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‘RF Balloon Ablation’ now being trialled. April 30, 2018 04:29PM |
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Re: ‘RF Balloon Ablation’ now being trialled. April 30, 2018 09:06PM |
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Joe
Like the video at the end. NZ man uses electric fence to get back to NSR! Lucky he didn't have any clots hanging about.
Re: ‘RF Balloon Ablation’ now being trialled. April 30, 2018 09:18PM |
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Re: ‘RF Balloon Ablation’ now being trialled. May 01, 2018 02:56AM |
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Re: ‘RF Balloon Ablation’ now being trialled. May 01, 2018 05:39AM |
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Pompon
I think all those improvements on ablation techniques are fantastic, but they only relieve the symptoms of AF.
Re: ‘RF Balloon Ablation’ now being trialled. May 01, 2018 05:51AM |
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Carey
Like the video at the end. NZ man uses electric fence to get back to NSR! Lucky he didn't have any clots hanging about.
I have a friend who has afib. A few years back he was headed to the hospital for a cardioversion. When he touched the door to the hospital that was supposed to open automatically, it apparently had a short and shocked him. To his surprise, he suddenly realized that he was back in NSR. The shock had cardioverted him. So he just turned around and went back home.
I've taken a few jolts of 120 VAC accidentally in my life and it's not all that bad. Obviously not recommended, but truth is I considered trying it myself more than once. Don't think I'd even consider it in Europe with 240 VAC, though.
Re: ‘RF Balloon Ablation’ now being trialled. May 01, 2018 07:52AM |
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mwcf
That said, whilst a successful ablation stops AF from happening, it doesn't 'cure' the underlying reasons - whether genetic or lifestyle - why the AF was happening in the first place.
Re: ‘RF Balloon Ablation’ now being trialled. May 01, 2018 10:40AM |
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The Anti-Fib
How would this be done?
Re: ‘RF Balloon Ablation’ now being trialled. May 01, 2018 10:43AM |
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Re: ‘RF Balloon Ablation’ now being trialled. May 01, 2018 01:45PM |
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Carey
I think all those improvements on ablation techniques are fantastic, but they only relieve the symptoms of AF.
Only?
Re: ‘RF Balloon Ablation’ now being trialled. May 01, 2018 03:23PM |
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Pompon
For me, it's the truth. I've still afib, with lighter symptoms.
And, no, ablation does not cure afib. But I reckon relieving the symptoms is great work and the best that can be done as long as afib can't be cured.
Re: ‘RF Balloon Ablation’ now being trialled. May 01, 2018 03:30PM |
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wolfpack
My guess as to how a DC cardioversion machine works is that it charges a capacitor (hence DC) to a voltage such that E = 1/2*C*V^2 (100 J, 150 J or whatever they set it to). The voltage needed to establish the energy would depend on the size of the capacitor (C) in the machine (I have no idea what that might be, but fair to guess it's big, so V isn't so big that we're crisping people's skin). Then it dumps that charge into the patient rather instantaneously during a refractory period of the cardiac cycle.
Re: ‘RF Balloon Ablation’ now being trialled. May 01, 2018 04:40PM |
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Re: ‘RF Balloon Ablation’ now being trialled. May 01, 2018 08:38PM |
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mwcf
(Since no-one wants to talk about RF balloon ablation)
Re: ‘RF Balloon Ablation’ now being trialled. May 01, 2018 09:43PM |
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GeorgeN
This may be helpful for the guys who are less skilled (not that it wouldn't help the top tier guys), however my take is that it isn't helpful beyond a standard PVI.
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Again, my take is pick the best EP you can and let him/her choose the equipment.
Re: ‘RF Balloon Ablation’ now being trialled. May 02, 2018 12:42AM |
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Joe
Like the video at the end. NZ man uses electric fence to get back to NSR! Lucky he didn't have any clots hanging about.
Re: ‘RF Balloon Ablation’ now being trialled. May 02, 2018 03:54AM |
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Re: ‘RF Balloon Ablation’ now being trialled. May 02, 2018 03:14PM |
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jpeters
I went through no fewer than five unsuccessful ablations over the last 7 years, so I absolutely understand your viewpoint.
I'm curious how many ablations the heart can sustain, and what happens after that? Thanks
Re: ‘RF Balloon Ablation’ now being trialled. May 02, 2018 04:37PM |
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mwcf
I guess that after enough ablations the atria can't even sustain AF! But one will lose some if not all of the 'atrial kick' that contributes some 20% of the pumping of a normal heart beat.
But no AF IS no AF: 80% normal heartbeat is arguably way better - and definitely less symptomatic - than a heartbeat in AF.
Re: ‘RF Balloon Ablation’ now being trialled. May 02, 2018 09:31PM |
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Carey
Suffice it to say that if you need more than two, you're probably not dealing with a competent ablationist.
Re: ‘RF Balloon Ablation’ now being trialled. May 03, 2018 08:54AM |
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