You can check some of these past posts that discuss this topic. When I posted the "sticky, thick blood" post a while back, I was emphasizing the importance of doing the tests that determine elements that contribute to sticky, thick blood which can be influenced by the various nutrients mentioned in that post. The grounding or Earthing practice that Dr. Sinatra and the EMF groupsby Jackie - AFIBBERS FORUM
Jackie Wrote: ------------------------------------------------------- > It's also very important to know the current labs > on essential markers that determine the likelihood > to promote adverse clotting.... such as we mention > in discussions about sticky, thick blood which > include: > > Homocysteine > Fibrinogen > High Sensitivity or Cardiac C-reaby smackman - AFIBBERS FORUM
It's also very important to know the current labs on essential markers that determine the likelihood to promote adverse clotting.... such as we mention in discussions about sticky, thick blood which include: Homocysteine Fibrinogen High Sensitivity or Cardiac C-reactive protein Ferritin Hemoglobin A1C Lipoprotein (a) Interleukin – 6 Oxidized LDL Elevated homocysteine, aby Jackie - AFIBBERS FORUM
Good report, Nick. I feel the same way you do. Even on a half-dose Eliquis, I still feel sluggish and "off" although I do have a bit more energy and stamina so half dose (for me) is a huge improvement and most welcome. It's also a huge relief not to worry as much about the risk of a serious bleed. I've re-introduced at half doses the other natural blood thinners that keby Jackie - AFIBBERS FORUM
Hi Don - that's a good rant. It can help to consider that blood tends to clot in a variety of situations and not all people who have strokes and heart attacks have Afib. However, the condition that sets one up for either is the sticky, thick blood factor or hyperviscosity... (driven by inflammation) and when thick blood tries to pass through 'bottlenecks' in areas such as wheby Jackie - AFIBBERS FORUM
I agree, Researcher. We’ve long known that when hyperviscosity is present and with longer duration Afib, the risk of stroke increases. But, as is often so typical, medical research focus fails to investigate or emphasize the origins of health problems such as the multiple contributing factors that promote hyperviscosity; and just blame the Afib instead. Here on this forum, we’ve discusby Jackie - AFIBBERS FORUM
Ralph - Refer to the post on sticky, thick blood that talks about factors that influence hyper-viscosity. This goes beyond a CHADs score evaluation for stroke risk. If you have inflammation in the body or other factors mentioned in that post, it's important to have all of the relevant tests done to determine if your blood tends to be 'thick and sticky.' Using the fibrinolyby Jackie - AFIBBERS FORUM
Regarding posts and comments about on hydration, hypertension and others on blood viscosity and stroke risk, I’m reminding readers to go back to a recent thread on this topic. Also a important reminder is this following report, since hyperviscosity is always something that must be assessed and corrected to avoid the consequences of sticky, thick blood's tendency to form clots more quicklby Jackie - AFIBBERS FORUM
Shannon - thanks and good points. How about the hyperviscosity issue in these cases? I know a couple of long-standing, permanent afibbers who are still functionally living with the afib who are managing with anticoagulants but one is not. I'd think the tendency for strokes lies with the viscosity (thick, sticky blood) issue. Jackieby Jackie - AFIBBERS FORUM
Apache - that might be the case in instances where the blood viscosity, itself, was not conducive to clotting tendencies. Check my recent response to Mike F about sticky, thick blood and the risk of stroke or MI.. and the other related links provided. Also don't rule out age, itself. It's commented on frequently that age plays a significant role in stroke risk. Some say startiby Jackie - AFIBBERS FORUM
Hi Mike - I'll weigh in here with my personal experience...but don't take that to mean everyone can do or should the same. It worked out very well for me and I certainly tested the limits with my saga. My initial afib began at age 59. Once I started using flecainide for arrhythmia.. about 3 years after the onset and after first being prescribed sotalol which didn't work at alby Jackie - AFIBBERS FORUM
Thanks, J. That was helpful. Experienced a retinal tear last week, and have temporarily D/C'd the baby ASA. Will discuss anticoagulation again with the EP at my yearly eval next month. Have supplemented with D-3 for over two years. Will review your posts on "thick, sticky blood" and "natural" blood thinners now. You're a terrific resource! Very much aby LarryG - AFIBBERS FORUM
Larry - I can't clarify for sure which is the latest test... I thought it was the Cha2DS2VASc... which for me at my age would place me at 3 points... for age.. 79, female... and according to their translation guide that means: 3 points Stroke risk was 3.2% per year in >90,000 patients (the Swedish Atrial Fibrillation Cohort Study) and 5.9% risk of stroke/TIA/systemic embolism.by Jackie - AFIBBERS FORUM
amyorca... the Cardiac or High Sensitivity C-reactive Protein test is the best indicator of inflammation...( HS-CRP) is the test to request... and the other risk factors for "thick, sticky blood" are covered in this report: Sticky, thick blood - risk of stroke or MI September 06, 2012 Then go to this search result... and follow some of the posts regarding inflammation andby Jackie - AFIBBERS FORUM
