This is great to know that the method works on multiple people. Hope I don't have to use it, but it afib happens again, I'll try.by kong2018 - AFIBBERS FORUM
George, This is very interesting. Would you think converting by exercising shares the same mechanism as holding breath? I converted by exercising for the last two espies, the first episode I ran really hard then converted after stopping for about 1 minute. The 2nd episode, I ran really hard again, but didn't convert, then after resting for a few minutes, I ran again but with a muby kong2018 - AFIBBERS FORUM
QuoteCarey I tested holding my breath for one and half minutes until I felt really really uncomfortable but the SPO2 would only drop to 94%. Now I know how severe 80% is. And now you know the likely cause of your afib as well. But the two nights I got afib while wearing the O2 sensor, it doesn't how a very low SPO2 level before the onset. Both nights were only down to about 88%. But tby kong2018 - AFIBBERS FORUM
QuotePompon I bought an O2 sensor (this ), and wore it nightly. It's been about two months now. Occasionally I found my SPO2 would drop to as low as 80% during sleeping. Most of time dropped to about 88%. But interestingly, even when I lay in bed awake, the SPO2 could drop to 92% and trigger the vibration alert. Then I could normally do a few deep breaths to bring up the SPO2 level. If I wby kong2018 - AFIBBERS FORUM
Quotemwcf What Carey says. 80% is waaay low. Do all of your AF episodes occur at night?? Yes, only and exclusively at night while I was sleeping. Woke me up every time. However I was able to terminate the last two episodes by exercising. As I tested, my afib doesn’t react to any food or activity I do in daytime. But if I felt too relax before fall asleep that was the time afib happened.by kong2018 - AFIBBERS FORUM
I bought an O2 sensor (this ), and wore it nightly. It's been about two months now. Occasionally I found my SPO2 would drop to as low as 80% during sleeping. Most of time dropped to about 88%. But interestingly, even when I lay in bed awake, the SPO2 could drop to 92% and trigger the vibration alert. Then I could normally do a few deep breaths to bring up the SPO2 level. If I wear it for couby kong2018 - AFIBBERS FORUM
Thanks everyone that gave your information in above. Really appreciate all your answers! Seems like I can try exercising without worrying too much should it happen again. You guys are like lighthouses that guiding the newbies in the dark. Awesome! Thank you!by kong2018 - AFIBBERS FORUM
In the last episode, I tried exercising to convert. So I ran really hard and heart rate shot up to 228. Kind of scary but I didn't feel anything, no dizzy, no tiredness, no short of breath but just feeling the heart bouncing around. Then I rested for a few minutes and did a slower running which converted me in about one minute. The question is, could the fast heart rate brought up by hard exby kong2018 - AFIBBERS FORUM
Yea. One thing I should be thankful is mine is vagal afib. So I can run and do whatever I want like before without worrying it would trigger afib. Night time is still a bit tough though.by kong2018 - AFIBBERS FORUM
Quotewolfpack The elimination of panic is Step #1. That should be the goal of any support group, forum and, yes, even healthcare providers! I agree with you. But when I expressed hopeless, frustration, anxiety, depression and fear about afib, I got slapped by some people who may have dealt with afib for too long that have forgotten about the initial emotions and been dismissive. Most dby kong2018 - AFIBBERS FORUM
That’s like me. About three hours into sleep. Mine never happened when I am awake and not ever triggered by any food. It could be vagal or caused by other things like other people said.by kong2018 - AFIBBERS FORUM
I agree with George. In my last few episodes, I either had extreme emotional stress or physical stress th bday before the onset. The episodes didn’t happen while I was experiencing the stress but when I was sleeping at night. I think when i am awake, my brain is doing its job to regulate heart rate and nerves. Then when I go into sleep, without intervention from the brain, the autonomous nerves gby kong2018 - AFIBBERS FORUM
Would ablation work on vagal afib just as the same?by kong2018 - AFIBBERS FORUM
