My 3 year experience with Natto. (Vit K2 connection to NSR) May 12, 2021 10:44PM |
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The results showed a big difference. I was 50 nmol/L (20 ng/mL) and he was 90 nmol/L (36 ng/mL), which is considered ideal for afibbers.
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I’m not aware of whether Steve Carr recommends also taking the Menaquinone 7 form of Vitamin K2 when higher dosages of Vitamin D are routinely taken, but the literature indicates it’s important to do that to help avoid arterial calcifications.
There’s a wealth of info on that topic offered by Cees Vermeer and Leon Schurgers – PhD researchers, University of Maastricht, Netherlands. They have led the way to presenting the science of why this is an important nutrient for vascular health (especially when using Vitamin D). My bone density scans show that my regimen of the D3 along with the K2 MK7 also keeps me in the range of highly-acceptable-- obviously, good news.
Following are links to several interviews on this topic hosted by Richard Passwater, PhD that are worth noting.
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I'm currently dosing at 10,000IU/day + 360mcg K2 MK7. I may back off on that a bit over the summer, providing I can get outside enough and get the UVB from the sun.
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I'm currently dosing at 10,000IU/day + 360mcg K2 MK7. I may back off on that a bit over the summer, providing I can get outside enough and get the UVB from the sun.
I would be interested to know if there has been any resurch done with regard to VitD & VitK2 supplements for afib?
I wonder if Vit K2 supplements plus Vit D could replace natto plus Vit D?
Your dosing seems like it could be a good strating dose.
Any guinea pigs out there.?
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The Anti-Fib
I'm currently dosing at 10,000IU/day + 360mcg K2 MK7. I may back off on that a bit over the summer, providing I can get outside enough and get the UVB from the sun.
I would be interested to know if there has been any resurch done with regard to VitD & VitK2 supplements for afib?
I wonder if Vit K2 supplements plus Vit D could replace natto plus Vit D?
Your dosing seems like it could be a good strating dose.
Any guinea pigs out there.?
I am basically doing what Lorraine is and getting the same Vit D3 levels on the Lab tests (53ng/ml).
I set out to Try the Natto Protocol 2 years ago, but I have only adhered to it intermittently.
For the past 22 months:
--Average of 1 Natto pack every 2 weeks
--180/mcg Vit K2 mk7/day (I also get Vit K2 via eating grass fed butter)
--10-15K IU /Vit D3 supplement
--Commenced Steve Carr's exogenous calcium reduction regimen, (although I am not nearly as strict as he lays out).
--Re-invigoration of Mg intake efforts, (400-500mg orally, Mg Waller Water and Espom salt foot baths).
I have only had 1 episode in the last 20 months, and my ectopy is very minimal. That is pretty good for me, considering a 12 years history of about 80 episodes, and mostly persistent AFIB. (No Ablation)
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The Anti-Fib
Any guinea pigs out there.?
I am basically doing what Lorraine is and getting the same Vit D3 levels on the Lab tests (53ng/ml).
I set out to Try the Natto Protocol 2 years ago, but I have only adhered to it intermittently.
For the past 22 months:
--Average of 1 Natto pack every 2 weeks
--180/mcg Vit K2 mk7/day (I also get Vit K2 via eating grass fed butter)
--10-15K IU /Vit D3 supplement
--Commenced Steve Carr's exogenous calcium reduction regimen, (although I am not nearly as strict as he lays out).
--Re-invigoration of Mg intake efforts, (400-500mg orally, Mg Waller Water and Espom salt foot baths).
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The Anti-Fib
I'm currently dosing at 10,000IU/day + 360mcg K2 MK7. I may back off on that a bit over the summer, providing I can get outside enough and get the UVB from the sun.
I would be interested to know if there has been any resurch done with regard to VitD & VitK2 supplements for afib?
I wonder if Vit K2 supplements plus Vit D could replace natto plus Vit D?
Your dosing seems like it could be a good strating dose.
Any guinea pigs out there.?
I am basically doing what Lorraine is and getting the same Vit D3 levels on the Lab tests (53ng/ml).
I set out to Try the Natto Protocol 2 years ago, but I have only adhered to it intermittently.
For the past 22 months:
--Average of 1 Natto pack every 2 weeks
--180/mcg Vit K2 mk7/day (I also get Vit K2 via eating grass fed butter)
--10-15K IU /Vit D3 supplement
--Commenced Steve Carr's exogenous calcium reduction regimen, (although I am not nearly as strict as he lays out).
--Re-invigoration of Mg intake efforts, (400-500mg orally, Mg Waller Water and Espom salt foot baths).
I have only had 1 episode in the last 20 months, and my ectopy is very minimal. That is pretty good for me, considering a 12 years history of about 80 episodes, and mostly persistent AFIB. (No Ablation)
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George, did you do research to determine what dosage of Vit K (complex) was right for you? That is way more than I am taking. " K as supplement: 25 mg of MK-4, 0.5 mg of MK-7, 5 mg of K1 and 2 mg of Astaxanthin. "
Also Jackie, or anyone else, how do we determine dosage for Vit K2? what would be good dose for the average Afibber? Lorraine is taking 360mcg. I may double my dose from 180 to 360mcg.
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George, did you do research to determine what dosage of Vit K (complex) was right for you? That is way more than I am taking. " K as supplement: 25 mg of MK-4, 0.5 mg of MK-7, 5 mg of K1 and 2 mg of Astaxanthin. "
Also Jackie, or anyone else, how do we determine dosage for Vit K2? what would be good dose for the average Afibber? .
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The Anti-Fib
Was this your idea, or did your Dr. initiate this?
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