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Erling
Book: 'The Great Cholesterol Con'
January 14, 2011 06:57AM
[spacedoc.net]

The Great Cholesterol Con: The Truth About What Really Causes Heart Disease and How to Avoid It
by Dr. Malcolm Kendrick

Please understand the significance of the graph in the brief video!

Erling

Erling
Re: Book: 'The Great Cholesterol Con'
January 14, 2011 07:23AM
Author's bio:

Dr Malcolm Kendrick (MbChB MRCGP) MD qualified in Aberdeen Scotland. He has worked in family practice for almost twenty years, and learned that treating patients is not like treating textbooks. He has specialized in heart disease and set up the on-line educational website for the European Society of Cardiology.

Book description and reviews:

[www.amazon.com]

Product Description:

Statins are the so-called "wonder drugs" widely prescribed to lower blood cholesterol levels that claim to offer unparalleled protection against heart disease. Many experts claim that they are completely safe and that they are also capable of preventing a whole series of other conditions. This groundbreaking study exposes the truth behind the hype surrounding statins and reveals a number of crucial facts, including that high cholesterol levels do not cause heart disease; that high-fat diets—saturated or otherwise—do not affect blood cholesterol levels; and that for most men and all women the benefits offered by statins are negligible at best. Other data is also provided that shows that statins have many more side affects than is often acknowledged. This hard-hitting survey also points a finger at the powerful pharmaceutical industry and an unquestioning medical profession as perpetrators of the largely facetious concepts of “good” and “bad” cholesterol that are designed to convince millions of people to spend billions on statins. With clarity and wit, this appeal to common sense and scientific fact debunks common assumptions on what constitutes a healthy lifestyle and diet, as well as the idea that there is a miracle cure for heart disease.

Re: Book: 'The Great Cholesterol Con'
January 14, 2011 07:40AM
Great video clip/graph...and another great awareness message courtesy of Dr. Graveline's website and another important book to read.

Thanks.
Erling
Re: Book: 'The Great Cholesterol Con'
January 14, 2011 10:34AM
Different book, same title: 'The Great Cholesterol Con', this one by Anthony Colpo [www.anthonycolpo.com]

[www.amazon.com]

Excerpt from a review:

"No, Colpo is no guru who is trying to persuade people to buy some outlandish theory or its relevant nostrums, he presents crucial information and supports it all in a most admirable fashion. References that will smart in certain quarters and will make him a few enemies abound.

Books have been written about the Cholesterol Dilemma since Professor George Mann made that famous statement in the seventies about the Cholesterol Hypothesis being the biggest deception of mankind in the history of Medicine. Ravnskov comes to mind, his "The Cholesterol Myths" is a classic that should be in every library. Layman Frank Cooper wrote a book for the masses from his perspective of a Familial Hypercholesterolaemia sufferer, "Cholesterol And The French Paradox", and Professor Walter Hartenbach enlightened the German market with his great work "Die Cholesterinluege" ("The Cholesterol Lie")."

Great endorsements [www.thegreatcholesterolcon.com]:

-- Duane Graveline, MD, MPH. Former NASA astronaut, USAF Flight Surgeon, Family Practice physician:

"I wholeheartedly urge you to read this book from cover to cover - it could be your life that is saved by the valuable information gracing the pages of this long overdue book."

-- Uffe Ravnskov, MD, PhD. Award-winning independent researcher and author of The Cholesterol Myths: Exposing the Fallacy that Saturated Fat and Cholesterol Cause Heart Disease:

"In this timely and urgently needed book, Colpo starts by pointing out the many contradictions inherent in the lipid hypothesis. Meticulously, he dissects the numerous fallacies of the anti-cholesterol campaigners and highlights their blatant misuse of statistics."

lisa s
Re: Book: 'The Great Cholesterol Con'
January 14, 2011 01:40PM
Erling,

I didn't see USA on the graph. Where do Americans fall on this? Or Canadians, for that matter.

lisa

Erling
Re: Book: 'The Great Cholesterol Con'
January 14, 2011 02:58PM
Lisa,

The significance of the graph is that there is no correlation between cholesterol levels and heart disease death rate - none - which is true anywhere/ everywhere.

