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Posted by tsco 
Nutrition Afib
April 10, 2014 09:41AM
Any thoughts: Im taking 400 mG Magnesium (Oxide) upsets my stomach every time ! Is this the wrong type?

Big Question (s) of the Day:

why is it that non of these High Ranking renowned Heart specialists ever prescribe a nutritionist for us if we are so sensitive to foods, minerals, caffeine, etc. ?

why is this not part of our prescriptive medical plan (from the Doc)?
Re: Nutrition Afib
April 10, 2014 10:46AM
Hi tsco,

Mag Oxide is the worse form, its essentially about as absorbable as a brick Its cheap though and so thats why its still found in many supplements particularly multivitamins. Its basically useless for helping AFIB and as you have found can cause issues for some.

Stick with Chelated Magnesium glycinate or malate forms using the patented Albion Labs Chelation process which it will say on the bottle, often with the acronym 'TRAACS'.

Also consider adding in topical magnesium as I discuss in the new thread by Peter FA titled 'Questions for stopping AFIB'.

Cheers!
Shannon
Anonymous User
Re: Nutrition Afib
April 10, 2014 03:03PM
Shannon,
I'm currently taking Magnesium Taurate (750mg per day). Do you or anyone else know if Magnesium Taurate is a good form of magnesium to take?
Thanks.

Duke
Re: Nutrition Afib
April 10, 2014 03:13PM
Thats Okay Duke,

Just continue dosing based on your bowel movement s as described in The Strategy, and at some point do an Exatest epithelial IC mineral test to see what all of your major electrolytes look like in ratios to one another.

Shannon
Anonymous User
Re: Nutrition Afib
April 10, 2014 03:25PM
Hi Shannon and all,
Where can I get the Exatest done? Is that covered by insurance? I live in southern California and I have Blue Shield insurance.
Thank you.

Duke
Re: Nutrition Afib
April 10, 2014 03:30PM
Insurance usually will pay for a good part of the Exatest. You just need to find a functional medicine MD, integrative medicine MD, or Naturopath that is familiar with it or at least will prescribe it.

Give Exatest a call and ask for physicians in your area.

Shannon
Anonymous User
Re: Nutrition Afib
April 10, 2014 05:25PM
Hi Shannon,
Last year, I had a blood RBC Magnesium test done by Requestatest.com which claims to test for Magnesium level in red blood cells. It was 6.1 mg/dL. Is this magnesium test just as reliable as the Exatest? Are you familiar or heard of RBC Magnesium test?

Duke
Re: Nutrition Afib
April 10, 2014 07:55PM
Duke - the most accurate test for assessing the magnesium inside cells... specifically, heart cells, is the Exatest. It also assesses the other critical electrolytes - potassium, sodium, calcium, chloride and provides not only that level but the important ratios such as magnesium to calcium and potassium to sodium. Red blood cell analysis checks exactly that; whereas, we are interested in what's inside the heart cell once it gets out of the blood and is transported (hopefully) to the intracellular space.

Magnesium taurate is a good combination. But, it's just that you may not need that much taurine compared to magnesium when you start dosing to optimize your IC magnesium stores.

www.exatest.com

Jackie
Sam
Re: Nutrition Afib
April 11, 2014 10:40AM
Jackie,

Can you tell me what the percentage of Taurine is in Magnesium Taurate?

I checked iHerb and they do a Douglas Laboratories product which they say contains 400 mg magnesium. Since Mag Taurate is 9% elemental mag this seems unlikely - especially since they recommend 4 tablets per day!

Any thoughts?

Thanks

Sam
Re: Nutrition Afib
April 11, 2014 10:46AM
Sam,

One serving size (4 tablets) = 400 mg mag. This means 1 tablet = 100 mg mag.

As an FYI, I've taken 4g taurine/day for years (9 1/2), as NOW brand powder.

George
Re: Nutrition Afib
April 12, 2014 09:42AM
Sam - I don't have the time today to track this down online properly for you.. but my concern is - example.. the Douglas Labs Mg Taurate. ... what is the form of the magnesium used in this combination.... if it's all oxide, then forget this product as very little of the magnesium will be absorbed anyway. You can take taurine separately if you are after the taurine properties.

Jackie
Re: Nutrition Afib
April 12, 2014 10:46AM
Jackie,

From the iHerb site: Magnesium (from Magnesium Taurate Complex, fully reacted)

I would think that mag taurate implies that the mag is in taurate form, not oxide.

George
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