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I'm amazed at the number of people I know that have it afib. Also many who are diagnosed have no idea how to tell if they are in afib. I saw a friend at a party. He mentioned he had afib and was looking at getting a Watchman device (never had an ablation). I asked him if he was in afib at that moment. He replied no. I asked if I could feel his pulse. Sure enough he was in afib. I have a sense that the numbers may be higher than shown. I randomly got into a conversation with a commuter train passenger from Portland OR. He'd had 3 failed ablation and a full MAZE!
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katesshadow
This thread made me think of a question I have.
When a doctor and patient decide to leave the patient in "permanent" Afib, doesn't that cause heart damage (failure? ) since your heart is not working efficiently?
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Probably the size of the atria (enlarged) and the amount of fibrosis (scarring) in them. 20 years of LSPAF will create a lot of electrical remodeling.
I could imagine that over time a patient could become used to the rhythm and not be so symptomatic. It is a quality of life issue.
I think we all react similarly to initial AF episodes. I was also dizzy and short of breath the first few times. After a few months I stopped reacting to it at all. I once documented AF at an average ventricular rate of 55 without any betas at all. So the adrenaline response was gone at that point. I knew the episodes would stop so I just waited. I even biked and ran. My wife got mad at me once because I dusted her on the bike in AF. Now there's support for you!
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Rate control drugs barely put a dent in my standard 150 BPM afb routine. I was dizzy, out of breath and ultimately had ejection fraction ('EF') of 25% and heart failure diagnosis, by the way at 40 yrs. old.
No F'in way you could keep me in afib permanently without calling it what it would be, a slow early death sentence sitting on the couch doing nothing.
Cardiologists that say ablations don't work and doom people to a life of AFIB really get me steamed. Go see Dr. Natale and put all these hypothetical questions to rest.
I sit here today drug free with an EF of 65% living life again. This from being a young man about to apply for disability and give up on life. Don't become accustomed to anything you can fix.
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Rate control drugs barely put a dent in my standard 150 BPM afb routine.
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I've read numerous times that Afib itself is not dangerous, but the fear factor is still there for me.
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wolfpack
I've read numerous times that Afib itself is not dangerous, but the fear factor is still there for me.
That’s normal.
I went into AF 3 years post ablation out of the blue while running. Weirdest thing I’d ever experienced. It wasn’t the least bit uncomfortable and I didn’t even stop running. So that kind of killed the fear factor for me. I still get ectopics from time to time while exercising. I live in the US Southeast and it is humid as you know what. We call it swamp-*ss. I just run through them and they go away. I replenish electrolytes religiously.
This AF thing has a lot to do with mind over body. Hang in there.
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Carey
Rate control drugs barely put a dent in my standard 150 BPM afb routine.
That sounds like flutter. 150 is a really common flutter rate and flutter is often resistant to rate control drugs. Flutter and afib often go hand in hand. Mine did. The afib would trigger the flutter and vice versa.
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Elizabeth
Why do all of these docs do Ablations when they can't fix the problem, surely if Natalie can do it why isn't there doctors studying his methods so whatever they are doing wrong can be changed.
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Why do all of these docs do Ablations when they can't fix the problem, surely if Natalie can do it why isn't there doctors studying his methods so whatever they are doing wrong can be changed.
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Elizabeth
Why do all of these docs do Ablations when they can't fix the problem, surely if Natalie can do it why isn't there doctors studying his methods so whatever they are doing wrong can be changed.
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Liz
Why do all of these docs do Ablations when they can't fix the problem, surely if Natalie can do it why isn't there doctors studying his methods so whatever they are doing wrong can be changed.
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My understanding is that it’s not a question of which methods they are using. Ablation is an extremely difficult procedure, and it takes many hundreds of them before an EP becomes even moderately proficient. So doctors at the beginning of their learning curve are eager to do as many as possible, which means they are practising on their patients, and have low success rates. The EPs who have done thousands are really good at it so have high success rates.
In addition to all that, some EPs have a special gift, or a feel for what they are doing, and become maestros with the catheters. A bit like some musicians - the great guitarist, Segovia, said of his pupil John Williams, "God has laid a finger on his brow". Same thing with Dr Natale, Prof. Haïssaguerre and a few others.
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I saw one particular EP here in the UK 18 months ago and when I mentioned Natale he said, and I quote “hah; that cowboy!’ I was not impressed to say the least.