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Herbert Mansmann
Dr. Herbert Mansmann Jr., Director of the Magenesium Research Lab,
who is a diabetic with congenital magnesium deficiency and severe peripheral
neuropathy, shares that he was able to reverse the neuropathy and nerve
degeneration with a year of using oral magnesium preparations at very
high doses. “For example it took me 6 tabs of each of the following every 4
hours, Maginex, MgOxide, Mag-Tab SR and Magonate to get in positive Mg
balance. I tell people this not to scare them, but to illustrate how much I needed
to saturate myself. Most will only need 10% of this amount. I was doing an
experiment on myself to see if it helped my diabetic neuropathy. It worked so I
did it for one year, and I have had significant nerve regeneration. I could
never have been able to do this with MgSO4 baths (Epsom Salt), since I could
not get into and out of a bath tub”
“I was saturated at about 3 grams of elemental Mg per day, but went to 20
grams for over a year. I now take 5 grams, and stools are semi-formed, and the
surrounding water is clear, 3-4 per day.” “Mg is very safe, since the gut
absorption is regulated by serum Mg levels, and then the Mg stays in the gut
and results in varying degrees of diarrhea. Then the dose is too high. Want soft
semi-formed stools. Mine, while on high dosages of magnesium were liquid
every 2-4 hours for 2 years, the electrolytes every month were normal, but for
low potassium, part of my urinary Mg wasting, both.”
Dr. Mansmann concludes, “I have had diabetic neuropathy (DN) for over 10
years. The most significant symptom is my neuropathic pain of burning feet,
called erythromelalgia (EM). With the aid of Mg I can completely suppress the
symptom, but if my blood glucose level is acutely elevated, because of a dietary
indiscretion, the pain flares in spite of an apparent adequate dose of Mg. It goes
away with extra Mg gluconate (Magonate) in an hour or so in either case.
Without the Mg it will last for six plus hours, even though the blood glucose
level is normal in about two hours.” “It is my belief that every one with
diabetes should be taking Mg supplementation to the point of one’s
Maximum Tolerated Dose, which is until one has soft-semi, formed stools.
In addition, anyone with neuropathy, without a known cause, must be
adequately evaluated for diabetes and especially those with poorly, slowly,
healing foot sores of any kind. Since the use of Mg is safe I see no reason that
this should not be “the standard of care”.
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Right now, I take 900 mg glycinate (450 bid) and sip the mg hydroxide (4gm), potasium citrate (4gm), taurine (4gm) and ribose (10g) in a gallon of water everyday.
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At the hospital 2 weeks ago when I had my ECV. - They didn't note anything to me. I also had electrolytes done in first week of May - everything in range.
I am going to see if I can get an Exatest ordered - and looking into Tikosyn when I talk to cardi this AM.
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George N, How did you get your RBC Mg up to 7? and how long did it take?
I have, but I need to take so much, it would be horribly expensive. It tastes like mag chloride to me, not sure if it is any different than just plain mag chloride and an extremely expensive form at that! So no, I don't use it.Quote
Did you use ReMag or some other form?
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Did you use transdermal? If so, in what form, how much, how long on the skin?
Mine is actually 7.5-7.9. I don't test frequently, but it is always in this range. I don't necessarily encourage keeping levels above 6.5. I've tried lowering my intake to get my level back down to 6.5, but I've gotten afib breakthroughs. I've posted about my coaching my 34 year old son-in-law with afib. He tested at 5.5 in January & we are trying to get his up in the 6-6.5 range.Quote
Are you maintaining it at 7?
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Have you had ablation/ablations?
No ongoing meds. I do use flecainide on demand if I go out of rhythm. I've been out of rhythm twice in the last two years, the last time was in January, 2019. I did have a 2.5 month episode in the first four months of my afib career in 2004, so that was not an auspicious start. One of the times I posted my story is here.Quote
on any meds?
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Did you say you NEVER had a problem with bowel intolerance, or did you develop an ability to hold on to it over time?
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Thanks for posting about your son in law. That is very encouraging.
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