The point of all this is to stop taking the doctor's brainwashed advice as truth, and quit the statin cold. And by the way, all honest medical scientists agree that so-called normal cholesterol is 240 mg/dL, even higher.

The more one looks at all this, the more repulsively maddening it is, and I've been looking at it for a very long time. Brainwashed or not, the statin purveyors are murderers -- ignorance, as the say, is no excuse.

Erling

Elizabeth H.
Re: Book: 'The Great Cholesterol Con'
January 14, 2011 07:23PM
Erling:

Have you heard of Dr. Kilmer McCully? I have a couple of his tapes, he also is on the website that you posted.

[www.spacedoc.net]

Just because a persons cholesterol is low doesn't mean that person has a clean bill of health---my husband had great chol. numbers and I envied his blood pressure, much lower than mine, yet he eventually had CHF, he was a diabetic. I am wondering if one has CHF would their cholesterol and blood pressure be low, my brother as well has great blood pressure, yet he was given a diagnosis of CHF. strange.

Liz
Elizabeth H.
Re: Book: 'The Great Cholesterol Con'
January 14, 2011 07:30PM
Well, fiddle, I need a different URL

[www.spacedoc.net]

this seems to work in the preview.

Liz
Erling
Re: Book: 'The Great Cholesterol Con'
January 14, 2011 09:45PM
Thanks Liz, this is important-

I followed with great interest Dr. McCully's career and discoveries, how his focus on homocysteine as a cause of arterio-/atherosclerosis created problems that ended his stay as researcher at Harvard. Elevated homocysteine, toxic to the lining of arteries, can be taken care of readily with inexpensive vitamins. Ultimately the 'cholesterol theory' prevailed, giving rise to the mega-billion dollar statin industry, which as we now know should never have happened. Here are articles I've saved that you might enjoy - I think it's a terrific story, and very relevant. I haven't looked at these in a long time, so this will be fun.

Thanks again! Erling

Resurrection of Kilmer McCully [www.lef.org]

The Fall and Rise Of Kilmer McCully [www.nytimes.com]

MarkS
Re: Book: 'The Great Cholesterol Con'
January 15, 2011 12:51AM
There's a useful summary of both sides of the argument here:
[www.saga.co.uk]

I am still in 2 minds about it. I finally decided not to go with statins as my cardio said he thought there was a sub-clinical degradation on mental ability.

Mark

Re: Book: 'The Great Cholesterol Con'
January 15, 2011 09:04AM
Mark - good choice... if you read some of the many posts by Dr. Graveline, you'll note the references to mental degradation... especially memory loss which he identifies as transient global amnesia.

Jackie

Clips of interest:

November 30, 2010 The brain contains more cholesterol than any other organ in the body, has to produce its own cholesterol and won't function normally if it doesn't churn out enough. Defects in cholesterol metabolism have been linked with Alzheimer's disease and other neurodegenerative conditions. Now researchers at Joslin Diabetes Center have discovered that diabetes can affect how much cholesterol the brain can make.
[www.physorg.com]
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It is the function of reducing the synthesis of cholesterol that Shin's study shows may also harm brain function.

"If you try to lower the cholesterol by taking medicine that is attacking the machinery of cholesterol synthesis in the liver, that medicine goes to the brain too. And then it reduces the synthesis of cholesterol which is necessary in the brain," said Shin.

In his experiments, Shin tested the activity of the neurotransmitter-release machinery from brain cells without cholesterol present and measured how well the machinery functioned. He then included cholesterol in the system and again measured the protein function. Cholesterol increased protein function by five times.

"Our study shows there is a direct link between cholesterol and the neurotransmitter release," said Shin. "And we know exactly the molecular mechanics of what happens in the cells. Cholesterol changes the shape of the protein to stimulate thinking and memory."

