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Thanks Van i totally get it. Back during my afib days i used propafanone as pip. Worked alot but not always. And! Im not sure its effective in flutter cases?? I do realize this may not hold. If it doesnt i guess my only hope will be eliquis and rate control til i get to Austin cause doing another cardioversion would be dumb My past cardioversions have always held long periods but im in differeby Poppino - AFIBBERS FORUM
Dr Holshouser s office just called. 10:30 arrival 12 noon cardioversion I just wanna get back to Austin! So after this we ll see how long i hold. Then when i go into flutter again i ll contact Trent And Shannon to see what the protocol is. By then the Zio will be back to Dr Nataleby Poppino - AFIBBERS FORUM
My EPs office has yet to schedule me for ecv. They quized me yesterday on eliquis use. Prior to Natale i use 2/5s then on 7/7 he canceled procedure. I used none on 7/8 7/9 in nsr. I was nsr may 20 thru july 9 but took eliquis. So on 7-10 i resumed as i went into flutter. Ive done 10 mg since Sat thru today. This am 5mg. How could i have a clot. Ive been cardioverted 11 times in 16 yrs. once inby Poppino - AFIBBERS FORUM
Yes Carey i missed 2 days of eliquis. Last thur and fri as id been nsr all june. Then on sat night i restarted as i went into flutter at midnight. So 1 tgen sun thru wed 2/5s today 1/5 at 8 am. Rate 115 until i take diltalizem. So only missed 2 days well after 3 months of 3/29 ablation. Ive been nsr may 20 thru july 10 but took eliquis anyway. Plus cod liver oil plus olive oil plus daily exerciby Poppino - AFIBBERS FORUM
Idk ive never done that. My ep is asking what missed doses of eliquis ive had. 2 days after Austin while in nsr. When flutter started I restarted eliquis Sat sun mon tues todayby Poppino - AFIBBERS FORUM
4 days after returning from Austin where Dr Natale said the wait and see approach is best right now a family death in Chicago happened Saturday, he was special needs 30 yrs old. 4 hrs later i went into Flutter. Confirmed monday on ekg. Im now in day 4 at 115-120 and portal messaged my EP for a Th or Fri cardioversion. Im anticoagulated Ive tried everything i know. Wife in Chicago for funeral yeby Poppino - AFIBBERS FORUM
Great news Genie. Happy for you!by Poppino - AFIBBERS FORUM
Awesome news Genie! Wow so are you off eliquis or not yet? What is site seal as opposed to the collagen plugs? I had a sony walkman! That was early 80s techology!! At its best. They strapped to your upper arm. Yellow So glad it went well!! Tomby Poppino - AFIBBERS FORUM
Just a great thankyou to Shannon for calling me last evening talking me off the cliff and speaking to my wife. Im in hour 36ish of 110-115 not the worst but just an incessant horror Im wearing zio patch til tomorrow and trying everything. Mag water ubiquinol diltalizem coconut water liquid mag but it’s unstoppable. Natale looked at my Kardia saying looks like sinus tach. Ive begged my EP here foby Poppino - AFIBBERS FORUM
I do 200-300 per day spread out with food. Hey! Now im in tachycardia as of 14 hrs ago Tomby Poppino - AFIBBERS FORUM
I have a beta blocker and i have diltalizem i guess ill wait to see what the rythm is. You are correct im not super high right now Just 110-125. Susan did your ablation work? Or not Tby Poppino - AFIBBERS FORUM
3 days upon returning from Austin Dr Natale felt id not been in high rate since May so took the wait and see approach. Last night i went to 120-25 This morning after rate meds 116. So now i have no idea what to do. Im wearing the zio patch. I sent at midnight a Kardia to Trent at Natale s office Will i now have to wait months again??? I was just there Tues talking to him. So frustrating. I wby Poppino - AFIBBERS FORUM
As Carey said: what are the 3 BP meds???? My guess is there in lies your issues of tired weak lethargic Taking propafanone every day??? Ummm why not pip approach. If you add propafanone to the 3 that might not be good? Tby Poppino - AFIBBERS FORUM
Awesome!!! Im no one to talk lol but try and be calm positive and strong. I still think your 6/29 ablation is so fresh that youre having these episodes. They may very well calm down or become farther apart and shorter. Water!!!! Magnesium!!!! Ubiquinol!!! Hope you can rest. Try and get your mind on good happy things. Im beginning to work on my own anxieties! We can do it! Tomby Poppino - AFIBBERS FORUM
Ok then you musta never had right flutter Maybe they can get a fresh ekg while in the bad rythm Do you have Kardia? The ekg will confirm afib or by chance flutter Flutter is a regular rythm unlike the erratic afib And usually fast and not likely to convert spontaneouslyby Poppino - AFIBBERS FORUM
