Sure is! We need to know what causes all these problems. The vaccine does cause our body to make spike proteins. Is it the spike protein or a combination of proteins etc. in order to address it because the vaccines don't prevent being infected?by Joe - GENERAL HEALTH FORUM
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QuoteCarey Conspiracy alert: Except one other thing, those placebos are constructed to cause sickness, not a benign saline solution as you believe. Conspiracy alert is right. Produce a reliable citation to support that claim or I'm calling BS. Citation for claim that the Covid vaccine placebos are not always just saline and are sometimes designed to make you feel crappy: "by PoetKim - GENERAL HEALTH FORUM
QuoteLSulka Shannon, what about strong ginger tea? I use it as an anti-inflammatory. I have an auto-immune condition that sets of my Afib and am concerned about the COVID vaccine. Waiting for more documented side effects to be recorded, etc. Strong ginger tea will have absolutely no effect on the COVID vaccine. The two are perfectly fine together. And there's no reason to suspect the vaby Carey - GENERAL HEALTH FORUM
I originally thought a dose of prednisone and Benadryl would help prevent a reaction. I’m allergic to CatScan contrast and was given this combo beforehand each time. Same with chemo everyone had a dose. I read one of the future vaccines still in testing may require premedication Carey you are right. Subject shifted from epi which I would never take. I just had a dental appointment yesterdaby susan.d - GENERAL HEALTH FORUM
Quotesusan.d Good to know. Thanks. In that case I’ll just risk an over zealous nurse from giving me an epi pen if my reaction returns the second time. If given epi, I speculate I run the risk of getting af. I said nothing about epi. Epi is totally different from steroids in that it has no effect on the immune system. If you want to bring your own EpiPen that's up to you, but why spend moneby Carey - GENERAL HEALTH FORUM
He didn’t go from 60 straight to 30mg. He ramped down 10mg a week and took the vaccine Sunday while on 20mg for two days. Today he will reduce to 10mg a day and by the time he stops next Friday and gets the second dose in 3 weeks 3 days the half life of the prednisone would be gone. Hopefully he will get partial benefits from the second dose. Moderna vaccine after the first dose to those over 65by susan.d - GENERAL HEALTH FORUM
The recommendation to moderate your steroids one has on-board on the day of, just prior, and right after a vaccination for a couple days, is meant primarily for larger anti-inflammatory level steroid doses which also bring with it the likelihood of more immune system suppression from larger on-going steroid doses. The drop in dose of prednisone mentioned above from 60mg a day (that's a prby Shannon - GENERAL HEALTH FORUM
Good to know. Thanks. In that case I’ll just risk an over zealous nurse from giving me an epi pen if my reaction returns the second time. If given epi, I speculate I run the risk of getting af. If someone is currently taking prednisone for a condition, does that mean it was useless to get vaccinated? We did ask a doctor whether if he should get vaccinated or not. His doctor mentioned it wasn’by susan.d - GENERAL HEALTH FORUM
If you get it at a medical venue they have epi available for you-see above link). I believe you need a rx to get an epi pen. If you don’t have allergies how will you get a pen? I got a mild reaction immediately. A dr and a nurse were called over and triaged me. They examined my mouth (not swollen), pulse (was 60-not high) and took my BP. A low BP I was told is a symptom. Mine was 182. Theyby susan.d - GENERAL HEALTH FORUM
They're going to have one or the other, not both. But I'm curious why you feel the need to post a warning like this. Did you post similar warnings about other new-ish vaccines like pneumonia and shingles?by Carey - GENERAL HEALTH FORUM
Well I was able to find a moderna vaccine for phase A tier 3 so all is good. I know a lot of people in California unable to get vaccinated. I sort of feel perhaps they may benefit if Pfizer and moderna quickly develops a new vaccine to include the UK, S African and Brazilian strains by the time they get vaccinated. Unfortunately more strains may mutate and instead of two doses we will have to getby susan.d - GENERAL HEALTH FORUM
Prisons, group homes, homeless shelters -- all these places are major incubators for respiratory diseases like COVID due to the close quarters. Let COVID get going in places like that and they'll become major super-spreader sources in the community. It may not seem fair to inoculate people like prisoners first, but it makes perfect sense and will be more effective at reducing your chanceby Carey - GENERAL HEALTH FORUM
QuoteCarey Did Hank Aaron die because of getting the vaccination? No, and that's not what the article says. People aren't dying from the vaccines. There have been a tiny number of anaphylactic reactions, which is entirely expected for any vaccine. That's why they have you wait 15 minutes after receiving it. With competent medical care available an anaphylactic reaction can bby susan.d - GENERAL HEALTH FORUM
