QuoteCarey Unlikely that warfarin will fall out of favor. It already has. Warfarin prescriptions in the US have declined 43% since 2010, with all of that decline being replaced by NOACs. I'm not saying it will go away completely -- it won't -- but it's rapidly falling out of favor. It may be cheap, but the testing requirements, length of time required to stabilize, and variabiby jpeters - AFIBBERS FORUM
QuoteCarey \ Most likely Eliquis or one of the other NOACs. Warfarin has largely fallen out of favor except for certain patients who have other issues that require warfarin. Check out the many posts on the board regarding side effects, pros and cons, and then make your own decision. Many cardiovascular groups have warfarin clinics dedicated to monitoring your dosage. It's not a "onby jpeters - AFIBBERS FORUM
QuoteElizabeth Many of these "modern wonderful meds have caused lots of problems for people Judging from their breakouts this week, no problems for shareholders anyway.by jpeters - AFIBBERS FORUM
QuoteCarey It simply became the example of the drugs vs. supplements debate above. Supplement: "something that completes or enhances something else when added to it."by jpeters - AFIBBERS FORUM
Carey, getting a little off topic here. If you're getting a watchman, and you are told to take aspirin, that's what you take. Okay? If I want to try to improve the outcome after looking at some studies by combining with a supplement, I'd be interested.by jpeters - AFIBBERS FORUM
QuoteCarey What I expect is drug manufacturers to meet FDA manufacturing requirements I repeat my primary question a third time: What makes supplements better than aspirin? “The virginity was lost in ’92,” said Dr. Jerry Avorn, a professor at Harvard Medical School. “Once you have that paying relationship, it creates a dynamic that’s not a healthy one.” The side affects of aspirin aby jpeters - AFIBBERS FORUM
Carey, you can count on pharm to be pure and thinking of you. " In 2014 Bayer bought MSD's consumer business, with brands such as Claritin, Coppertone and Dr. Scholl's. Its BayerCropscience business develops genetically modified crops and pesticides." "Bayer was founded in Barmen in 1863. It was part of IG Farben, the world's largest chemical and pharmaceuticalby jpeters - AFIBBERS FORUM
QuoteCarey . It's also not counterfeited, nor contaminated with heavy metals and pesticides Chinese factories don't bother screening for in supplements. Now Foods 3997 Reviews Now Foods Reviews 4.7 (out of 5) "Founded in 1968, Now Foods is one of the country's most respected names in healthy living supplements. Located in Bloomingdale, Illinois, Now's state-of-theby jpeters - AFIBBERS FORUM
from Chris Kresser: Natural Alternatives: Pycnogenol, "which is also referred to as pine bark extract, French maritime pine bark extract, at a dose of about 100 mg a day. It’s been shown to reduce platelet aggregation as effectively as aspirin without increasing the risk of bleeding, and it actually even has a prolonged action time, so it works over a longer period of time than aspby jpeters - AFIBBERS FORUM
QuoteCarey I've long been convinced that the war on fats is the biggest man-made public health disaster of the 20th century. "Cholesterol lowering drugs are BIG business. The pharmaceutical industry earns billions of dollars every year, and they are very clever to keep the big cholesterol myth alive." "LDL transports cholesterol from the liver to the body. If your LDLby jpeters - AFIBBERS FORUM
QuoteElizabeth Where are your clinical trials on Alzheimers and aspirin? l The quote came out of the article you posted. I didn't bother to check the references.by jpeters - AFIBBERS FORUM
QuoteElizabeth Then why do doctors recommend aspirin after a person has a heart attack? My mother was on Coumadin and had bleeding from her gastrointestinal. The truth is most drugs suck and have side effects, so I guess we pick our poison. liz At least for afib it didn't appear to decrease strokes, according to a presentation I attended at Alta Bates Hospital. That wouldn'by jpeters - AFIBBERS FORUM
QuoteElizabeth Aspirin, it still works “Second, clinical trials of aspirin have already been performed in patients with Alzheimer’s disease. The drug had no beneficial effects on outcome measures and was associated with an increased risk of gastrointestinal hemorrhage.” Doesn't seem to work for preventing strokes, eitherby jpeters - AFIBBERS FORUM
QuoteCarey If anything goes wrong at that kind of speed on a bike, you're going to get hurt. Ha...Also if you live in a more urban area and someone decides to turn left while your in the intersection (Been there....).by jpeters - AFIBBERS FORUM
