Vitamin C Magnesium as citrate oxide or sulfate (milk of magnesia which may be sold as powder in Europe), epsom salt (in sufficient quantity most magnesium forms will work)by GeorgeN - AFIBBERS FORUM
Expanding my thoughts on Verma vs. Natale. With Verma, you are getting a very good EP. This should be good for your index (first) ablation, which may be all it takes. Natale normally reserves work on isolating the left atrial appendage (LAA) till ablation #2 as LAA isolation has a 60% risk of requiring lifetime anticoagulation or placement of a Watchman device (or similar) - LAA isolation isn&by GeorgeN - AFIBBERS FORUM
Hi Brian, First, on Verma. I've never had an ablation (and I live in the US), but have been on this board for 19.5 years, so am relating what I recall. Here is a search on the terms Verma ablation, so you can see what others have said. On flec vs ECV in the hospital. I've never had an ECV and I've used flec as PIP for 19 years. My use has generally been infrequent, but hby GeorgeN - AFIBBERS FORUM
Hi Brian, Does the afib happen during the exercise or after? I ask to see if your exercise trigger tends to be adrenergic or vagal (parasympathetic). For more description go to and click on "Are there different types of LAF?" Per Daisy's comment on flecainide on-demand, here is the original paper. Both flec and propafenone are used in this way. I've used flec this wby GeorgeN - AFIBBERS FORUM
QuoteLaDonna Hi everyone, I dont know id anyone else has heard something similar. But I thought that I recalled hearing how eating things like miso or fermented foods can have a negetive inmpact of afib? Has anyone else heard this? Thank you I've not heard this & I eat miso, kim chi & sauerkraut daily without issue.by GeorgeN - AFIBBERS FORUM
In this post are links to the full document, if wanted.by GeorgeN - AFIBBERS FORUM
Quotegloaming People who are moderators aren't doing it for their health. They do it out of duty and good will. Such people tend to be busy with other pressures on them. Busy people can be terse, perhaps sounding abrupt, and maybe they rub some people the wrong way with their tone, but they're still the same people of good will who want to help, not to injure, and not to turn away.by GeorgeN - AFIBBERS FORUM
Quotebettylou4488 So you get yours thru your the solution you make yourself yes? Yes. For me any magnesium works, as long as I consume enough. I've taken every form, including several I had to react myself to make (as in the acetate and bicarbonate forms). I did take the L-Threonate for a while, but it never did anything for me and was very expensive for the amount of magnesium in the cby GeorgeN - AFIBBERS FORUM
Nothing wrong with it. For others benefit, the elemental magnesium is 200 mg/serving. Looks like you get 20 servings in a box (I have a Fullscript login) The mg numbers listed in your post are the compound weights, not the weight of the magnesium. If it works for you, wonderful! As I take at least 4000 mg of magnesium/day, this would be a very expensive way to get it (I'd need to consumeby GeorgeN - AFIBBERS FORUM
QuoteJakeS Respectfully an allergy to iodine in x-ray contrast is a misapplied term and is a myth that dates back decades and unfortunately continues to be repeated by medical personnel and the public. The other myth that gets repeated is the correlation that shellfish allergy prevents having the x-ray contrast because that has iodine. It is practically physiologically impossible to have a "by GeorgeN - AFIBBERS FORUM
Quotewindyshores I do have some kidney failure, stage 3 A so not too bad. When that appeared in testing, I cut the low sodium V=8 in half. I wonder how much I shoud have at a time. Eight ounces is 860mg potassium. Serum potassium test range is 2.5-5.5 3.5 to 5.5 mEq/L. During my over 19 years here, most afibbers try to keep there serum levels between 4.0-5.0. The risk with poor kidney funby GeorgeN - AFIBBERS FORUM
Quotesusan.d Isn’t it in the same family as flecainide? I had to stop flec because I went into vtach and was told both drugs share similar properties. Yes, though chemically different and propafenone has beta blocking properties built in. Flec: C17H20F6N2O3 Propafenone: C21H27NO3by GeorgeN - AFIBBERS FORUM
Quotealfrae13 Does anyone have experience in Taking propafenone (Rythmol) to control afib Member Elizabeth (Liz) took it for many years, until it quit working. Here is a search on her posts on this topic: Others have mentioned it as well. Here is a search on this topic more generally: I have a local friend that used it for many years PIP (on demand). In the last year or two, he switchby GeorgeN - AFIBBERS FORUM
Quotewindyshores I get a lot of potassium from 8oz low sodium V-8 in the morning and 600mg magnesium (mixed types) at night. I just went two years without any afib, though I had a brief episode last summer from lifting. I had also tried cutting my potassium in half. I Have wondered if I should be spreading either out throughout the day. Certainly makes sense for potassium as with a bolus of potby GeorgeN - AFIBBERS FORUM
Interesting. His 120 mg of magnesium citrate is about 13 mg of magnesium. 1000 mg of potassium citrate is about 120 mg of potassium. Without the Dofetilide, for a long time, I've taken about 4000 mg of potassium as citriate (weight of compound is about 33,000 mg of potassium citrate) and ish around 4000 mg of magnesium as glycinate, malate and chloride (don't have the total weightby GeorgeN - AFIBBERS FORUM
