Inflammation and afib

[www.medpagetoday.com]...
"increasing evidence points toward inflammation playing a role in the pathogenesis of atrial fibrillation".

I am trying anatabloc as a preventative to my occasional bouts with Atrial Fibrillation. These episodes I experience 6 - 8 times a year. So far none for 4 months while on anatabloc. This is a great anti-inflamatory. See www.anatabloc.com for more information.

Anyone else tried?

Mark,

Interesting-

Do you own stock in, or have any connection with, Star Scientific, the corporation that sells anatabloc? (CIGX on NASDAQ)

Mark, You may find this of interest [www.afibbers.com]

Hans

Mark - what is the cost of anatabloc.. including the fact that it takes a visit to the doctor's office to get it? Or is it easily obtainable OTC?

Jackie

I just ordered a month's worth for $99.99 to see if it helps (I have a lot of general inflammation from sports injuries). No prescription is needed - a bit pricey...if you took a pill every day.

It's available online- $99.99 for 200 lozenges. The recommended dosage is 3 to 6 lozenges per day.

If you Google anatabloc you get lots of financial websites discussing Star Scientific. Also posts that imply that anatabloc contains a tobacco derivative and was originally developed as a stop smoking product. Some other sites that say that it may help Alzheimers and psoriasis.

So it's a real wonder supplement...

I hope I am wrong but this just sounds like a scam to me.

I'll let you folks know what I think about after I use it for a month or two. I agree that this has the smell of scam...when I googled for info, the same stuff just keeps repeating itself in various forms, page after page. The few reviews seem contrived also. We'll see.

Hi Chaps & Chapesses.

I'm not going to add to the anatabloc debate, but I suffered really badly from AF, even to the point where I couldn't walk across the room at one point. I was prescribed some anti-inflammatory drugs (flamrase 75mg) for a nasal problem and the AF started to get ease up. Fortunately I had some really strong NASAID's (Indometacin 25mg) left over from some other problem. I've been taking the Indometacin for just over a week and the AF and the ectopic beats has really subsided, hopefully with another week they'll go completely. The only downside is that you have to take something to protect your stomach such as omeprazole or you could end up with some serious stomach problems.

So there could be something about anti-inflammatory drugs and AF.

Later

Pete

Pete - there is no question that inflammation can be a trigger for afib. There are many natural measures to control inflammation. Many drugs drugs are effective but come with adverse side effects so this becomes a personal, informed/ educated choice or decision. Jackie

Yes, I thought this was a scam at first also, but now studies are emerging
about it's impact on inflammation.

[www.rfdn.org]
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Peer reviewed study:
[finance.yahoo.com]

This is working for me so far. Will keep you updated.

Mark,

Glad to hear it is working for you so far. For my part, I have no doubt that inflammation can be a trigger for afib. My skepticism is whether Anatabloc can effectively treat and prevent afib. The links that you attached address Alzheimer's.

Furthermore, if you read the Yahoo Finance link that you attached, it says

"About Star Scientific -Star Scientific is a technology-oriented company with a mission to reduce the harm associated with tobacco at every level. "

Anyone who is interested in scams should rent the dark comedy "Thank You for Smoking." It gives a pretty accurate picture of how effective the tobacco industry is in spining their web and selling their products.

And just in the interest of full disclosure, I am a former 30 year smoker and my family grew tobacco when I was a child. If there is a more addictive substance on this earth I hope never to encounter it.

So for $99.99 per month they claim to cure your afib and prevent Alzheimers; I hope that's true but I doubt it.

The one thing is certain is that you sending your $99.99 helps the financial balance sheet of Star Scientific.


EB

Then again,

Look at anything produced by big pharma, our corporate altruistic friends, and remember the industry's skepticism of glucosamine when it first came to light.

