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Most of my concern arises due to the incompetence of my cardiologist. I just met another person with persistent afib who goes to the same cardiologist since 2020 and has yet to be referred to EP.
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"Fluttering has made it into my file along the way. Not sure if that is because of me describing an anxious feeling in chest or it showed up on 14 day or 30 day heart monitor readings. I did get a few unusual readings while on 30 day monitor folling EP increasig Flec to max dosage. Could have been panic attacks or reaction to increase Flec or Met. Not had since) "
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The "flutter" parts have little UP and down variation, since it's a regular rhythm. Right ?
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Ok. Getting NSRs again after getting a few “probable atrial fibrilations” and a few “unclassifieds”. None of my ECGs look like the examples above. I guess a few more days of no Flecanaide should lead to nothing but afib readings
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Ablations are rarely 100% effective, especially long-term.
You base that claim on what?
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You want to argue about semantics? your welcome to contradict what has been repeatedly expressed on this site, and stated by Shannon also?
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You want to argue about semantics? your welcome to contradict what has been repeatedly expressed on this site, and stated by Shannon also?
I'm not arguing semantics; I'm arguing basic facts. I asked for a source and I didn't mean the experiences of people here. As Pompon points out, the people who have a successful one-and-done don't come here. They go about their lives and never think about afib. The published rates for successful first ablations of paroxysmal afib are on the order of 65-75%, and those are ablations performed by the entire EP community, not just the maestros. So 65-75% isn't "rarely successful" or even close to it.
This forum has thousands of members you don't see because they never post, and we get 3-5 new members per day, every single day. Many of those people are newly diagnosed with a scary disease they know nothing about and they've come here for information. So I get concerned when I see incorrect information posted, particularly when it's discouraging information. But that's why I asked for references. If you know of a study showing that ablations are rarely successful, I would love to see it. If it's a high-quality, credible study, I'll admit I'm wrong. Until then, I believe 65-75% to be the correct figure.
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So that entitles you to misquote me?
Actually I said "rarely 100% effective" and was referring to Ablations at large, not paroxismal.
If an Ablation was 100% effective, then after one Ablation procedure, there would be no more Arrhythmia ever.
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So that entitles you to misquote me?
Actually I said "rarely 100% effective" and was referring to Ablations at large, not paroxismal.
If an Ablation was 100% effective, then after one Ablation procedure, there would be no more Arrhythmia ever.
Please lighten up. I didn't intentionally misquote you. All I ask is that you stop telling people ablations are rarely effective, okay? That's simply not true. They are 100% effective 65-75% of the time for paroxysmal afib and about 40% of the time for persistent. Those numbers have to be considered separately, and both of them are still nowhere near "rarely 100% effective." However you want to phrase it, that's just not an accurate statement.
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Not to scare the 3-5 new daily lurkers, ablation maybe 65-75% successful but according to this article quoting top rated hospitals and doctors, there is an increase of death rate after an ablation.
[www.tctmd.com]
“ Deaths After Ablation of Atrial Fibrillation ‘Concerning’ in Real-World Analysis
This should serve as a wake-up call that ablation is not a benign procedure and that operator experience matters, say experts.”
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He highlights a 2013 study showing that more than 80% of 93,801 ablations performed between 2000 and 2010 were done by operators doing less than 25 procedures per year.
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Wazni noted that patients also have a responsibility, noting that they sometimes “choose convenience over excellence.”
“Patients aren’t doing their part in seeking out the best possible centers,” he told TCTMD.
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The issue is defining 100% effective or successful. One might think that it means "one and done forever". However, reality is that (just guessing here) almost all ablations are effective and successful, but for HOW LONG? My first was good for 13 years and my second is into my third year. I like to think that my ablations have been effective and successful.
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The issue is defining 100% effective or successful. One might think that it means "one and done forever". However, reality is that (just guessing here) almost all ablations are effective and successful, but for HOW LONG? My first was good for 13 years and my second is into my third year. I like to think that my ablations have been effective and successful.