Hi Hans,
Sorry for the long delay in answering your questions but my life is chaotic at the moment with work issues, preparing to sell my house, buy house and move up the coast for a sea change into semi retirement.
You asked the following questions re candida:
I am most interested in your statement that Bacillus Subtilis eats the candida fungus. As you know candidiasis is a huge and growing health problem and if eating natto food 5 times a week is the solution I am sure many people, and not only afibbers, would happily start gulping down the stuff.
I have two questions on this:
1. Is the fact that natto kills candida a personal observation or do you have any references to clinical trials or epidemiological studies that describes this?
2. How much natto do you now consume per day?
Discussion:
With your connections Hans, it would be interesting to see if you could do further research into the link between B. Subtillis and afib/candida. There are B. Subtillis supplements available and Israel and Germany seem to use them the most. Gernmany and Japan did a lot of promising research into B. Subtillis during WWII era but it was scrapped and shelved in favour of the emerging antibiotics. You could have a B. Subtillis supplement available in your online supplement store. It would be very interesting to see the results of a B. Subtillis supplement on afibbers. You have to do careful research though as most B. Subtillis supplements contain other unwanted bacillus species that can cause problems. You need to find a pure B. Subtillis supplement. The million dollar question is will they mimic my excellent results using natto food? As you know, I have tried to get afibbers to try natto food over the last 4 yrs but it just hasnt happened (lazy sods). I still remain a highly successful experiment of one. Maybe using a supplement of B. Subtillis is the answer? Its definitely easier to consume than natto food. This would make a good conference topic on afibbers. Over to you.
Answers to question one:
This is from the US Environmental Protection Authority and is amongst the best info on B. Subtilis I have come across - well worth reading the entire article. I have also added the bit about B. Subtilis producing a mild toxin called subtilisin. This is probably what caused an allergic reaction in George N when he was eating natto and who posts frequently on the board.
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www.epa.gov]
B. subtilis has been shown to produce a wide variety of antibacterial and antifungal compounds (Katz and Demain, 1977; Korzybski et al., 1978). It produces novel antibiotics such as difficidin and oxydifficidin that have activity against a wide spectrum of aerobic and anaerobic bacteria (Zimmerman et al., 1987) as well as more common antibiotics such as bacitracin, bacillin, and bacillomycin B (Parry et al., 1983). The use of B. subtilis as a biocontrol agent of fungal plant pathogens is being investigated because of the effects of antifungal compounds on Monilinia fructicola (McKeen et al., 1986), Aspergillus flavus and A. parasiticus (Kimura and Hirano, 1988), and Rhizoctonia (Loeffler et al., 1986).
B. subtilis does produce an extracellular toxin known as subtilisin. Although subtilisin has very low toxigenic properties (Gill, 1982), this proteinaceous compound is capable of causing allergic reactions in individuals who are repeatedly exposed to it (Edberg, 1991). Sensitization of workers to subtilisin may be a problem in fermentation facilities where exposure to high concentration of this compound may occur. Exposure limits to subtilisin are regulated by Occupational Safety and Health Administration (OSHA) (29 CFR 1900, et seq.)
Dont know how good the research is with this website article below and their trying to sell B. Subtilis supplements so caution is needed. SBO below stands for soil born organisms (B.Subtilis). If some of the research is correct then it makes B. Subtilis a very interesting bacterium:
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www.sbocritters.com]
Function #4: The SBOs are extremely aggressive against pathological molds,
yeast, fungi, and viruses. They quickly engulf and ingest harmful microbes such
as Candida albicans, Candida parapsilosis, Penicillium frequens, Penicillium
notatum, Mucor racemosus, Aspergillus niger and many others, which would
otherwise infect the body and cause serious illness and even chronic
degenerative disease. In eliminating pathogenic microbes, the SBOs end up
allowing the over-worked immune system to rest and gain strength.
My other research papers for B. Subtilis and natto food:
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www.explorepub.com]
Immunostimulation by Bacillus Subtilis
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www.springerlink.com]
Natto food is a strong natural ACE inhibitor
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aac.asm.org]
Anti helicobacter pylori activity of B. Subtilis
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circres.ahajournals.org]
Phytoestrogen Genistein in the natto food affecting cardiac ion channels and holding cardiac chloride ion channels in the open position very technical article
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www.nutritiondata.com]#>
nutrition facts for natto food
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www.gaia21.net]
A compilation of easy to read general information collected on natto food from internet articles
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www.naturalnews.com]
You could also add the phytoestrogen, red clover to partner the B. Subtilis supplement to closer mimic the natto food properties.
There is also the large quantity of Vitamin K2 produced by B. Subtilis but Jackie has covered the K2 topic in great depth so wont go into it here.
Answers to question two:
This is my organic natto brand. Note that I do not ever eat the seasoning sauce (loaded with MSG):
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www.ichibajunction.com.au]
I have now been eating natto food for 4 years and afib free for 6 years. I eat 50gms organic natto (1 container) no less than 5 times a week. The organic natto soy beans are two thirds the size of the standard GM natto and is better tasting (if thats possible with natto). I have a rule where I NEVER GO MORE THAN 2 DAYS NOT EATING NATTO. I have experimented by stopping natto altogether but pacs/pvcs go from a couple a day (when eating natto) to hundreds after 5 or 6 days I have never gone beyond 9 days without natto as I fear a breakthrough afib attack. After 3 days back eating the natto the ectopics subside back to normal of only a couple a day.
Hope this helps your research into the B. Subtilis / natto food / candida and afib link
Dean in Sydney