..... "if you are otherwise healthy." Good point, Rob. On this topic, frequently not mentioned as a consideration for clotting risk are the factors that bring about the "thick, sticky blood" factor mentioned in many of my posts on that topic....with silent inflammation working behind the scenes to contribute initially to the hyperviscosity. Certainly, when prepariby Jackie - AFIBBERS FORUM
The risk of stroke caused by Afib is certainly a consideration at any age. However, the stroke factor depends primarily on blood viscosity which I like to call, ‘thick, sticky blood”… as mentioned in several posts on that topic, unless, of course there is compromised heart function, in which case it would not be diagnosed as “Lone” Atrial Fibrillation. When the heart is in afib, bloodby Jackie - AFIBBERS FORUM
In light of the very important current posts on the role of Magnesium in reversing Afib, this is a timely reminder to all readers (especially new readers) that stress is a major depleter of the essential mineral/electrolyte, magnesium. A post from last March, is a good reminder of how the stress response affects everyone and is especially relevant to those with Afib. It segues nicely into queby Jackie - AFIBBERS FORUM
Alex - Omega 3 fish oils reduce inflammation and therefore, CRP. With the Eliquis, you'll want to be cautious about not using the optimal dose of 4 - 6 grams a day...so it can take longer to lower the numbers... I'd try 2 - 3 grams. Vitamin E is useful as is extra supplementing with ascorbic acid (vitamin C) but not calcium ascorbate. I am partial to the liposomal form of vitaby Jackie - AFIBBERS FORUM
Thanks Jackie for your extremely prompt and very detailed reply. My fib is 2.0 g/L,sensi CRP 2.2/ mg/L,homocysteine 7 umol/L ,,ferritin 100 ng/mL I do ginger and regular turmeric but will,try the oil and the interleukin 6 test. Any tips for reducing CRP ? Thanks again Alexby alexe - AFIBBERS FORUM
Alex - Inflammation. The focus should be on markers of Silent Inflammation if you still have concerns. . Since you take the anticoagulant, it would still be important for you to know several other markers.... especially the High Sensitivity C-reactive Protein number as it is an indicator of inflammation along with the Homocysteine and Interleukin 6 which would not be affected by the anticby Jackie - AFIBBERS FORUM
Gentlefolk, I get ferritin,fibrinogen etc tests but how sticky is my blood after all the supplements plus low dose Eliquis I take ? No other medications. Comments on the prothrombin time (PT) test and whether it could be of value would be much appreciated. Thanks Alexby alexe - AFIBBERS FORUM
Alex - as mentioned in the previous posts on 'thick sticky blood'.... there are several "indicator" common tests that collectively offer some warning about conditions that contribute to blood hyperviscosity. Check out this post from 2014 that reviews the various common tests.... Jackieby Jackie - AFIBBERS FORUM
Alex – I found this link connecting Dr. Davis’ opinions on nattokinase and responses from his blog readers. This nattokinase/blog/thread was started in 2007…when perhaps Dr. Davis hadn’t been in the “awareness camp” for very long since Wheat Belly wasn’t published until 2011 and even then, he blunders and recommends the use of Splenda/sucralose (chlorinated compound) mixed with maltodextrinby Jackie - AFIBBERS FORUM
Alex - You asked about the potential between strontium and blood clots and there is support for that precaution...so as with so many things... consider age and stroke risk... plus whether you are monitoring all the markers that indicate a tendency for hyperviscosity or the thick, sticky blood we talk about. If your doctor prescribed it, ask about discontinuing it or at least get an opinionby Jackie - AFIBBERS FORUM
Erich - Medical practitioners who are oriented to a holistic or natural medicine approach to preventing cardiovascular disease are fully aware of how to test for and treat elevated markers that result in 'thick, sticky blood'... these would be Functional Medicine practitioners, Naturopaths, Integrative Medicine practitioners, Chiropractors and Anti-Aging specialists. You can also worby Jackie - AFIBBERS FORUM
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Alex - Dr. Sinatra has done informal tests with colleagues using 'Earthing' or Grounding to show the before and after effects on platelet aggregation.... I presume with live cell microscopy. In some of his online reports, he had provided photos of the platelet results. So, that's always a very viable option but it needs to be done daily. You can read more in the book, Eartby Jackie - AFIBBERS FORUM
Regardless of whether one has or had Afib, many factors affect brain health and function. Spend time at the website of Daniel Amen, PhD and note his findings using SPECT brain imaging scans… including the effects of various foods and chemicals on brain health and function. The blood viscosity and flow is one issue out of many detrimental influences for many younger people than in a range ofby Jackie - AFIBBERS FORUM
Travis - I wasn't specifically told to avoid supplements but I am aware that there are some that have blood thinning properties and I think you have to be mindful about adding known 'thinners'... such as Ginkgo biloba. Magneisum helps keep platelets from aggregating and I haven't lowered that dosing at all. In a recent thread on Omega 3's... if you didn't readby Jackie - AFIBBERS FORUM
Stef - a good start for this project is testing to determine what influences may be in play; that is, what would contribute to elevated blood viscosity that place us at risk for increased adverse clotting tendency. From the post about "thick-sticky blood"... This is the list for essential testing to monitor your risk factors Homocysteine Fibrinogen Ferritin High Sensitivity or Caby Jackie - AFIBBERS FORUM