Medscape summary: "The previous classification was largely based only on arrhythmia duration and tended to emphasize specific therapeutic interventions rather than a more holistic and multidisciplinary management approach, Joglar explained. The new proposed classification, using four stages, recognizes AF as a disease continuum that requires a variety of strategies at different stagesby GeorgeN - AFIBBERS FORUM
When I had a 2.5 month episode, 19 years ago, I pretty much did everything as normal. Now, most of my relatively infrequent episodes are converted pretty quickly with flecainide. I read long ago from an EP that being quiet after taking flec reduced flutter risk. As I don't use a beta blocker with it, I'm usually pretty quiet, buy conversion generally happens quickly. I have had afibby GeorgeN - AFIBBERS FORUM
QuoteTed S Thanks so much, George, for taking the time to provide those thoughts. I really appreciate it. Now to investigate “taping”… This is the tape I use. It is pretty inexpensive and works well for me. My 33 year old daughter uses 1" 3M Micropore tape, which is available almost anywhere. There are other specialty tapes. Some find a tiny strip vertically works well enough. I findby GeorgeN - AFIBBERS FORUM
QuoteTed S Basically, I’m fishing for insights/advice, here. Has anyone had a similar pattern where light to moderate exercise helped convert? My cardio’s PA seemed surprised when I told her that was a pattern that had been holding for me for multiple months. I had my first afib episodes in 2004, at age 49. For a few months I could convert them with exercise, then I had an episode that lasteby GeorgeN - AFIBBERS FORUM
Quotesldabrowski I take it daily. 50x twice a day. WT is 160. Thanks! I asked as my hypothesis is that the flutter risk is proportional to dose and frequency of use. 50 mg BID is a low dose. I've used flec, mostly as PIP for 19 years. I've searched, but have not found any studies on this. Likewise, I've never taken a BB. My initial PIP dose was 300 mg. I weighed 205#by GeorgeN - AFIBBERS FORUM
Quoteparkinsnip49 Has anyone here also had a fundoplication? I'm trying to navigate both conditions I've been a member since 2004 & this is the only member I recall posting about fundoplication and it was in 2008. He was an MD pediatrician. Here is the link: He got the fundoplication to help deal with his afib. I put this reply in your other post as well.by GeorgeN - AFIBBERS FORUM
Quoteparkinsnip49 Has anyone here also had a fundoplication? I'm trying to navigate both conditions I've been a member since 2004 & this is the only member I recall posting about fundoplication and it was in 2008. He was an MD pediatrician. Here is the link: He got the fundoplication to help deal with his afib.by GeorgeN - AFIBBERS FORUM
Quotesldabrowski If you had a risk of flutter, you would know at this point. I have been on Flecainide for 40 + years. Have had two ablations, Still on Flecainide and I do not take BB or Diltiazem at this point. I do keep a supply of Diltiazem just in case. Take losartan low dose for BP. I do not know of anyone or heard of anyone who has been on Flecainide as long as me. I would ask, after beingby GeorgeN - AFIBBERS FORUM
QuoteSteven I posted a sort of reply with an ECG in the "Kardia Mobile Interpretations". I thought latest activity would come to the first page of the forum. Sadly, our software doesn't do that. Threads are listed in the order of the date of the first post in the thread. I assume you are talking about this post. I agree with Carey. You could do the same thing of countingby GeorgeN - AFIBBERS FORUM
Yes, it is common and most return to normal, but it might take a year or more.by GeorgeN - AFIBBERS FORUM
QuoteDean This is a post from 15yrs ago by Lee who is a Pediatrician. He had the same trouble and ended up having a Nissan Fundoplication surgery to fix his GERD. It is a very informative post about his journey with GERD and afib. A friend just sent me this article on GERD. Germane to this conversation is this quote from it: "In another study, Curcumin (e.g., CuraMed® 750 mg 2x day)by GeorgeN - AFIBBERS FORUM
Quoteafhound99 I've felt some arrythmia for a few weeks so arranged for an EKG with my cardiologist here in Vero Beach, FL. The EKG showed some PVCs according to the physician's assistant who conducted the EKG. I'm due to get an echocardiogram and Holter harness attached next week. The EP who performed the ablation back in 2012 was Dr Barrett at Mass General in Boston. It was aby GeorgeN - AFIBBERS FORUM
QuoteMadeline Am I understanding correctly in that big long complicated recipe is for 1 L of water and something a person has to make every single day? When I make it, I double the recipe and make 2L at a time. Each liter of the concentrate contains 1.5 grams magnesium. Per the recipe, they suggest making 12 liters of dilute magnesium water from 1 L of concentrate. Each diluted liter wouldby GeorgeN - AFIBBERS FORUM
Quotebettylou4488 So making it yourself-- I was just reading the 'how to' paper. Seems easy but I don't mix well with fizzy waters of any kind. They blow up my stomach, and even trigger irregular heart beats. So maybe I have to stick with the supplements or maybe I am reading it incorrectly. Or does the shaking get rid of the fizzy mostly? I switched to glycerinate this week anby GeorgeN - AFIBBERS FORUM
QuoteMadeline That is interesting to know George, I hadn’t thought about magnesium having basic pH and i know you need stomach acid to digest your food. I take magnesium around lunch and a bit after dinner if not with it. The magnesium will burn my throat if I don’t eat something with it. The dilute magnesium bicarbonate solution (linked here) might avoid these issues. At its concentration, iby GeorgeN - AFIBBERS FORUM