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Afib + Stroke risk

Posted by TomR 
Afib + Stroke risk
February 02, 2025 06:19AM
Dr Sanjay Gupta @ York Cardiology brings his argument (first 10 minutes) why afib is not a cause of stroke in this video.

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Re: Afib + Stroke risk
February 02, 2025 12:10PM
Well known respected doctor.

I see his colleague when I am in NY . He specializes in afib and strokes and talked me into taking Eliquis when I turned 67.

Dr G potentially could be opening himself up to malpractice if a patient gets a stroke. Malpractice insurance premiums are on a rise.

I think a stroke is something one would want to prevent, even if it means taking Eliquis or a watchman as insurance against living life as a handicapped stroke patient- IMHO
Re: Afib + Stroke risk
February 02, 2025 12:35PM
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TomR
Dr Sanjay Gupta @ York Cardiology brings his argument (first 10 minutes) why afib is not a cause of stroke in this video.

Over the years I've reviewed the studies that were used to develop the CHA₂DS₂-VASc scoring system and its predecessors. I've come to the same conclusions as Dr. Gupta. I've always worked very hard to keep my controllable factors in that system in line.

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susan.d
Well known respected doctor.

Susan, the Sanjay Gupta in the video is a cardiologist in the UK. I believe you are referring to the one who is a neurosurgeon and a CNN medical correspondent.

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Dr G potentially could be opening himself up to malpractice if a patient gets a stroke.
My interpretation of what Dr. Gupta is recommending is that everyone with an elevated CHA₂DS₂-VASc score should be on anti-coagulants, whether they have afib or not.



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Re: Afib + Stroke risk
February 02, 2025 09:55PM
My bad. You are right George.

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GeorgeN

Dr Sanjay Gupta @ York Cardiology brings his argument (first 10 minutes) why afib is not a cause of stroke in this video.


Over the years I've reviewed the studies that were used to develop the CHA₂DS₂-VASc scoring system and its predecessors. I've come to the same conclusions as Dr. Gupta. I've always worked very hard to keep my controllable factors in that system in line.


Well known respected doctor.


Susan, the Sanjay Gupta in the video is a cardiologist in the UK. I believe you are referring to the one who is a neurosurgeon and a CNN medical correspondent.

Dr G potentially could be opening himself up to malpractice if a patient gets a stroke.
My interpretation of what Dr. Gupta is recommending is that everyone with an elevated CHA₂DS₂-VASc score should be on anti-coagulants, whether they have afib or not.
Re: Afib + Stroke risk
February 02, 2025 11:56PM
I got AF in 1996, it was only a few times a year for a number of years, which was around 19 years, I took no blood thinners during that time. About a year and a half ago I got a stroke, I am on a blood thinner now, my stroke was not too severe, it hit my right arm/leg but I can use them quite well and my mind is OK. I believe one of the reasons for the stroke was I was working outside cutting my grass, I have a lot to cut and it was hot, I was sweating and didn't drink any water during that time (3 hours), it hit me when I was almost finished. I am now 91 years of age and my heart probably was a little high during that time that I was working cutting my lawn. I do tend to have some high BP at times. So, read into this what you think, I do eat well, I have a big garden, fruit trees and I can and freeze a lot, so that could have saved me as well.

Liz
Re: Afib + Stroke risk
February 03, 2025 04:12AM
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Elizabeth
I got AF in 1996, it was only a few times a year for a number of years, which was around 19 years, I took no blood thinners during that time. About a year and a half ago I got a stroke, I am on a blood thinner now, my stroke was not too severe, it hit my right arm/leg but I can use them quite well and my mind is OK. I believe one of the reasons for the stroke was I was working outside cutting my grass, I have a lot to cut and it was hot, I was sweating and didn't drink any water during that time (3 hours), it hit me when I was almost finished. I am now 91 years of age and my heart probably was a little high during that time that I was working cutting my lawn. I do tend to have some high BP at times. So, read into this what you think, I do eat well, I have a big garden, fruit trees and I can and freeze a lot, so that could have saved me as well.

Liz
Thanks for sharing your experience, i understand that dehydration can cause the blood to thicken and the kidneys to work harder so this may have contributed to the stroke, which fortunately for you (and us on the forum !) was not severe. I admire your ambition which is indeed encouraging for a young spirited person of 91. Obviously, your mind is still ok, if not super !
Re: Afib + Stroke risk
February 03, 2025 11:55PM
I have to correct something in my post, I went into permanent AF about 3years before my stroke and was on a blood thinner during that time. So I was on a blood thinner when I had my stroke, I started taking a blood thinner when I went into permanent AF, before that I did not take any blood thinner.
Re: Afib + Stroke risk
February 04, 2025 06:36PM
OK thanks for your clarification. However, 91 and still putting around on a lawn mower and having gone off instead of on blood thinners is still very remarkable.
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