Interesting read. .by Yuxi - AFIBBERS FORUM
As others have said, a grreat EP! QuoteMeganMN He also mentioned trying IV caffeine, in addition to the Isoproterenol, or consider other induction agents that are less common, like Calcium. Interesting as I've never seen calcium mentioned in this way. While, for me, excess calcium intake isn't a trigger, per se, it does modify the environment from which afib arises. It makes afby GeorgeN - AFIBBERS FORUM
I met with my regular EP today. It was REALLY good and informative. We talked a long time. He said that looking at my ECG, he suspects that the PACs and SVT are coming from the left atrium. He said that it is a 'disease' of the ion channels and that they are designed to pass calcium, potassium, sodium through to allow a charge or not, and the channel becomes problematic and allows a chby MeganMN - AFIBBERS FORUM
Interesting. The first reference I got on afib was "Lone Atrial Fibrillation, Towards a Cure" by the founder of this site, the late Hans Larsen. Below are some quotes from it that I just pulled up on vagal afib & beta blockers from the PDF version I got in 2004 (a 2015 version is available on Amazon, but there is no Kindle version). My AF is almost always (though not 100%) noctuby GeorgeN - AFIBBERS FORUM
This is all so interesting - I know my afib is caused by electrolyte issues, and I have only had a couple of events, but since the last I have had a lot of ectopic beats and arrhythmias. Interestingly, a couple of months before this I started taking calcium by way of algae cal like the other posters on this thread- I wonder if it is linked. But I have to take calcium as I have weak bones. I amby Fuzzyduck - AFIBBERS FORUM
QuoteGeorgeN Shortly after my first episode in 2004, I learned of the saying, "afib begets afib." Then I had an episode that lasted 2.5 months. I thought my chances of controlling afib were very low. During the episode, my EP wanted me to stay out of rhythm as my afib heart rate was < 100 BPM (as determined by a holter monitor) & said I was doing well. My path to afib was excby Shiny Sleeves - AFIBBERS FORUM
QuoteThe Anti-Fib There are a few of us like me, GeorgeN, and Steve Carr that have been able to regress their AFIB over a fairly long period of tome (decades). Electrolyte balancing and a Ca+ reduction diet has been a part of this comprehensive effort, that so far has reduced our AFIB. Steve Carr has kept his afib at bay and calcium reduction was a big part of that. His site (requires free reby GeorgeN - AFIBBERS FORUM
"Are you not concerned about your bone health without enough calcium intake? I have osteoporosis and was told to consume 1000mg calcium per day. Ugh, such a dilemma! " I limit Ca+ like George, I make sure my Vit D3 levels are good. Years ago, when I had Osteopenia, I was told to just increase Vit D3, as I was low, and that The D3 would transport the CA+ back into my bones, so I didnby The Anti-Fib - AFIBBERS FORUM
QuoteYuxi Are you not concerned about your bone health without enough calcium intake? I have osteoporosis and was told to consume 1000mg calcium per day. Ugh, such a dilemma! First, there is a lot of osteoporosis in the maternal side of my family. My late grandmother, my aunt (93) and my late mother all had it. My mother got jawbone necrosis from the bisphosphonate meds. Hence it is sometby GeorgeN - AFIBBERS FORUM
QuoteYuxi Are your taking strontium alone? how much? I recently started taking AlgaeCal, which has 360mg calcium as well as magnesium, vitamin D3, vitamin C, vitamin K2, and boron. I only take 1/4 of the suggested daily dose because I am also sensitive to calcium.. I also take the other supplements you are taking plus Biotin and a couple of other bone supplements.by Daisy - AFIBBERS FORUM
Are your taking strontium alone? how much? I recently started taking AlgaeCal, which has 360mg calcium as well as magnesium, vitamin D3, vitamin C, vitamin K2, and boron. I only take 1/4 of the suggested daily dose because I am also sensitive to calcium. QuoteDaisy I am also sensitive to calcium and my doctor recommended strontium instead (not radioactive!) and it doesn’t bother me.by Yuxi - AFIBBERS FORUM
QuoteYuxi Are you not concerned about your bone health without enough calcium intake? I have osteoporosis and was told to consume 1000mg calcium per day. Ugh, such a dilemma! I am also sensitive to calcium and my doctor recommended strontium instead (not radioactive!) and it doesn’t bother me.by Daisy - AFIBBERS FORUM
Are you not concerned about your bone health without enough calcium intake? I have osteoporosis and was told to consume 1000mg calcium per day. Ugh, such a dilemma! QuoteGeorgeN Then very recently had an increase in episodes & burden. Realized I'd increased calcium from canned salmon. Stopped that and then got more episodes with no identified triggers (as I posted here). I assumeby Yuxi - AFIBBERS FORUM
Shortly after my first episode in 2004, I learned of the saying, "afib begets afib." Then I had an episode that lasted 2.5 months. I thought my chances of controlling afib were very low. During the episode, my EP wanted me to stay out of rhythm as my afib heart rate was < 100 BPM (as determined by a holter monitor) & said I was doing well. My path to afib was excessive enduraby GeorgeN - AFIBBERS FORUM
QuotePoppino At 70 my T was 532 my D was very high 125. B12 high too 1313. But cholesterol sugar liver vg. I read that maybe too high D or B12 can cause heart palps? Thoughts? It is likely that the B12 test you had was total B12, which includes inactive forms that have been oxidized. If you were to have a test of active B12 (not commonly offered by PCPs) I'd guess that your results would bby Daisy - AFIBBERS FORUM