Ok well you could be in flutter or afib to flutter then back. Morphing. Not uncommon. Did they ablate right side flutter? If not could be that but i had many afib episodes not irregular so who knows. Your EP needs to get involved!by Poppino - AFIBBERS FORUM
Yes you re going thru hell and hate it for you. But June 29 not very long ago so it’s possible that your irritated heart is just adjusting while healing. Metropolol will not convert you Only slow rate. I guess it might help but they should give you an anti arrhythmic for a month. Has your EP suggested it? Ask! Propafanone or flecanide are the 2 most common I understand the depression but thisby Poppino - AFIBBERS FORUM
I sincerely doubt you have any heart damage from a few afib days My best guess: amioderone. Why you were given that is beyond me. Ive never taken it and never will Its to my knowledge a last resort drug. They could have just cardioverted you. Find an EP. not ! A primary Dr. were i you id get on magnesium some good coq10 and some vg oils Begin to educate yourself. Amioderone and Digoxin sp? Aby Poppino - AFIBBERS FORUM
Genie we ll miss it too. We re already back in Charlotte Best to you tomorrow!!! I loved Natale. Now i get it Tby Poppino - AFIBBERS FORUM
Susan i hope too your heart calms. After my appt yesterday i lost my temper as my uber app wouldnt work etc. then my HR 98. All afternoon i was up and down. This morning headed home and im 67. Like Carey told me and my poor wife. I need to work on anxiety and trigger emotions. Im gonna seek some advice as they say Tby Poppino - AFIBBERS FORUM
My consult with the wonderful Dr Natale was today at 11 am. What happened isnt a total surprise. He called OFF my procedure for tomorrow. My last high rate episode was May 21. 7 weeks post ablation. Since i have daily rate jumps in RHR. 68 to 90. For seconds to minutes. He says these are vagal in origin. That my vagal nerve was irritated and that he s seen it before. It could take 6-12 months toby Poppino - AFIBBERS FORUM
Much appreciation Jackie!by Poppino - AFIBBERS FORUM
Im very familiar with Bloomington and IU. My entire family originated from Martinsville my Grandfather was the mayor 1950-54 I sure hope you click back to nsr. But yes youre good for quite a while when anticoagulated. So take solice in that. I ordered a magnesium called Angstrom Magnesium Its liquid. I take that some along with mag gly. Its on Amazon. We ve all been where you are! It ll end. Sby Poppino - AFIBBERS FORUM
Well 100-110 is better. Your EP has to have someone on call. Being protected by eliquis buys you time Im not the one to say how long. Waiting is an anxiety creating scenario but in reality you probably can wait a long time Tomorrow is monday. In 2008’i was left in afib 5 days! No eliquis then. Cardioverted after a TEE. If its not converted then get on the phone. If you need peace of mind thenby Poppino - AFIBBERS FORUM
Ive had so many episodes that strike on a fri or even out of town. Wife and i went to Asheville last yr Air BB awesome! Went to breakfast first morning; boom! 145. We left and drove home. I walked up our stairs and converted We drove back the next day 2.5 hrs You ll be ok. On eliquis. Someone must be on call! ER just gonna rate control you with diltalizem iv. I still think you ll convert Letsby Poppino - AFIBBERS FORUM
Afib right flutter ablated 2012. 8.5 vg yrs. atypical flutter reared its ugly head and got worse. Cardioverted 3/5. Ablation 3/29. 5-6 good weeks. Week 7-8 flutter for 8 days non stop NSR day 8 then HR of 55-59. Stuck! Would not go higher. Id used diltalizem & propananol during the 8 days. After 5 days heart broke free. More normal but a lower rhr. 62ish. May 25 4 hr episode at 181. Late maby Poppino - AFIBBERS FORUM
Juggsy right. Too early. You are fresh in the trauma dept. call the office and ask what you should take. Need a rate control should it not terminate which i bet it does. We all have our own hell stories The one thing i do now is drown myself with water and use alot of mag. All day! Every day Tomby Poppino - AFIBBERS FORUM
The ppi is linked to headaches and dizziness. Look it up. I use drug forums to see what other people report Google the drug name and the word forum. One or more will pop up. Like i said carafate my ppi about destroyed me Once i stopped it the dizziness ended. I had trouble walking a straight line After a number of weeks if your esophagus was injured youd know it i think. In 2012 my EP said 5-7by Poppino - AFIBBERS FORUM
After my 3/29 ablation i was asked to use Carafate. For esophagus. Horrbile. Was dizzy wobbly weak I begged to go off. They said use 1/2. So after 2-3 weeks i quit it The obvious are: whats your BP running? Whats your RHR running? And like Carey asked: what else are you using? Tby Poppino - AFIBBERS FORUM