AFIBBERS FORUM
Absolutely sorry!! My situation is mandated so it all intertwined and easy to state. That is all I'm wanting as well long term data. I've been nsr for 1.5 years now after ablation, last 10 months completely med free not even an ibuprofen. We had a local young women pass with heart issue after her J&J shot really hit home for us here. Heart inflammation really concerns me as welby Kleinkp - AFIBBERS FORUM
This is the kind of thing that has me greatly concerned about this vaccine. The 1 sizes fits all approach scares the heck out me. With already higher HR after the Ablation along with possible arrhythmia and higher resting heart rate from the Covid vaccine leaves me VERY skeptical. Wish these darn politicians wouldn't have made it there big stick and would just leave it up to the individuaby Kleinkp - AFIBBERS FORUM
George you always have such good natural healing advice. Can you give me some advice on how to possibly get my resting heart rate down? 6'4 male 205lbs fairly active (yard work) just recently added in daily set exercising. Diet of leaner meats fruits and veg (alittle heavy on fruits) avoid extra carbs ie breads/ pasta. Any advice guidance would be greatly appreciated!! Ohh blood pressuby Kleinkp - AFIBBERS FORUM
No meds. 41yr old 6'4 205 fairly active but no set exercising up until about a week ago, BMI is 24. Hoping the exercise and maybe getting BMI down to 22-23 will help. Diet of lean meats fruit and veg and no alcohol. Pulse sitting here is 83??? QuoteKen Last ablation 22 months ago. Current resting pulse - 58. High 60's after the last ablation. Age - 76. Very fit - golf twice aby Kleinkp - AFIBBERS FORUM
Tell you the truth I'm not sure what my tru resting rate prior was because of all the damn meds I was on. 53ish with meds (flex and met). Looked back 8 yrs prior to meds and afibb looked like it was around 70's. Never was a true exercise man but relied on farm chores and yard work to provide my activity levels. Recently have added in some exercise so will see if that can lowerby Kleinkp - AFIBBERS FORUM
1.5 years post successful Ablation still have resting rate mid to high 80's. Adding in extra exercise to see if that can help. My employment also rest on the fact that I can pass a DOT physical so I'm probably overly paranoid about anything that goes into my body.by Kleinkp - AFIBBERS FORUM
I have read that the Covid vaxx can give you increases heart rate and blood pressure. Has anyone had increased HR or blood pressure after their covid vaxx? My heart rate is still higher then pre ablation levels, this has me concerned.. Thanks!!by Kleinkp - AFIBBERS FORUM
Made similar decision ended up going out of state to Dr Natale 6/10/20. Dr. Natale had to do some extra ablating that I can safely say my local EP would never have done. That right there was worth the price of admission!!!by Kleinkp - AFIBBERS FORUM
I'm up against a wall my employer will terminate my employment if I don't receive the jab. I have asked here in the past but was met with some hostility about gaining medical exemption for the Covid jab. Now I'm getting really concerned about it after hearing these stories. Has anyone gotten a medical exemption from their doctor? It's gotten so politicized that you can&by Kleinkp - AFIBBERS FORUM