QuoteMeganMNDoes anyone have any recommendations for sleep? One thing that works pretty well for me are listening to yoga nidra scripts. Don't know if your heart feelings would impact the efficacy. I have tiny mp3 player with earbuds that I use. "Yoga Nidra is a form of guided meditation also known as “yogic sleep” or “effortless relaxation”. It’s usually practiced lying down witby GeorgeN - AFIBBERS FORUM
I take Kal Brand Magnesium Orotate 200 mg. That's 200 mg in 4 capsules, so 50 mg in one. I've had people on this forum say the orotate form doesn't absorb well. But I've always liked it. It doesn't cause diarrhea which is nice, too. I've tried many forms of Mag. The glycinate form relaxes me too much, which figures as glycine's a relaxing amino acid. / I'by californiagal - AFIBBERS FORUM
Just to clarify I’m not stopping D3 supplementation I’m just changing the type I use. Most D3 like the gel capsules people take are produced from the oil contained in sheep wool. This oil is extracted from the wool using a petroleum product called hexane. The sheep wool is literally soak in a vat of hexane to extract the oil from it. The hexane is then boiled off (it is recaptured to be used aby Rob626 - AFIBBERS FORUM
Quotebettylou4488 I thought I was crazy with the D3 but confirmed it a few times for me too. I am seriously thinking of plopping down the hundreds of dollars for those sunlight lamps (was that you that talked about them on here?). In any event.. that is great. I am going to try and get my GP to let me have one of those continuous monitors for a month- I guess they can do that if you are not diaby GeorgeN - AFIBBERS FORUM
Oxalate Dumping: The WORST Food That Feeds Oxalates (Eat This Instead) One of the comments below about oxalates triggering AF. I'm 50 and did Keto about 3 years ago, overloaded on oxalates as you describe above. I ate Keto for about 12 months, by the end of that period, ended up in hospital 3 times with heart arrhythmia's AF and VF. These episodes would last up to an hour, almostby Todd - GENERAL HEALTH FORUM
Quotetindellery Thank you for your feedback. I was really hoping to avoid any procedures, as I'm quite terrified of all of that. I have had beta blockers and channel blockers prescribed and have only used the beta blocker a few times and it didn't seem to make any difference except it kept my heart rate down a bit while in afib. If Flecainide was working, why did you decide on an ablatiby Daisy - AFIBBERS FORUM
Another tip from GeorgeN that has helped me and others – stay away from calcium! For me it promotes PACs.by Daisy - AFIBBERS FORUM
Quotemjamesone Thanks. Good to know. Curious why you're still taking Diltiazem as your last ablation was a success? From what I've read -- and personal experience -- it's one of the weaker calcium blockers for bp control only, say versus Amlodipine, which I take. What dose are you on and what is your bp on and off of it, assuming that's why you're taking it. For BP conby Carey - AFIBBERS FORUM
Thanks. Good to know. Curious why you're still taking Diltiazem as your last ablation was a success? From what I've read -- and personal experience -- it's one of the weaker calcium blockers for bp control only, say versus Amlodipine, which I take. What dose are you on and what is your bp on and off of it, assuming that's why you're taking it. Jimby mjamesone - AFIBBERS FORUM
Hi, sorry about your situation with Afib, but I have never heard of D Ribose having any effect on it at all. As far as cardioversion, are you taking an anticoagulant? They will not do an electrical conversion unless you have been on one for about three weeks. Otherwise they would have to do a transesophageal echocardiogram to check for clots. They would probably do a chemical conversion though thby Daisy - AFIBBERS FORUM
QuoteMeganMNThe doctor is thinking it is related to the nocturnal increase in vagal tone and nocturnal variations in potassium/calcium/sodium responses that is the culprit, although there is little consensus in what to do about it Here is a thought—I have Dysautonomia and saw an automatic specialist for years. Testing showed very high vagal tone. He prescribed Strattera which increases norepiby Daisy - AFIBBERS FORUM
I've had an Integrative Medicine doc check my cortisol levels at four times throughout the day/night and they were not measurably off. It is obviously something hormonal or related to vagal tone. I do also experience it with stressful events but not all the time, more so in the evening than the daytime. This was an interesting read: The doctor is thinking it is related to the nocturnaby MeganMN - AFIBBERS FORUM
Me, I can't add any electrolytes to my diet. Magnesium in any form triggers me. Yogurt will constipate and the calcium will trigger me. I gastro enterologist says I have IBS-C and there's not much I can do besides live with it. Bummer. Haha I just made a funny. But seriously poly works for me.by Shiny Sleeves - AFIBBERS FORUM
thanks for your advice! I will know to prepare better next time I travel. I ended up getting some Dulcolax at a pharmacy in Seville and it worked for me and did no harm to my heart. I've always had bowl movement delay when traveling, but this time is different. Not only there was a delay but also extremely hard despite of eating plenty of vegetables and fruits and yogurt. The only differeby Yuxi - AFIBBERS FORUM
The disorder is progressive by nature. It is always best to get robust intervention early. I have had several cardioversions. One of those lasted 16 hours, the last only took 20 whole minutes and I was back in AF, still in the hospital. My first ablation failed inside of six otherwise blissful days. I, too, was placed on amiodarone. I asked why not Flecainide or Sotolol, or the commonlyby gloaming - AFIBBERS FORUM