QuoteCarey Drink? "In fact, while showering, your body absorbs 6 times the contaminants it does when you drink 8 glasses of water." Who or what are you quoting? Aquaoxfilters (Removes TTHMs (Trihalomethanes) Disclaimer...I have no idea whether they work, and have no intent to try them.by jpeters - AFIBBERS FORUM
Quotesmackman The water we drink this day and time has so many byproducts made from the chlorine used to disenfect the water such as THM’s(Trihalomethanes). These is BAD. Drink? "In fact, while showering, your body absorbs 6 times the contaminants it does when you drink 8 glasses of water."by jpeters - AFIBBERS FORUM
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QuoteElizabeth Says Warfarin can increase the risk of dementia, just throw a coin. Always good to read beyond the first sentence. Article notes that AFIB increases odds of getting dementia, so you need an AC. Warfarin doesn't work well if someone's INR is going in and out of the therapeutic zone. "Finally, in people that are on Warfarin in which the levels are erratic oby jpeters - AFIBBERS FORUM
QuoteCarey Stating the obvious maybe, but given the current scientific consensus that fibrosis comprises an at least significant component of atrial myopathy then I’m struggling to see how a Watchman could reverse fibrosis. It doesn't. It's simply that 90% of all clots that form in the left atrium form in the LAA. So if you close the LAA you eliminate 90% of ischemic strokes. The rby jpeters - AFIBBERS FORUM
Quoterocketritch Personally even at 45 I would be hesitant to go off the Eliquis. Or at that point would something like a daily aspirin be recommended? A 3.6 increase, unless maintained for a period of time seems a small amount to make such a decision. They didn't work in the dementia study, so obviously not stopping mini-clots to the brain.by jpeters - AFIBBERS FORUM
QuoteCarey Curious why getting a Watchman would cure all atrial myopathy. I wondered about this also when I read about the 60% decline (in dementia) for people on AC's with afib diagnoses, since one of the possibilities included comorbidity (mini strokes by clots coming from other veins, etc, vs just the atrium?). Particularly interested myself is I'm getting past the blanking period.by jpeters - AFIBBERS FORUM
QuoteCarey Because that's how the CHADS score is applied. I didn't create it. Not being in afib certainly lowers your stroke risk, but it turns out that people who have had afib in the past have an elevated stroke risk even if they're no longer in afib. It's observations like that have led doctors to start considering afib a symptom rather than a disease in its own righby jpeters - AFIBBERS FORUM
Quotesmackman Way over my head and I have a masters degree in Electro Technology Engineering and I am 60 with a lot of gray hair. Lol 😂 I could talk about coding, PLC, DCS etc. Let’s keep this to where we are helping most AFIBBERS not our impressive vocabulary whether you say it or quite it. I mean no malice. The terms oxidative stress, free radicals, chronic inflammation used in studby jpeters - AFIBBERS FORUM
Quotesmackman This is just my opinion and I mean nothing mean about it. Please write in layman’s English or do this type of discussion by Private Message. Even though I am well educated beyond High school, I have no idea what you are talking about. It’s not a forum to see who can be the most intellect with medical terms. This is basically a layman’s forum. IMO, This helps no one. Thankby jpeters - AFIBBERS FORUM
QuotePompon AC drugs reducing stroke risk for afibbers, it's not surprising at all they reduce the risk of dementia too. Several other possibities. Could just be confounding issue where people with cognitive difficulties are not given AC's, or that people with afib generally have comorbidities. Thus, just getting in rhythm might not be enough.by jpeters - AFIBBERS FORUM
"Among people with either prevalent or incident AF, use of anticoagulant drugs, but not antiplatelet treatment, was associated with a 60% decreased risk of dementia"by jpeters - AFIBBERS FORUM
QuoteJoe The other important step seems to be autophagy? Apoptosis is a normal process and isn't a problem as long as the body deals with it? From my understanding, time restricted eating and/or fasting does take care of that or at least facilitates the process of autophagy? Apoptosis and oxidative stress isn't great when it's connected with inflammation: " Chronic inflby jpeters - AFIBBERS FORUM
QuoteJackie Thanks Mike for that link. The mitochondria report I've been attempting to organize for posting here will address the myopathy topic as a symptom of underlying mitochondria dysfunction. I'm still working to condense to a readable form; otherwise, it might turn out to be book. I know you'll be interested. "Oxidation of cardiolipin reduces cytochrome c binby jpeters - AFIBBERS FORUM
QuoteCarey When Dr. Natale had me on 2.5 mg. of Eliquis twice/day, my cardiologist thought that low amount did little to nothing to protect me against a possible stroke, so she increased it to double that amount. Yet I see that some people are still taking that amount.... Your EP is wrong. Why would they make half-dose Eliquis if it did little to nothing? I would always stick with Dr. Natby jpeters - AFIBBERS FORUM