While reducing the cholesterol in the brain may make you have less memory and cognitive skills, more cholesterol in the blood does not make people smarter. Because cholesterol in the blood cannot get across the blood brain barrier, there is no connection to the amount of cholesterol a person eats and brain function.
[www.physorg.com]

Erling
Re: Book: 'The Great Cholesterol Con'
January 15, 2011 09:31AM
Mark,

To be of two minds on a subject for which there is a plenitude of facts shows a lack of knowledge. In such a state you will remain lost in contradictory opinions, and will consider that the article you provided is “a useful summary of both sides of the argument”. The logical corrective is to seek out the facts, which will convince you that there is no argument –- or more correctly, the only arguments are between differences of opinion - which opinion supports what you would like to believe? Or, would you prefer to believe that there are no facts?

Erling

MarkS
Re: Book: 'The Great Cholesterol Con'
January 16, 2011 11:20AM
Erling,

It's a very arrogant approach to believe you are 100% right on a subject and every one else must be lacking in knowledge because they do not happen to agree with you.

A scientist will keep their mind open and study the facts, but often the facts are contradictory, as with cholesterol. In that case the only valid route is to keep an open mind.

I'm afraid their are too many closed minds on this bulletin board (and increasingly in the world) where people think they are right and refuse to consider their might just be an alternative view with some validity.

I hope you are not falling into this trap.

Mark
Re: Book: 'The Great Cholesterol Con'
January 16, 2011 03:06PM
Mark - on this particular subject, an alarming number of people are either very misinformed or are totally ignorant about the danger or downside of statin drugs and that's not just an opinion but a fact stated over and over by respected, credentialed and knowledgeable people, many of whom are physicians looking at the adverse effects in their patients that seem to be ignored by mainstream medicine, the FDA and Big Pharma.

That said, I hope you will spend time in the Statin link reading the supporting links offered there to gain insight.
<[www.afibbers.org]>.

If you haven’t yet read the paper by cardiologist, Peter Langsjoen, MD, FACC (Physician, Biochemist and Researcher) “Statin-induced Cardiomyopathy”… include that in your reading as well along with the many articles by Duane Graveline, MD, USAF flight surgeon and research scientist at both the Aerospace Medical Research Laboratory at Wright-Patterson AFB and the USAF School of Aerospace Medicine.
[www.spacedoc.net]

Here's more
[www.thincs.org]

Jackie
Erling
Re: Book: 'The Great Cholesterol Con'
January 17, 2011 08:24AM
Mark -

It is unfortunate that you confuse insistence on truth and facts with arrogance - especially when furtherance of human well-being is the honest task. You say that "often the facts are contradictory", which is illogical and impossible by definition. Facts are facts, whereas opinions can be contradictory, can be anything, really. Your opinion is that there are too many closed minds on this bulletin board. An open mind can indeed be a wonderful thing -- if it honestly desires truth and facts. Otherwise facts will just blow on through, leaving only a confusion of contradictory opinions.

Erling

Mirriam-Webster:

FACT

1: a thing done
2: archaic: performance, doing
3: the quality of being actual: actuality <a question of fact hinges on evidence>
4:
a: something that has actual existence <space exploration is now a fact>
b: an actual occurrence <prove the fact of damage>
5: a piece of information presented as having objective reality <n fact> <in truth>

A few lines (facts or opinions?) from Dr. Malcolm Kendrick's introduction to this heavy/witty book, The Great Cholesterol Con:

"In a world dominated by PR controlled spin, critics of the cholesterol theory get very little airtime. If they did, this world would change, and I hope this book starts the process of change. Because, despite my apparent joviality, I am deadly serious in my belief that the misguided war against cholesterol, using statins, represents something very close to a crime against humanity. So close that you may not be able to spot the difference."

Erling
Re: Book: 'The Great Cholesterol Con'
January 17, 2011 05:42PM
Thanks Jackie -

Here is an insightful article on statins, CoQ10, and the 1990 Merck Co. patents on a statin/CoQ10 combination product*, a report on the ICQA 2002 Conference in London, UK.

