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Celery juice and coconut juice.

Posted by Goldensnortman 
Celery juice and coconut juice.
January 31, 2025 12:23AM
Drinking Coconut water and Celery juice with lemon.
I heard Coconut water was good for bringing up my electrolytes. Also is it ok to drink Celery juice with lemon
When you have Afib?
Trying to get on course with a healthy diet.

Thanks for having me.
Re: Celery juice and coconut juice.
January 31, 2025 01:52AM
Coconut water has potassium, some other stuff, and of course sugar. IF....IF....you know for a fact that you're skirting around the edges of being low on potassium, I can't see anything wrong with drinking up to two cups of it a day. This also assumes your kidneys are healthy and that they can eliminate any overages you ingest or imbibe. Just so you know, potatoes and beets are other sources, and most people get enough potassium if they eat a variety of fresh foods.

I have read, not sure if it's gospel, that celery and cucumber are 'filler' vegetables, not much to offer us. I have also read that celery can be among the most contaminated vegetables for pesticides, but that was a few years ago. A word to the wise if it's still the case.

I have consumed a lot of celery, cucumber, and beets, and coconut water in the past several years. It didn't stop me from being low (apparently) on potassium when I went to the ER while fibrillating one time...they gave me two large tablets and told me I was low. Surprised me. But they obviously thought that my AF might have been exacerbated, if not caused, by low potassium.

There are experienced people here who swear by supplemental magnesium. Have you had your RBC done for magnesium? Many N. Americans run low on that element. It's widely available in various formulations, and it's not expensive. The most popular formulations are bis-glycinate and citrate. I'm currently working on a large blue bottle of the malate formulation. No difference that I can detect. They're all just salts anyway.
Re: Celery juice and coconut juice.
January 31, 2025 03:32AM
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gloaming
I have consumed a lot of celery, cucumber, and beets, and coconut water in the past several years. It didn't stop me from being low (apparently) on potassium when I went to the ER while fibrillating one time...they gave me two large tablets and told me I was low. Surprised me. But they obviously thought that my AF might have been exacerbated, if not caused, by low potassium.

When I had my initial afib episode, I was, in today's language, eating a no added oil whole foods plant based diet. When I went for my only ever ER trip for afib, my serum potassium was something like 2.8 mEq/L (the bottom end of normal is 3.5 mEq/L and most afibbers want theirs north of 4.0). The ER folk gave me a potassium chloride horse pill & I converted a little while later.

A few months later, it was this test, as well as an intracellular electrolyte test (EXATEST) that included magnesium (below range as well) that started me on the path of electrolyte supplementation that I continue to this day, 20+ years later.



Edited 1 time(s). Last edit at 01/31/2025 05:23PM by GeorgeN.
Re: Celery juice and coconut juice.
January 31, 2025 05:11AM
FYI. Coconut water is the only sterile plant liquid. In war camps during WW2, they used it as IV.

I spent 28 days once only drinking coconut water and clear fat strained chicken broth because I had a major GI blockage with only a few mm opening and I wanted my guts to cease swelling up from a GI disease I have. I had my GI doctor’s permission after discharge. In the hospital I was only on IV for 3 weeks. It wasn’t ideal nutrition wise but I saved myself multiple GI surgeries. Before this diet I had 3 surgeries.

Yesterday I was discharged from the ER with my second killer of a nosebleed in three days where they cauterized my cut inside my nose 3 times, didn’t work so the ENT did another 3 times and stuffed my nose with a nose tampon which I have no clue how it will dissolve. I vomited around 2 pints of blood. This happened after taking my 5mg Eliquis.

Yesterday I had a coconut water diet until 4pm. It has a lot of unfortunate sugar but I’m still nauseous and I didn’t want another hemorrhage if I start vomiting.

My EP wants my potassium at 4,5. I take potassium Rx.
Re: Celery juice and coconut juice.
February 12, 2025 03:23PM
Hi Gleaming
I have to express my disagreement that Mg are all just salts. That statement implies to me that they have equivalency and that isn’t the case. First several human and animal studies comparing absorption clearly demonstrate differences, the worse in general are inorganic salts like Mg hydrixyzie, Mg sulfate, Mg boxide. Because they are poorly absorbed they remain in the gut and by osmosis attract water from intestinal cells and reflect their super laxative effect. Organic salts appear to have better absorption. A second point is the elemental Mg content in a compound. Mg ++ is the moiety that has biologic benefit. Exp if Mg glycinate cap size is 300 mg, the Mg** percent is around 10% per capsule so in that hypothetical one capsule provides only 30 mg of Mg ++ and unfortunately labeling may imply one capsule provides 300 mg of. Mg.**
Lastly the time of action and capability of maintaining stable blood Mg levels is important in maximizing biological Mg++ benefits. The latter occurs with some slow release formulations but rarely do Mg product companies publish the pharmacokinetic data needed to know these facts.These are important issues when selecting Mg supplements and in my opinion explains why oral Mg supplentation remains an area of great confusion and exhibits inconsistent benefits. I hope these comments are not viewed as didactic and presumptuous of all knowledge about Mg but the market is populated with misleading labels and claims and many are not manufactured under cGMP that standardize contents and dosage. The adage ‘buyer beware’ is very applicable when purchasing oral Mg supplements.
Re: Celery juice and coconut juice.
February 12, 2025 08:27PM
Thanks for your comprehensive feedback. I'm just going by what a pharmacist told me. I do know that some formulations are thought to benefit the brain more, or that other formulations might help sleep, supposedly, but when I asked the pharmacist about these differences, he replied, 'They're just magnesium salts, so whatever works for you, and is the least costly, I would use that.' I do appreciate that some formulations might have higher bioavailability, and that could be a consideration for some cases. If one were to ask me which formulation she should take, I would reply that the literature says the common 'citrate' formulation has the highest uptake, but also the highest propensity to increase motility in an undesired way.
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