QuoteElizabeth Sure is weird, aspirin gets a bad rap yet Dr. Natalie says to take it for life, head-scratcher. L I wonder what Boston Scientific says about it. I don't think they can afford yet another fiasco.by jpeters - AFIBBERS FORUM
QuoteCarey They recommend that I continue the aspirin for life, but I think that's more out of sense of "we have to do something" rather than being truly necessary. I thought they said previously that wasn't necessary.by jpeters - AFIBBERS FORUM
QuoteCarey I said they apply to most people and that is true. Won't help if I die of a stroke that an NOAC didn't remove. Problem is myriad circumstances and what my question is, If I want to measure length of time to remove an existing clot , for example, important variables might be paroxysmal vs persistent, length of time prior to diagnosis, size and density of clot, norby jpeters - AFIBBERS FORUM
QuoteElizabeth My platelet count is at the very low end or a couple of numbers below the lab scales so not as low as that article is talking about. Doctors have never been concerned, but could cause problems if taking anticoagulants. Apparently thrombocytopenia can be triggered by other medications besides anticoagulents.by jpeters - AFIBBERS FORUM
QuoteCarey Folks, this anecdotal warfarin vs. NOACs stuff is useless. Some drugs work for some people and they don't work for others. Warfarin is a perfectly reasonable choice if it works for you. NOACs are a completely reasonable choice if one of them works for you. I've tried to supply the facts on what the pros and cons are for both of them based on clinical studies involving thousaby jpeters - AFIBBERS FORUM
QuoteElizabeth It is said on here that an anticoagulant doesn't cause bleeding, I just can't understand that statement because it happens all the time. You're right. More rare than just slowing clotting, but can happen. I stand corrected on that one. " When you don't have enough platelets in your blood, your body can't form clots. A low platelet count may alby jpeters - AFIBBERS FORUM
QuoteElizabeth Wasn't safe for me, I got bloodshot eyes and when just exerting a little pressure upon opening a door, my thumb had a sack of blood. After quitting Coumadin two weeks later I got a nose bleed and coughed up some blood clots. Glad it works for you. Yeah, I remember you posting this before. Were you on long enough to get an initial INR? Either something unique with yourby jpeters - AFIBBERS FORUM
QuoteJackie jpeters…From your research, do you know if the plant source for warfarin/Coumadin is the same plant, Murraya paniculata, that has been used experimentally in the study of cancer metastatic chemo-preventive materials? Don't think so, since "Murraya paniculata is a tropical, evergreen plant native to Southeast Asia and China." Warfarin comes from sweet cloverby jpeters - AFIBBERS FORUM
QuoteCarey The discussion was about strokes after cardioversion even though the patient was on Xarelto. Just had my INR test. Same place it was 8 weeks ago, and 8 weeks prior to that. For some, it's a big deal. What's? a big deal? People have had strokes following cardioversion despite being on warfarin too. The NOACs work as well as warfarin, have lower bleed risk, fewer side eby jpeters - AFIBBERS FORUM
Quotesmackman Okay, It’s time to move on. This discussion is simply a choice for most AFIB patients. For me and my EP and local Cardiologist, I will stay with Eliquis or one of the newer NOAC’s. If someone cannot afford this option or just feels Coumadin is a better option, take it and all the labs that come with it. The discussion was about strokes after cardioversion even though the patiby jpeters - AFIBBERS FORUM
Just attended a workshop on this subject today, showing the link between the brain and gut via the vagus nerve. Breathing techniques activate vagal stretch receptors in the lung and airways, easing tension.by jpeters - AFIBBERS FORUM
Quotesmackman 👍 Just gotta be smart. 100% agree with Carey. Also, Is it true that Coumadin is a form of Rat poison that was formerly used to kill Rats? Just asking......, Yes, sweet clover. If you're a rat, better stick with Eliquis.by jpeters - AFIBBERS FORUM
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QuoteCarey I'm guessing it's getting subsidized somewhere, given listed prices. No, you just need to know where to buy drugs that are ridiculously overpriced in the US because Congress refuses to control drug prices like every other country on earth does. I recommend Never had to. Just picked up 3 month supplies of Coreg and Warfarin for $9.04. Good idea, though, for pricey mby jpeters - AFIBBERS FORUM
QuoteCarey With TEE's. How much do you pay for it, maybe only $445.53? Obviously it's not practical to undergo TEEs routinely. Regardless, people on warfarin with their INR well within range still have strokes. None of the anticoagulants provide 100% protection. I've paid nothing at all for Eliquis the last two years. My insurance carriers (Cigna in 2017, Aetna in 2018by jpeters - AFIBBERS FORUM