Karen, I'm 10 years younger than you. I got afib all in a sudden last August. While knowing there's no cure for such condition and feeling frustrated, I'm finding all abnormalities in my body and correcting them in the hope of kicking afib away. Many people would jump right into ablation or will eventually get an ablation after a period of try and fail. I'm working hard toby kong2018 - AFIBBERS FORUM
Thank you Shannon for the detail explanation. Looks like the better option is to switch plan.by kong2018 - AFIBBERS FORUM
Anyone using Kaiser and can get them refer to Dr Natale? How can you do it?by kong2018 - AFIBBERS FORUM
Looks like everyone mentions Dr Natale had a great success in ablation. I wonder if I should expect to be afib free for at least quite a few years if done by Natale? Down the road I think going to him is the only solution.by kong2018 - AFIBBERS FORUM
Hi Billy, sorry to heart your struggle. So you got your first afib at age 37...I got mine at 36 when having multiple stressful events and anxiety. Through your post I can kind of seeing my not so bright future. I’m sure someone is going to advise you to get an ablation with Dr Natale. But well, you’ll need to get proper insurance first... I jut wanted to know how was your quality of life in tby kong2018 - AFIBBERS FORUM
How did your ablation go? Hope it was smooth and successful.by kong2018 - AFIBBERS FORUM
I ordered it the first day it became available and have been using it since then. For the band itself, it’s exactly an AliveCor on your wrist. It comes handy because you don’t need to carry an extra device. But if the continuous monitoring is your goal, the band is not mandatory. As long as you have the Kardia app in the watch and have the premium subscription, you can activate the smart rhythm fby kong2018 - AFIBBERS FORUM
Hi Jackie, I had never taken fluvoxamine. I went to a psychiatrist follow up and he suggested me try fluvoxamine to control my constant anxiety and maybe depression. But I think it’s better to do some research before starting a new med.by kong2018 - AFIBBERS FORUM
Looks like EP is not sure about the increase risk of bleeding, and psychiatrist not sure about anticoagulant, and pharmacist agrees there's increase risk of bleeding but said listen to your doctor... Any one taking fluvoxamine with anticoagulant? Any problem?by kong2018 - AFIBBERS FORUM
QuoteGill So basically we have no way out but suffer from it for life. That's plain simple and brutal. No so. As I have told you before, I have had over 15 years of normal rhythm since ablation. For me AF is a thing of the past, and if it ever returns I shall be back in Bordeaux as fast as they can take me. Gill Thanks for assuring!by kong2018 - AFIBBERS FORUM
So basically we have no way out but suffer from it for life. That's plain simple and brutal.by kong2018 - AFIBBERS FORUM
I've only taken flecainide for two times in the last two episodes, it didn't shorten the time of my episodes, so I don't even know if I should take it again.by kong2018 - AFIBBERS FORUM
So glad to see these positive results. Should I consider Natale's ablation as, at least partially, curative? I've had six episodes, though all happened when sleeping, they are stressing me out. So if I can get a few years worry free of afib, it will be priceless as these are the years my kids are young.by kong2018 - AFIBBERS FORUM
Thanks! I think I'd better not take flecainide on the plane then. Just hope I won't get an episode while traveling especially on the plane. It's so much impact on daily life!by kong2018 - AFIBBERS FORUM
What's the longest NSR after Dr Natale's ablation you've ever heard/known about?by kong2018 - AFIBBERS FORUM
QuoteCarey Thanks for the info.....I've only done that at my EPs direction for 15 of 20 years. And he failed to ever mention that. It's a rare side effect, but a very serious one. It's kind of odd. Some EPs are fanatical about including a beta blocker with flecainide for that reason, while others don't bother at all. Having experienced flutter with 1:1 conduction, which iby kong2018 - AFIBBERS FORUM
Thank you everyone for providing very valuable ideas. I agree with Jackie that even finding the root cause may or may not do anything to afib, by correcting any abnormalities in the body will be beneficial for afib and overall health. Steve, how old were you when you first started afib?by kong2018 - AFIBBERS FORUM