QuoteElizabeth Did Hank Aaron die because of getting the vaccination? No, and that's not what the article says. People aren't dying from the vaccines. There have been a tiny number of anaphylactic reactions, which is entirely expected for any vaccine. That's why they have you wait 15 minutes after receiving it. With competent medical care available an anaphylactic reaction can bby Carey - GENERAL HEALTH FORUM
This is my (Shannon's) reply to Susan's initial thread-starting post from above, regarding what was a temporary pause ... not an actual recall ... in Moderna vaccinations using only Lot # 041L20A over the last week and that has since, over the last few days, been fully lifted by California Health authorities in charge of COVID-19 vaccine distribution. The initial reporting noted thatby Shannon - GENERAL HEALTH FORUM
Thank you Joe! I never heard of Math+ protocol. It’s worth printing up and keeping handy. Another concern with moderna is transportation temperature control to keep the vaccine’s potency from deteriorating. I googled Pfizer and didn’t find anything. Another question is should someone on prednisone take the vaccine? A GI doctor yesterday said there were no studies during the trial of resby susan.d - GENERAL HEALTH FORUM
Don't know but given a choice i'd go for Novavax or Johnson and Johnson if/when the stage III trails pan out; bearing in mind that the other vaccines are still on emergency release as well. Wonder why nobody on popular media (and in the Pharma releases) mentions absolute effectiveness and NNT (number needed to treat). Obviously you are not a fan of the iMATH+ or FLCC alliance recommenby Joe - GENERAL HEALTH FORUM
Quotewolfpack I think a lot of this misses the point that vaccination is superior to medication. Vaccine is prevention. Medication is treatment. To put it this way, it’s awesome that water puts out fire. But isn’t it better not to start the fire? Both fluvoxamine and ivermectin work 100%* as a prophylaxis although the dose and schedule for iVM is under debate. The vaccines (I am not antby NotLyingAboutMyAfib - GENERAL HEALTH FORUM
Here is a question- why aren’t we vaccinated already? The homeless, prisoners, and those workers at McDonalds will have priority over those >65 with health issues. Hospitals are at capacity and are triaging a wait list. Other countries are giving out more vaccines.by susan.d - GENERAL HEALTH FORUM
Wolfpack. It isn’t my wish. I want the vaccine. My healthy son got his, they are giving them out in the east coast, Texas and other states but here in CA it’s not available to high risk, over 75 etc. I read cancer survivors not currently on chemo or stem therapy with a healthy immune system should be on a priority list. “Patients with underlying conditions at high risk for complicationsby susan.d - GENERAL HEALTH FORUM
Quotesusan.d I don’t see how self contained prisoners should get it before honest law abiding citizens. There is a state prison near where some friends live. It is in a rural area. A few weeks ago, ~40% were positive. Problem is the guards can get it, too. Then go home and give it to their families and friends. The area was relatively "clean" then the prison blew up and the wholeby GeorgeN - GENERAL HEALTH FORUM
Teachers, judges, lawyers, food services, homeless and those in prison will get their vaccine before the general population.. teachers should get it I agree to protect children....I don’t see how self contained prisoners should get it before honest law abiding citizens.by susan.d - GENERAL HEALTH FORUM
Elon Musk essential worker too.by NotLyingAboutMyAfib - GENERAL HEALTH FORUM
If you are 1b (75 and older) If you live nearby I thought it’s worth sharing. I’m waiting for 1c to be available but I have to compete in California with homeless, prisoners and lawyers and judges...believe it or not.by susan.d - GENERAL HEALTH FORUM
I see an increase in undisciplined arrogance in our society here in the US, including sadly in the healthcare field. Nurse says "Everyone will be getting Covid? What about the Vaccines?by The Anti-Fib - GENERAL HEALTH FORUM
Vaccine finder:by susan.d - GENERAL HEALTH FORUM
Side effects of elevated HR? On a lighter note- there is one person who doesn’t need the vaccine. :-)by susan.d - GENERAL HEALTH FORUM
QuoteTodd I wonder if anybody is thinking about side effects to newborns when child bearing age women get the vaccines? Right! Or those elderly with health issues. Warp speed rush it through so I wonder how many testing the vaccine were not young in perfect health? I speculate they had guidelines on selection to get a quick approval. I’m looking forward to reading more about those in the UK whoby susan.d - GENERAL HEALTH FORUM
I wonder if anybody is thinking about side effects to newborns when child bearing age women get the vaccines?by Todd - GENERAL HEALTH FORUM