In my appt yesterday with Dr Tchou at CC, I asked him about meal-induced afib. He said your esophagus runs right by your vagus nerve, so eating can stimulate afib in those who already have a low afib threshold. In my case, where stopping the cholinergic drug Evoxac stopped my meal-induced afib, he suspected that the cholinergic effect had increased my vagal tone over time, and lowered my afibby gehauser - AFIBBERS FORUM
Are you on prescription drugs for any other condition besides afib that might be causing this? Be suspicious of any drug with an arrythmia warning and be suspicious of any drug with a cholinergic effect. I ask because I have meal-induced afib, and it largely resolved after stopping Evoxac, a cholinergic drug I was taking for a dry mouth/dry eyes condition. I had been researching possible sby gehauser - AFIBBERS FORUM
Prayers and best wishes are with you, Shannon. Garyby gehauser - AFIBBERS FORUM
Thanks, Jackie, it's always good to hear from you. Many stimulating ideas there. I am continuing at 1100 mg Mg/day (my current tolerance), but the Mg increases my blood pressure (dunno why) and I had to start Benazepril (ACE inhibitor) to counter that. I watch my diet - it is pretty pristine for the Meniere's I have. I minimize gluten and dairy but I don't cut it out altoby gehauser - AFIBBERS FORUM
EP#1 diagnosed me with atrial flutter based on my Feb 2012 Holter monitor results, and EP#2 said it was atrial fibrillation not atrial flutter, based on same Holter results. I believe I have a-fib due to the irregular heartbeat during episodes. My heart is strong, valves good, no underlying structural cause for AF, based on echo reviewed by both EPs. In AF episode, my heartbeat is irregular,by gehauser - AFIBBERS FORUM
I have LAF since Feb 2012 (heart strong, valves good), and my AF has been progressively getting more frequent, now daily at 4-7 hrs per day. Mg and K supplementation helps a lot, but it requires more and more Mg as the months go by. My AF is almost always induced by eating meals. I have gone to 4 smaller meals per day, but it still occurs at meals. It seems that any meal larger than a snack (by gehauser - AFIBBERS FORUM
I am trying to figure out if I should go to the ER tomorrow, so I am looking for advice here. I started AF in late Jan 2012. I controlled it with 400 mg Mg per day for about a month, then it gradually came back so I went to 700 mg/day Mg, and it went away for 2 weeks. Then it came back gradually so I went to 1000 mg/da Mg and it reduced the duration, but I have progressed to daily AF, even wby gehauser - AFIBBERS FORUM
Wow, I have some good news to report. I finally realized I had only been taking 400 mg/day magnesium instead of 800 (misread serving size), I started increasing it 100 mg every 4 days. I am currently at 700 mg/day and all afib has stopped. I am also having very few ectopics, and no longer is eating a moderate meal enough to stimulate afib. So the magnesium seems to be working again for mby gehauser - AFIBBERS FORUM
Hi: I live in Knoxville TN and I am probably going to get an ablation at either 1) Cleveland Clinic (Dr Tchou) or 2) KU Medical Center in Kansas City (Dr Lakkireddy). Cleveland is 8.5 hr drive and I would have to stay in hotels. Kansas City is 13 hr drive but I could stay with my brother, and I know my way around the city as I used to live there. Those of you who drove long-distance lby gehauser - AFIBBERS FORUM
Jackie: My current Na intake is about 1100 mg/day - I try to keep it under 1000 mg/day (goal) to minimize Meniere's vertigo attacks. Based on my nutrition software, my K intake is around 10,000 mg/day, not counting the 1500mg supplemental. So I think my K/Na intake is more than fine. Thanks for the Mg notes and references - I will look into and absorb what I can. Elizabeth: Tby gehauser - AFIBBERS FORUM
I thought about that, but I thought the slow start was recommended to avoid bowel intolerance. I don't seem to have any problem tolerating the 800 mg/day Mg. Is there any therapeutic reason for a slower start than I took?by gehauser - AFIBBERS FORUM
Robert Wrote: ------------------------------------------------------- > Others may comment differently, but for me, the > more interesting question is, Why did the > supplements work so quickly for you? That is what > seems more surprising/unusual for me than that > they "stopped working". > > For me, it took a couple months of supplementation >by gehauser - AFIBBERS FORUM
Hi All: Since my last post I have seen a 2nd opinion Dr (EP#2) who says I have afib not a-flutter. He has also referred me to Dr Chou at Cleveland Clinic for possible ablation. Both EP#1 and #2 agree my heart is strong and valves are good, based on echocardiogram. My EP#1 saw that Mg supplementation was helping so he did not want to see me again till Nov! However, I am back having afib afterby gehauser - AFIBBERS FORUM
Thanks Erling. Yes, both me and my neurotologist think that I still shed potassium even with the K-sparing diuretic, and I have been on that diuretic for about 9 yrs now with Meniere's. He always says "sodium oh-no" for me, but "potassium oh-yes". Perhaps it is not surprising that I am finding Mg and K deficiencies now after 9 yrs on the diuretic, but of course, it mayby gehauser - AFIBBERS FORUM
Erling Wrote: ------------------------------------------------------- > GH, > > You'll expect frustrations like this until your > serum potassium is at least 4.5 mEq/L for awhile > (up from its present abysmal 3.9). Serum K level > is reflected in the intracellular K level, the > most abundant intracellular cation electrolyte. > > Again, having dietaryby gehauser - AFIBBERS FORUM
Hey, all. I am finding that I only need a little of the recommended Mg supplementation (roughly 66 mg/da, or 2/3 of a tab) to keep me in sinus rhythm. It is amazing how well it works to keep away my atrial flutter. But I have an insidious problem now. My blood pressure rises even after a little divided 33 mg Mg dose (always with food). BP goes from my normal 120/75 to 148/88 or even as hby gehauser - AFIBBERS FORUM
Erling Wrote: ------------------------------------------------------- > Assuming you take the hctz diuretic for high BP > (why else?), I take the diuretic to shed water because fluid buildup is detrimental to Meniere's. But I also take it for blood pressure. I was on 2 diuretics for awhile (one prescribed by my GP for blood pressure and the other prescribed by my neurotologistby gehauser - AFIBBERS FORUM
Thanks Erling and Hans for helpful feedback. I can't really report progress from the gold removal because the day after the gold removal I started the Mg supplements. However, for the several days preceding the gold removal I was having 2-3 hrs of flutters daily, and the day the gold was taken out I had only 1.3 hrs of flutters (before any Mg was added other than 3 Airborne chewables, whby gehauser - AFIBBERS FORUM
Thanks Liz and PeggyM. Well I had the gold crown and the abutment (unknown metal) removed this morning. Did not have my usual morning flutter episode so I was very hopeful, but alas, I started one in the afternoon and am still having it as I write this. I should get the supplements today or tomorrow. My EP says I am a candidate for ablation, but he says that is a short term solution wby gehauser - AFIBBERS FORUM
This is my first post here, but I have lurked for a week or so, and wow, lots of good info. Do I even belong on this forum if my case was diagnosed as “flutter” by my EP and not “a-fib” per se? He says there is a chance mine will turn into a-fib. Assuming you accept me here, here is my story thus far: In Jan 2012, I got short of breath walking up a hill and my heart felt fluttery. That wasby gehauser - AFIBBERS FORUM