I have a pacemaker for chronotropic incompetence, and yes it works. If you get one my advice is to ask for it to be “buried” rather than right under the skin!by Daisy - AFIBBERS FORUM
Sounds like what you are asking for is a PM with Rate Response. Rate Response or Rate Adaptive Pacing is used in patients with chronotropic incompetence. Chronotropic incompetence is defined as the inability of the heart to appropriately increase its rate with increased activity or metabolic demand that leads to exercise intolerance. Usually, there is a problem with SA node function. The pby GeorgeN - AFIBBERS FORUM
Quotebettylou4488 I went to my adult congential doc to talk about "chrontropic incompetence". I ended up talking about my mitral valve after they did an echo and it didn't look good. I am looking to see 1) who else on here has had mitral valve issues? (I know there is one at least) and 2) who is a good doctor/ hosptial that would deal with this. Because I have had other surgerieby Daisy - AFIBBERS FORUM
Hmmm, well putting the site name in the search worked for me the few times I tested it, but yeah, google isn't indexing the site as it should and hasn't been for a while. We'll get that fixed. This forum is a huge trove of information that ought to be available to the public.by Carey - AFIBBERS FORUM
QuoteCarey Google can and will search the forum if you put afibbers.org in the search terms, but most people won't do that. Didn't work for me when I tried it. I searched the forum with just afibbers.org. Then tried with https: //www. afibbers.org / forum/list.php?9 {spaces added} Still no hits. Used these arguments with and without the site: argument in the search. As mentioneby GeorgeN - AFIBBERS FORUM
QuoteGeorgeN Google doesn't seem to index the forum part of our site. I don't know if this can be rectified. The reason to rectify is that then our site would show up in general Google searches for a specific topic, giving our site much more visibility. This is something for @Shannon & @Carey to discus. We've discussed the need for search engine optimization and we intenby Carey - AFIBBERS FORUM
I don't think the specific protocol matters, especially in the case of chronotropic incompetence. What they will observe is when the speed or the grade increases your heart rate doesn't.by GeorgeN - AFIBBERS FORUM
Quotebettylou4488 See my post above—multiple treadmill stress tests. Sorry I mis understood because the Bruce Protocol is a treadmill test. A protocol they use on the treadmill tests. I've been googling today so it was just in my head. So you probably did have the Bruce protocol on the treadmill. (basically it is how fast and how much incline and how long etc.. ) They just had meby Daisy - AFIBBERS FORUM
QuoteDaisy See my post above—multiple treadmill stress tests. Sorry I mis understood because the Bruce Protocol is a treadmill test. A protocol they use on the treadmill tests. I've been googling today so it was just in my head. So you probably did have the Bruce protocol on the treadmill. (basically it is how fast and how much incline and how long etc.. )by bettylou4488 - AFIBBERS FORUM
See my post above—multiple treadmill stress tests.by Daisy - AFIBBERS FORUM
QuoteDaisy Well, I was diagnosed with chronotropic incompetence BEFORE having an ablation and didn’t have to do anything like the Bruce protocol to be given the diagnosis. how did they diagnose you? I'm looking for another test perhaps that would indicate what is going on.by bettylou4488 - AFIBBERS FORUM
Quotebettylou4488One person said the ablations can cause it. So there's that. I don't have a pacemaker... and I was just looking up the Bruce Protocol on the treadmill test. No way I could do that (I have in the past), but doing a nuclear I don't see how that works to get at Chronotropic incompetence diagnosis. I am hoping the echo, EKG and Zio will be enough to decipher somethby Daisy - AFIBBERS FORUM
on the searching I have been able to find symptoms in the past with google. I even searched by betlylou2288 when looking for something I had posted. But obviously it isn't that great a way to do it because I couldn't find much on google that way. the above link doesn't have a whole lot in the archives either and what there is, is over a decade old- so if anyone has anythingby bettylou4488 - AFIBBERS FORUM
Quotebettylou4488 I thought I was all smart using google to search for it LOL. A Google search is an idea that will work for many sites. It will work for ours, for things like the Conference Room Proceedings. Google doesn't seem to index the forum part of our site. I don't know if this can be rectified. The reason to rectify is that then our site would show up in general Googleby GeorgeN - AFIBBERS FORUM
Quotebettylou4488 Anyone on here deal with chronotropic incompetence? I searched on the forum and also in google with "afibbers chronotropic incompetence." Came up with one small hit. I can ask more questions but first wondering if anyone is familiar with it.. deals with it. Have some up coming appts. Trying to see if the meds are doing this. If anyone has a newer pacemaker that ebby Daisy - AFIBBERS FORUM
thanks Carey! I thought I was all smart using google to search for it LOL. But that is very handy. QuoteCarey Let me offer you (and everyone else) a handy tip. When you want to search this forum, don't just enter your search terms in the box. Doing that will only search 30 days back. Click the "advanced" link beneath the search box then enter your search terms on that page.by bettylou4488 - AFIBBERS FORUM