Julian Whitaker MD,: Coenzyme Q10: Miracle Nutrient

[www.whitakerwellness.com]

*
US patent 4929437, May 29, 1990
US patent 4933165, June 12, 1990

For full texts use 'Patent Number Search' at <[www.uspto.gov];

Erling
Re: Book: 'The Great Cholesterol Con'
January 18, 2011 11:33AM
Liz,

Sorry, slow response again! Your comments and good questions regarding your brother's condition need good answers, which can be found in this forums parade of books and articles, here and earlier, by eminent scientists, including of course Dr. Kilmer McCully's great work. Here are some relevant facts that have emerged over many decades of research:

-- low blood pressure can be a symptomatic result of CHF (congestive heart failure), expressed as low cardiac volumetric output and force of contraction, resulting from energy deficit.

-- CHF is typically an expression of low energy (ATP) availability to the heart muscles, which results from low Co-enzyme Q10 (and other essential compounds). See 'The Sinatra Solution: Metabolic Cardiology', Stephen T. Sinatra, MD. For instance, "As a cardiologist, I believe that the discovery of coenzyme Q10 is one of the greatest medical advances of the twentieth century for the treatment of heart disease." (CHF in particular). There's a nice summary on the inside of the book's cover: "It's a fact: People with heart disease lack energy. The heart needs a large amount of oxygenated blood flow to continually meet its huge energy demands. That's where the triad of cardiac health comes in -- coenzyme Q10, L-carnitine, and D-ribose." And of course magnesium, completing his "awesome foursome".

-- low tissue CoQ10 is an inevitable consequence of aging. Nearly all is synthesized within the body, very little coming from diet. CoQ10 tissue concentrations typically peak in the teens and 20's (Mother Nature wants kids!), followed by a slow decline to ~half of that by age 80. See for example 'Energy and Defense', Gian Paolo Littarru, MD, PhD, p. 74 text and graphs.

-- low cholesterol is not necessarily a good thing at all, especially if it is low because of statin use. All statins unavoidably reduce CoQ10 bio-synthesis by interrupting the biochemical 'mevalonate pathway'. (google this for thousands of references.)

-- "People with high cholesterol live the longest". Uffe Ravnskov, MD, PhD. See the topic below: 'Outrageous 'statins' scam vs. benefits of high cholesterol'. This excellent, fully referenced paper should be studied in detail if one has any concern about cholesterol (and if one doesn't!). He ends with: "To the public and the scientific community I say, "Wake up!"

-- the #1 hazard for vascular disease is circulating homocysteine, a toxic naturally occurring amino acid from methionine metabolism. Dr. McCully was instrumental in discovering, proving, and publishing this, and determining it's correction by nutrients, largely vitamins B6, B12, and Folic acid. See Kilmer S. McCully, 'The Homocysteine Revolution' (1997), Craig Cooney, PhD, 'Methyl Magic' (1999), and much, much more elsewhere.

Elizabeth H.
Re: Book: 'The Great Cholesterol Con'
January 18, 2011 04:10PM
Erling:

I got CoQ 10 for my brother, he has been taking it for the last 5 weeks, he has never taken a satin drug. I don't know what his cholesterol is, he has had blood tests run and I take him back to the doctor next monday.

I firmly believe his diet of raw fruits and vegetables, hardly any meat is responsible for his condition---he is no doubt low in vit. B12 (I also got him a good B vit), you have to be aware of what nutrients you are consuming, what your diet may be lacking. I believe he has very low testosterone as well, the heart needs that hormone also.

I don't understand why people seem to know so little about their health, they can be very smart about most everything else.

Thank you for your reply.

Liz
Ken
Re: Book: 'The Great Cholesterol Con'
January 19, 2011 05:56AM
Erling and others:

Perhaps you can give me your reaction to these numbers and this brief summary:

CAD, with three series of angioplasties, most recent in 2005. Have been on statins at least since then and probably (memory and records poor [a statin side effect I believe]) even earlier.

02/23/2010 - Total = 160, HDL = 36, LDL = 93, Trig = 153
08/24/2010 - Total = 161, HDL = 35, LDL = 35, Trig = 249
Stopped taking Vytorin around 11/1/2010
12/23/2010 - Total = 241, HDL = 29, LDL = 136, Trig = 389 <<<<<<<<<<
ZLDL = 76 (want less than 40)
(what the heck is ZLDL?? in all my years messing with this, this is the first time I have heard or gotten a reading on ZLDL?)

