Strophanthin July 12, 2022 11:52PM |
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Re: Strophanthin July 13, 2022 09:07AM |
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susan.d
My gosh! Used in historic period in Africa as an arrow poison. I can see why you might be interested as a cardiac remedy
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BUT it’s so dangerous!! It’s a rat poison. They tested it on rats.
Re: Strophanthin July 13, 2022 09:20PM |
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By a German doctor being interviewed on a Swiss channel. Unfortunately it's in German. The doctor had a heart attack in his early 40s and is still going strong at mid 70 with a special interest in Strophantin. Apparently it was used many years ago but has fallen out of favour/use - i'm not quite sure why but suspect it might be because of the critical dosing required or better safer drugs since? Of course, no money in promoting it either if one looks at it cynically.Quote
Carey
Claimed by who? Where? Never heard of it before but a quick googling suggests it's a rather dangerous substance.
Re: Strophanthin July 14, 2022 02:32AM |
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Claimed by who? Where? Never heard of it before but a quick googling suggests it's a rather dangerous substance.
By a German doctor being interviewed on a Swiss channel. Unfortunately it's in German. The doctor had a heart attack in his early 40s and is still going strong at mid 70 with a special interest in Strophantin. Apparently it was used many years ago but has fallen out of favour/use - i'm not quite sure why but suspect it might be because of the critical dosing required or better safer drugs since? Of course, no money in promoting it either if one looks at it cynically.
It's important that he mentioned it's effect on helping AF only in passing.
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Re: Strophanthin July 14, 2022 05:21PM |
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Joe
. I'd be better off consulting with an AI algorithm if there were one available.
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Joe
Given that AF is due to cardiomyopathy and Strophanthin is said to improve cardiac circulation
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Re: Strophanthin July 18, 2022 07:55PM |
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Mechanism of Action
Primarily, diltiazem inhibits the inflow of calcium ions into the cardiac, smooth muscle during depolarization. Reduced intracellular calcium concentrations equate to increased smooth muscle relaxation resulting in arterial vasodilation and, therefore, decreased blood pressure.27 Aug 2021
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Not exactly. AF is thought to be due to atrial myopathy, which isn't the same thing as cardiomyopathy and may not be caused by the same factors. Specifically, unlike the ventricles, it may not be due to circulatory issues at all but more likely atrial stretch and fibrosis. So improving cardiac circulation may not be helpful.
It would really help if you would point us to the sources that make these claims that it improves "certain types" of AF, and what's meant by "certain types."
Re: Strophanthin July 18, 2022 08:06PM |
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Joe
After my aprx 4 month of permanent AF in 2015 i was told that my left atrium was very large. After a year or so of being in NSR and having another US i was told that my left atrium was almost back to normal. At the beginning of this year i had an US and was told (after specifically asking) that my atrium was only slightly larger than normal. No mention of fibrosis (possibly not visible on an US?).
Still, even if i have fibrosis - why is it that I only at certain times (meeting certain parameters?) i go into Af? Got to have to do with cellular condition and or intracellular environment, or perhaps an imbalance of my nervous system? Why else would cardizem work for Susan the way it does? Or Flec with me - it also modifies polarisation and/or depolarisation of the atrium's (and other?) cells?
Carey, hope you don't get frustrated with my uninformed rambling, it certainly is not my intension to do so.
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