QuoteCarey stroke risk is decreased by over 90%. 90% better than being on an anti-coagulent? I'd be happy with no increased risk Edit: Which might be hard, given other CHADS risks unrelated to AFIB that are now left unprotected.by jpeters - AFIBBERS FORUM
QuoteCarey The 45 day period was chosen because that's how long it takes for your heart to endothealize over the device, which eliminates the device thrombus risk. The antiplatelet therapy is continued for six months out of an abundance of caution. I'll be interested in comparisons following the six months. Be great if there is no increased risk when taken off all protective therapby jpeters - AFIBBERS FORUM
QuoteCarey Or you do like I'm doing, get an LAA occlusion device, and forget about anticoagulants forever. I hope you're correct on that, and wish you the best. Conclusions: Thrombus formation on LAA occlusion devices was relatively frequent and was strongly associated with a higher risk of ischemic stroke on follow-up. edit: I thought of a conservative approach..by jpeters - AFIBBERS FORUM
QuoteCarey Unless you have other factors that give you a really high CHADS score or you've had your LAA isolated, I don't think 48 hours is anything to worry about. It's a trivial increased risk. So after an LAA isolation, how do you proceed with a surgery?by jpeters - AFIBBERS FORUM
QuoteCarey You should know that their clinical experience has been that missing even just a dose or two can and does lead to strokes for people with isolated LAAs.. That's pretty scary...because it's so removed from circulation that it won't dissolve, even if on thinners?by jpeters - AFIBBERS FORUM
Quotetobherd Does CHADS score come into play if you've had a successful (Dr. Natale) LAA isolation ablation and have had no Afib for 5 years? Is there a reason for this score? When I googled it, it always came up as being tied to Afib...so if you don't have it anymore, is it relevant? Barb You get a point for being a woman, then more points for being older (>64 =1, <74 =2by jpeters - AFIBBERS FORUM
QuoteGeorgeN The fastest way to reduced blood pressure is multiday water fasts. Note: Considered dangerous for people with "arrhythmias (especially atrial fibrillation)."by jpeters - AFIBBERS FORUM
QuoteGeorgeN I convinced my EP, who wanted me to just stay in afib, to prescribe flecainide on demand. What???by jpeters - AFIBBERS FORUM
I thought having an ablation was an alternative to meds, but you're still on a lot of them.by jpeters - AFIBBERS FORUM
QuoteSueChef Thanks everyone, for the input! Normally, I don't mind "renting" food b/ c to my way of thinking, it means fewer calories (please, don't anyone enlighten me that I'm wrong about that! LOL) Okay, but ultimately the truth never hurts! .....Enemas, etc, do NOT mean fewer calories, since the food is already past that stage in the digestive system. Besides, thby jpeters - AFIBBERS FORUM
Thanks Jackie, for now I'll try NK with the MK-7 suppliment (although I would rather take less vs more warfarin). Looks great!by jpeters - AFIBBERS FORUM
QuoteElizabeth I will continue as I have, I work physically hard, eat pretty good and try to stay away from all those meds that the docs are pushing. Liz I attended a conference on dementia, where they quoted correlations between the number of meds (including suppliments) taken and dementia. They pointed out that the hypothalamus continually tries to regulate hormones to med/suppliment intby jpeters - AFIBBERS FORUM
"Based on our clinical experience and judgment, however, we agree that a therapeutic trial of coenzyme Q10, along with other antioxidants, should be attempted. Although individual specialists differ as to the exact drug cocktail, a common approach involves combinations of antioxidants that may have a synergistic effect"by jpeters - AFIBBERS FORUM
Dividing the people hours of those without afib who got strokes with chance (.01), I conclude that people who don't take thinners are 740 times as likely to get strokes, so everyone should be on anti-coagulants.by jpeters - AFIBBERS FORUM
QuoteJackie I didn't learn of the clot until I received the written results about 6 weeks later...and the conclusion was that the Nattokinase had done its job as I was still alive and totally functional... even though the clot was indicated on the CT report, I wasn't notified about it. That convinced me that I could rely on NK. Jackie. I'm not understanding. The Nattby jpeters - AFIBBERS FORUM
QuoteCarey 1-in-25 vs. 1-in-384. And this study wasn't about anticoagulants anyway. Not sure how that became a focus. Conclusion (final sentence): "Guidelines should be updated to advocate continued use of anticoagulants in patients with resolved atrial fibrillation."by jpeters - AFIBBERS FORUM