Post ablation Kardia interpretations August 12, 2021 10:41AM |
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Carey
Some variability is normal, and one or two big discrepancies here or there is also normal, but if there's a big discrepancy on almost every pair of R waves, that's afib.
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Re: Post ablation Kardia interpretations August 13, 2021 08:27AM |
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if Kardia now has this data reduction/algorithm feature, which according to you is a sure idicator of Afib, then why does Kardia not use such a straightforward result as their summary indication of 'possible Afib' ??
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IDbill
Thank you, George. I definitely want to explore this 'time series' HR graphing. I have only the original (2 lead) KardiaMobile with NO Kardiacare package. Not sure, then, that I can access this graphing feature. In any case I can find no 'button' in my App screens (I am on Android) which allows for a version update (or even any readout of what version I have.... mine has been going the same for 2-3 years). Of course they have plenty of Adverts. for upgrading to their kardiacare package which includes what they call "Advanced Determinations" to "get a deeper look at your heart rhythm? Is this the upgrade you refer to (in which case it evidently requires more than just a simple version update)?
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GeorgeN
You will see a lot of big discrepancies between nearly every pair of R waves, but it is still NSR. If you don't plot it out, you miss this. There are other patterns of ectopics, within NSR that can also show a lot of big RR discrepancies.
Re: Post ablation Kardia interpretations August 14, 2021 08:48AM |
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Carey
That image is very low res and blurry, but I don't see big RR discrepancies between nearly every pair of R waves. I only see occasional discrepancies. I wouldn't call that recording afib. I think it's clearly frequent ectopics but not a sustained arrhythmia.
Re: Post ablation Kardia interpretations August 14, 2021 10:44AM |
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GeorgeN
See if you can do what they suggest here to create a pdf: [alivecor.zendesk.com] That is where this graph is located.
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OK, I have been able to locate the Kardia App. version I have been using: it is 5.17.3-01be14300
This is called out as being the latest version (as of July 15, 2021).
So, I seem to be operating with the current version. However this does NOT generate the HR graphs along with the ECG PDFs.
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Carey
Well, you kind of lost me with the various recordings. I'm not sure I remember what the point was. But for sure doctors have been analyzing ECGs with calipers for as long as there have been ECGs, and that's always been the default method of diagnosing afib. Sure, you can bring new technology into play, but my point was simply that you don't really need technology to identify afib in an ECG.
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IDbill
As you and I had begun to suspect, the graph form you presented is ONLY available with their premium subscription. Per my contact with Kardia support:
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Carey
Well, you kind of lost me with the various recordings. I'm not sure I remember what the point was. But for sure doctors have been analyzing ECGs with calipers for as long as there have been ECGs, and that's always been the default method of diagnosing afib. Sure, you can bring new technology into play, but my point was simply that you don't really need technology to identify afib in an ECG.