Obvious reaction from Dr (and me): Need to get back on the Vytorin.
I am complying.

At this stage, I am reluctant to NOT take the statin because of my fear of recurring coronary artery blockage. I have not read the spacedoc site, yet I know I will hear that you can control cholesterol without the statins. The above says otherwise for me. (**) I am fearful that the comment "higher cholesterol will not cause artery blockage" will not play out for me.

(** I follow a "generally" good low cholesterol maintenance diet, but obviously not well enough, as the numbers above atest.)

As a side perspective, I have been taking copious fish oil and anti oxidents since my second angioplasty series in 1995, so I feel my homecystine (arterial inflammation) is somewhat well controlled.

Anyway, any comments for anyone on my situation. I know no one is giving medical advice, but I want your perspective and thoughts.

Thanks,
Ken
lisa s
Re: Book: 'The Great Cholesterol Con'
January 19, 2011 06:28AM
Ken,

Regarding methods to get your cholesterol numbers down without statins, when I have used this recipe consistantly in the past, it (without changing anything else) lowered my cholesterol over 50 pts.

Mix equal parts:

Flax meal
Oat bran
Wheat bran (not germ)

Add copious amounts of cinnamon. Store in fridge or freezer.

Mix 2/3 c. of mixture with 12 oz. skim milk or water. You can cook this on the stovetop or microwave like you would oatmeal, or if you use milk, you can drink it cold.

Putting the issue of cholesterol numbers aside, this mixture also helps with bowel tolerance.

lisa

Erling
Re: Book: 'The Great Cholesterol Con'
January 19, 2011 12:51PM
Hi again, Ken -

First, I hope the TTM procedure has been completely successful for you, and a great lessening of concerns! Regarding your dilemma with current cholesterol test results, I have little to offer besides discussion. Concern about further arterial blockage obviously needs to be addressed, but how? Lisa's suggested way, demonstrably true for her and fully supported by science, would be my way for sure. As I see it, perhaps the only problem is going against the doctor's method. On that I do have something to say.

At this point in 'the great cholesterol con' it is solid scientific fact, not opinion by any stretch, that all statins rob the body of its ability to synthesize coenzyme Q10. This is literally equivalent to being choked, as oxygen and CoQ10 are equally imperative in generating the ATP fuel that all cells run on (the greatest amount is produced by the mitochondria, controlled by their own DNA). Without getting into a rant, lets just point to what all of these current statin threads point to: the vast majority of prescribing doctors are not concerned about statin side effects - probably don't even know about them - they just want the numbers down. That is the horror.

I'm not sure the 'spacedoc' site provides much in the way of controlling cholesterol without drugs - perhaps I've missed it - but it will provide a thorough grounding in the science, and facts about the con and what it is doing to us. For instance, Dr. Kilmer McCully's emphasis on circulating toxic homocyteine as the true villain in vascular disease (rock solid science), also the irrefutable facts regarding CoQ10, which really is the bottom line in all this.

What form of CoQ10 are you using? There is a huge difference in 'bioavailability', ranging from great to near zero. In 'the other room' it was recommended that the logical way to approach CoQ10 usage is a serum assay for CoQ10. The test is certainly available, and is much relied upon by enlightened 'metabolic' cardiologists such as Dr. Stephen Sinatra. That test should be the very first step if a decision to use a statin is to be made. This is the only real way to know if the mitochondrial DNA is being protected by the antioxidant potency of CoQ10, because if it isn't it's downhill all the way.

Wishing you well!

Erling

Erling
Re: Book: 'The Great Cholesterol Con'
January 19, 2011 01:38PM
Metametrix is one source for CoQ10 serum testing:

Coenzyme Q10 Profile - Serum
Antioxidant Protection

[www.metametrix.com]

Ken
Re: Book: 'The Great Cholesterol Con'
January 19, 2011 08:43PM
Erling: many thanks. I supplement with 100mg per day and have been at 200 mg per day forever, so I was less concerned about the depletion. Since you mention not all CoQ10 sources are equally bioavailable, I will have to do some more research on that point. Any pointers you have to show me sources for such a question would be appreciated, but I am off to look.

