The benefits of marine omega-3s for preventing arrhythmias July 15, 2023 05:36PM |
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Attached the full paper
You forgot something.
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Research showing excess marine O3 increases AF risk July 18, 2023 07:16PM |
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What to believe?
[pubmed.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov]
In RCTs examining cardiovascular outcomes, marine ɷ-3 supplementation was associated with an increased risk of AF. The risk appeared to be greater in trials testing >1 g/d.
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We found a U-shaped association between consumption of marine n-3 PUFA and risk of incident AF, with the lowest risk close to the median intake of total marine n-3 PUFA (0.63 g/day).
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I just wanted to make a comment on study n2, the last at the bottom. Quintile n.5, the group who took the more marine omega 3 and had more Afib episodes, also took more alcohol and it was the group who also had the higher blood pressure, unless I'm not reading the study properly.
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I just wanted to make a comment on study n2, the last at the bottom. Quintile n.5, the group who took the more marine omega 3 and had more Afib episodes, also took more alcohol and it was the group who also had the higher blood pressure, unless I'm not reading the study properly.
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In the study, they said they adjusted for BP & alcohol.
Here are my issues:
1. The basis of the study was a food frequency questionnaire (FFQ). The accuracy of these are always suspect, IMO. Also using the output of an FFQ to project over long periods of time is very questionable, again IMO.
2. Most of the fish oil came from fish, not supplements per the data.
3. If the confidence interval of a relative risk crosses 1.0, then it did not reach statistical significance. Only Q3 did this (note it's P of 0.02 is the only P < 0.05).
4. The relative risks (RR) weren't very different. Note that Q5 (group with the highest fish oil consumption) had a RR of 1.06 or 1.05 depending on the model. Meaning a 5 or 6% increase from the base group (though 18 or 19% more compared to Q3).
Here are the relative risks prepared by the models:
[i.ibb.co]
So I wouldn't put much stock in the study.
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Another view - [www.afibbers.org]
Pavan, an administrative thought. Why start a new thread? I say this as when you do, it pushes an older topic off the first page and out of view. Just post it as a reply in this thread would be my suggestion.
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I also want to point out that, I believe nobody knows, what would be the mechanism of which fish oil could cause afib. After all, real food is also safer than food supplements. However, fatty fish such as salmon, are full of mercury.
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I also want to point out that, I believe nobody knows, what would be the mechanism of which fish oil could cause afib. After all, real food is also safer than food supplements. However, fatty fish such as salmon, are full of mercury.
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Nope.
Fresh wild caught salmon is one of the LOWEST of commercial fish, You'd have to eat 53lbs a week to be at risk.
Tuna has 31X the mercury of salmon.
[www.fda.gov]
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Not one vegetable you will find in a grocery store has less than 60 known carcinogens.
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