Glucosamine turned out to be a wonder. About 20 years ago I had a knee that was painful and full of fluid, and was progressively worsening over the years. Riding off-road motorcycles, hiking and mountain biking were my passion and I was becoming a cripple. Rest, special exersize, nothing helped. Three specialists later, I had three vastly different treatment options ranging from massive doses of NSAIDS to surgury. After years of great pain and reduced mobility I tried the then-scoffed-at glucosamine. The citations for its use were not unlike this new product - but back then the internet wasn't a review factor - you relied mostly on printed matter. Thirty days after starting the glucosamine my knee was cured and I could actually feel a change occurring within 10 days.
It took over a decade for the medical profession to accept a product that was actually more effective than the best they had to offer.

I have a very old pig who can barely get up to eat. After a month of glucosamine he is much more mobile - what an amazing substance!

I now try to keep an open mind when a new product emerges. The $99.99? When glucosamine first hit the market, it was similarly priced.
I found a couple of more authentic-looking reviews of anatabloc on Amazon that speak to its anti-inflammatory properties. It's worth at least a try, I would think.

Hans,

I found this board very helpful after my first afib episode 7 years ago.

I experience 6 - 10 Afib episodes each year (typically every 1 to 2 months).
I take Flecanide and Atenenol and usually convert within 24 - 48 hours.
Couple times needed Cardio convert.

I found all the Afib + Inflammation links via Google, and decided to try Anatabine (ingredient in Cigrx and Anatbloc products) from Star Scientific.

Apparently, Star Scientific stumbled upon this when testing their Cigrx smoking cessation product. Found that it lowered CRP levels and started doing additional testing. Recently introduced new product Anatabloc which contains 3 times the anatabine as Cigrx.

I am conducting my own experiment using their product to see if it helps with Afib. Currently up to 4 months with no new episode. Hardly a cure in such a short time but we will see. I haven't gone 4 months since the first year or 2.

This Anatabloc seems to be sort of a super asprin with the side effects of long term use.

See www.anatabloc.com for more information.

Mark

You will also find additional reviews at the Anatabloc Facebook page. Seems to be particularily effective for Arthritis and Thyroid problems.
I have found it extremely helpful for maintaining clear sinuses. Less sinus headaches.

EB,

We should know more as they release additional studies.

They are working with John Hopkins and the Roskamp clinic.

It would be ironic if anatabine (substance found in tobacco) would turn out to be best anti-inflammatory for treating a multitude of diseases.
Kind of a super asprin.

For those who are sensitive to artificial (chemical) sweetener, be aware that this product contains sucralose along with several other preservative/stabilizer chemicals.

Supplemental Facts
Serving Size: 1 Tablet
Servings Per Container: 200

Ingredients:
Vitamin A (as retinal acetate) is 417 IU Amount Per Serving | 8% Daily Value
Vitamin D3 (as cholecalciferol) is 33 IU Amount Per Serving | 8% Daily Value
Anatabine (as anatabine citrate) is 1 mg | Daily Value not established.

Other ingredients: Mannitol, natural and artificial mint flavors, sucralose, silicon dioxide, stearic acid, hydroxypropyl methylcellulose, magnesium stearate, titanium dioxide (color), natural glaze, methylparaben, propylparaben, triethyl citrate, citric acid, BHT, mono and diglyciderides and polysorbate 80.

Take one to two lozenges three times daily. Do not exceed 6 tablets a day except on the advice of a physician or pharmacist.

[phx.corporate-ir.net]

Jackie

Yes, I just verified that the product contains 3.2 mg of sucralose per lozenge. The $99.99 bottle will go directly from the carton to the garbage can. There is some talk about Anatabloc being developed in the near future without the extra ingredients, including sucralose, but nothing concrete in that regard could be found from the manufacturer.

This supplement trial-and-error phase is expensive!

Please send me your order

So far so good for me. 4 1/2 months with no new occurences.
Also has been awesome for sinusitus. No more steriods.

Will have my CRP level checked next week to see how low it is.
This is a reading of inflammation.