Another nail in the coffin of the caffeine myth April 16, 2018 09:42PM |
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“There is a public perception, often based on anecdotal experience, that caffeine is a common acute trigger for heart rhythm problems,” said Peter Kistler, MBBS, PhD, director of electrophysiology at Alfred Hospital and Baker Heart and Diabetes Institute, and the review’s lead author. “Our extensive review of the medical literature suggests this is not the case.”
Re: Another nail in the coffin of the caffeine myth April 17, 2018 04:11AM |
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Another nail in the coffin of the caffeine myth April 17, 2018 10:14PM |
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Re: Another nail in the coffin of the caffeine myth April 18, 2018 01:36PM |
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up to 25 percent of patients report coffee as an AFib trigger.
People report all sorts of things as triggers based on a single correlation in time. I don't believe data based on self-reporting of triggers is valid.
Re: Another nail in the coffin of the caffeine myth April 18, 2018 02:28PM |
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Re: Another nail in the coffin of the caffeine myth April 18, 2018 07:48PM |
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Maybe, but we're all unique experiments of one and if repeated exposure to something consistently gives one more PACs/AF, then whatever it is IS a trigger for that person.
Re: Another nail in the coffin of the caffeine myth April 18, 2018 10:25PM |
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So I don't encourage people to look for triggers. I think it's largely a snipe hunt.
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Re: Another nail in the coffin of the caffeine myth April 19, 2018 02:52PM |
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George, you do realize that the average person cannot or will not follow regimes like you do and rigorously identify triggers, right?
Re: Another nail in the coffin of the caffeine myth April 19, 2018 02:53PM |
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(...) I spent years looking for triggers just like everyone else, and when I identified a possible trigger I would actually test it. For example, I became convinced at one point that MSG was a trigger for me. So I went to the store, bought some MSG, and went home and drank a glass of water with a full tablespoon of MSG dissolved in it (a huge dose). Absolutely nothing happened, so MSG was ruled out as a trigger. I did similarly with everything I suspected, and one by one they all fell by the wayside. In the end, the only things I found that were reliably triggers for me were low potassium levels, dehydration, and excessive alcohol. From that experience I came to the conclusion there are far fewer real triggers than people think, and if they actually tested them they'd know that. So I don't encourage people to look for triggers. I think it's largely a snipe hunt.
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Also, is it possible that triggers can change in line with our body chemistry? What was a trigger no longer is and vice versa?
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Also, is it possible that triggers can change in line with our body chemistry? What was a trigger no longer is and vice versa?
No different than food tolerances. Always enjoyed eating nuts, especially pistachios. Now, I get a belly ache. Same could be said about triggers...no?
Re: Another nail in the coffin of the caffeine myth April 20, 2018 02:49AM |
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Also, is it possible that triggers can change in line with our body chemistry? What was a trigger no longer is and vice versa?
Yes, I'm sure that's true. Afib is a progressive disease. It changes over time, and other factors in our lives change over time. What worked for you a few years ago might not work next year, and what triggered your afib a few years ago might not trigger it next year.
Like I said, I think looking for triggers is largely a snipe hunt. The more useful thing to do is look for a solution for your afib that will prevent it once and for all without having to identify this, that or the other thing that supposedly triggers your afib. Fix the problem, not the triggers.
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