Let me offer you (and everyone else) a handy tip. When you want to search this forum, don't just enter your search terms in the box. Doing that will only search 30 days back. Click the "advanced" link beneath the search box then enter your search terms on that page. Then go to the bottom of that page and change "Last 30 days" to "All dates." This is what I fby Carey - AFIBBERS FORUM
Anyone on here deal with chronotropic incompetence? I searched on the forum and also in google with "afibbers chronotropic incompetence." Came up with one small hit. I can ask more questions but first wondering if anyone is familiar with it.. deals with it. Have some up coming appts. Trying to see if the meds are doing this. If anyone has a newer pacemaker that ebbs and flows and gby bettylou4488 - AFIBBERS FORUM
Hi Ingrid, Others can tell you more but I can comment on some things. I also had a low resting heart rate, about 47 daytime and 43 at night. I never found that flecainide had much effect on heart rate but the beta blocker you need to take with it, will—as will diltiazem, which is the main point of taking it when you have an episode. I used it during episodes in the several years before I realiby Daisy - AFIBBERS FORUM
portofcall - One consideration now that you mention cervical stenosis is that any misalignment of the Atlas or cervical compression will impinge on the vagus nerve which travels through that area and also innervtes the heart. You may find that a spinal alignment practitioner who can manipulate the atlas back to it's normal position would give you reliev after several treatments.by Jackie - AFIBBERS FORUM
Larry - I'm wondering if maybe some of the ginger sources you've tried might have also contained some toxicity from where the ginger roots were grown... I never buy ginger from China because nothing there even if marked organic can possibly escape the polluted enviroment ...air and water... therefore soil....so you pick up lead, mercury, arsenic..etc... Typically elevated pulse and Bby Jackie - AFIBBERS FORUM
Diane, Dr. John says, "Heart rhythms for which the elderly require pacemakers are normal in the trained athlete. " In the Circulation article referenced by Dr. John, They say "Athletic patients with these bradyarrhythmias are almost always asymptomatic, and profound bradycardia in the context of rest or sleep does not appear to portend a poor prognosis. Heightened parasymby GeorgeN - AFIBBERS FORUM
Hi George... glad it's organic and hopefully USDA certified as you don't want to be consuming any ginger made from roots grown in China and risk adding those toxic substances from their earth and water. I've mostly used organic ginger root grown in Hawaii if available. Quite often, the capsules have ginger from China. As usual, the use of ginger for afibbers is undoubtedly higby Jackie - AFIBBERS FORUM
Digoxin Excerpts: Pharmacokinetic properties Quinidine, verapamil, and amiodarone increases plasma levels of digoxin (by displacing tissue binding sites and depressing renal digoxin clearance) so plasma digoxin must be monitored carefully. Researchers at Yale University looked at data from an earlier study to see if digoxin affected men and women differently. That study determined thatby Anonymous User - AFIBBERS FORUM
I assume that in a bet blocker is given along with flecainide is to reduce the risk of serious arrhythmia as a rare side effect: A paradoxical increase in the ventricular rate also may occur in patients with atrial fibrillation who receive TAMBOCOR (flecainide) . Concomitant negative chronotropic therapy such as digoxin or beta-blockers may lower the risk of this complication. (From rxlist Warby DickI - AFIBBERS FORUM
Thank you Tim for your excellent response and explanation of your situation. Most helpful and informative. Best wishes to you. Kind regards...sujoby sujo - AFIBBERS FORUM
Tim: It is a St. Jude, dual lead, it was implanted in 1999, I still have the orginal battery, I do not use it very often. It will record any afib episodes, since your pacer is much newer, you probably have a lot more bells and whistles. I still got afib episodes after getting my pacemaker, however, the last few years my afib episodes have greatly lessened, I can go from 3 months to perhaps 6by Elizabeth H. - AFIBBERS FORUM
Liz, My first afib episode resulted in syncope when I converted from afib to nsr. Other than that, I have never had any issues with my bradycardia. What type of pacemaker do you have? What are the other settings like? Timby Tim - AFIBBERS FORUM
Tim: Yes, thank you, I thought perhaps you might have been taking a beta blocker which can cause SSR, this happened to me. I was taking a beta blocker and I also take synthroid for my thyroid---beta blockers can interfere with thyroid hormone uptake so I became hypo. This all led to sick sinus rhythm, I would almost black out when going from an afib episode to NSR. I too had a pacemaker implaby Elizabeth H. - AFIBBERS FORUM
Liz, My resting heart rate was in the mid to low 30s at the time. From my first AFib episode on, my resting heart rate was always attributed to my enduarance training. Due to the low resting rate, I was not a candidate for drug therapy. As I am sure you know, beta blockers slow down the heart rate. After 7 months of no exercise at all, my resting heart rate remained in the mid 40s. I had noby Tim - AFIBBERS FORUM