Intro and my AF experience pre and post ablation September 10, 2018 02:51PM |
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I went to several seminars and studied ablation online and was convinced cryoablation was right for me – the uniform contact around the pulmonary vein made more sense to me than 50-100 individual burns which seemed more likely to result in reconnection.
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Re: Intro and my AF experience pre and post ablation September 11, 2018 01:52AM |
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Hongo felt that lines were more susceptable to breakthroughs than points over the long term.
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Hongo felt that lines were more susceptable to breakthroughs than points over the long term.
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Hongo felt that lines were more susceptable to breakthroughs than points over the long term.
Natale agrees, which is why he makes lines, not points. Experienced, well-trained ablationists make lines with RF.
What cryo can't do is anything other than isolate the pulmonary veins. That makes it effective for simple cases, which apparently comprise about 65%, but if there are sources outside the PVs then RF is the only way to fix them, and that's apparently about 35% of patients.
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Hongo felt that lines were more susceptable to breakthroughs than points over the long term.
Natale agrees, which is why he makes lines, not points. Experienced, well-trained ablationists make lines with RF.
What cryo can't do is anything other than isolate the pulmonary veins. That makes it effective for simple cases, which apparently comprise about 65%, but if there are sources outside the PVs then RF is the only way to fix them, and that's apparently about 35% of patients.
You’ve lost me there. So Hongo feels lines are more susceptible to breakthroughs (as in PV reconnection presumably) than points and Natale agrees but does lines?!
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Re: Intro and my AF experience pre and post ablation September 12, 2018 12:11AM |
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Carey
Think he may be referring to dragging technique, which is different then cyro.
That's exactly what I'm referring to. Natale makes lines with RF. It's not unique to cryo. Cryo just makes it easier and faster at the expense of being rather limited in where it can make lines.
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Experienced, well-trained ablationists make lines with RF.
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And by implication are all ablationists who don't make lines inexperienced and inadequately trained??
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So do Natale and DiBiasi use point-by-point as well as lines or just lines?
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