Thanks again,
Ken

TTM was completely successful for afib banishment. PACs have raised their head and keep me challenged to keep them at bay.
Erling
Re: Book: 'The Great Cholesterol Con'
January 20, 2011 06:41AM
Ken,

What does this mean: "I supplement with 100mg per day and have been at 200 mg per day forever..."? You asked for information - please be clear.

Also, what form and brand of CoQ10 are you using?

Good that you're free of AF -- we can talk about the ectopics as that issue is definitely tied in with cellular energy generation/ cell voltage/ CoQ10 in ways that are well understood. The excellent Metametrix lab and website I linked to has much information -- tell me what you think?

240 total cholesterol is perfectly normal, including for me, 160 would scare me to death, but I have nothing at all to say for your special case, multiple stents etc. I have no clue about 'what the heck is ZLDL'. Seems the 'powers' are forever dividing 'cholesterol' into more fractions and ratios and adding letters, increasingly frustrating to figure out. I quit their con game a long time ago.

Erling

GeorgeN
Re: Book: 'The Great Cholesterol Con'
February 13, 2011 08:15PM
Here is an interview of Dr. Graveline by Dr. Mercola
[articles.mercola.com]

and a transcript of the interview if you'd rather read it, or if Mercola makes you register to see the videos:
[mercola.fileburst.com]

George
lisa s
Re: Book: 'The Great Cholesterol Con'
February 14, 2011 07:58AM
George,

Very interesting interview. Thank you for making both the sound-feed and the transcript available. I was able to listen and read the transcript while they were talking. That works very well for me.

When posting interviews, maybe others will post both, when available.

lisa

Erling
Re: Book: 'The Great Cholesterol Con'
February 14, 2011 10:23AM
Many thanks George -

Of great importance was Dr Graveline's accenting of statins' responsibility in mitochondrial DNA damage/accumulating mutations resulting from CoQ10 inhibition, also the loss of cognition by inhibition of cholesterol synthesis in the brain, also loss of 'dolichols' [en.wikipedia.org]. All of this is absolutely tragic for Dr. Graveline, and for everyone that has been, and will be, conned into using these horrendous drugs.

This caused me to review the thread from the beginning. I was again taken by this article by Dr.Julian Whitaker, MD [www.whitakerwellness.com].

Erling

GeorgeN
Re: Book: 'The Great Cholesterol Con'
February 14, 2011 07:31PM
Mercola's take is that elevated cholesterol is a marker of inflammation. This is a position I've had for a long time. Treating cholesterol is therefore "shooting the messenger." In my opinion, treatment should go much farther up the causal chain and start with lifestyle and elevated insulin levels. Reducing insulin will reduce inflammation.

To the extent statins are beneficial, it is because of their inflammation lowering properties. If these are needed, they can be obtained at much lower dosages (and risks) that are typically prescribed, as Graveline has previously pointed out.

My brother in law was prescribed a statin a couple of years ago. He is very active, immediately noticed muscle weakness and correlated it with the statin. He took himself off the statin very quickly and fortunately has no long term side effects (at least that are noticeable).

George
Erling
Re: Book: 'The Great Cholesterol Con'
February 14, 2011 07:50PM
George,

Yes, but isn't it a fact that equal, maybe even better, anti-inflammatory effects are provided by much less problematic, even benign, substances? I echo Dr. Rosedale who said that these drugs have no place in medicine. Period.

Erling

Re: Book: 'The Great Cholesterol Con'
February 15, 2011 05:49AM
Erling - yes, indeed, very benign compared to the dangerous statins.

Natural anti-inflammatories such as generous amounts of Omega 3's, CoQ10, green tea, curcumin, boswellia, ginger, quercetin, rutin, rosemary, resveratrol and proteolytic enzymes. Zyflamend is a combination many of these. None have the detrimental effects of statins.

Jackie
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