Jackie, I used Quackwatch because it provides a lot of documentation, but point taken that I committed the same sin you did of citing facts from a dubious source. I'll agree not to use dubious sources if you will. But I promise you that anytime I see Mercola's name cited as a source of anything, I'm going to call it out. I think he's probably the worst scammer in the afib aby Carey - AFIBBERS FORUM
QuoteElizabeth I have been on this site for many years and have noticed that most people need a second and sometimes third Ablation, even if they had Dr. Natale do them. Consider who comes to these forums. It's people new to afib and people who deal with it long-term. Folks who go to Dr. ____ and get a successful ablation get on with their lives and don't bother with afib forums. Andby Carey - AFIBBERS FORUM
Tachycardia isn't really a diagnosis; it simply means a heart rate over 100, so the ER didn't really give you much useful information. There are several possible causes, but the fact that adenosine terminated it means it's almost certainly SVT (supraventricular tachycardia). SVT can often be terminated with vagal maneuvers, so if it happens again you should try that. Some techniquby Carey - AFIBBERS FORUM
That would be a rare side effect for metoprolol. Have you asked your doctor about it? There could be something else going on, but if it is indeed the metoprolol there are several other beta blockers that could be substituted. Whether they would have the same side effect or not would be something you'd just have to find out by trying them. Definitely report this to your doctor.by Carey - AFIBBERS FORUM
QuoteJackie Carey - You're offering mis-information. Mercola is just the messenger. He didn't do the science but rather referenced the study on his website... thus the source link. I most certainly am not. I'm not referring to what you quoted here. I'm referring to Mercola himself. He's a known fraud and has been for many years. Here's a sample: Do youby Carey - AFIBBERS FORUM
QuoteJoyWin I'm pretty sure I;m not going to fall for some quacks supposed truths, Not everyone is as savvy as you. People who are totally new to afib read this forum and have no idea who Mercola is. If links to his site are posted here, they're going to follow them without knowing the author is a known fraud. There's nothing on his site that can't be found on reputable sitby Carey - AFIBBERS FORUM
Potassium is easy to add. A single 12-oz can of low sodium V8 (not regular) packs 1180 mg of potassium. Plenty of other easy ways.by Carey - AFIBBERS FORUM
Eliquis is an anticoagulant. It prevents his afib from causing blood clots that could cause a stroke, so it's absolutely essential, but it does nothing to control the afib. Can he stay on nothing but that? Yes, but if his afib is symptomatic he's not going to be very comfortable. Tell us more about him. How old is he? Is he active and in good health otherwise? Has he tried other meds toby Carey - AFIBBERS FORUM
The first question you should be asking is what your CHADS score is. Maybe you don't need to take anticoagulants at all, or maybe you need to get on them ASAP. You've got to know the answer to that question before you worry about the other stuff.by Carey - AFIBBERS FORUM
I haven't read these yet, and I will, but in the meantime thank you for posting actual science. :-)by Carey - AFIBBERS FORUM
I was asked the question below in another thread, but I felt that if I answered there it would be out of place and few would see it. I think this is a story anyone considering an ablation, and especially anyone considering another ablation, needs to hear. QuoteAnti-Fib Carey: I would be interested in the 6 Ablation story, if you haven't posted before on it. It has been a frequent topic heby Carey - AFIBBERS FORUM
QuoteThe Anti-Fib Carey: I would be interested in the 6 Ablation story, if you haven't posted before on it. It has been a frequent topic here, of trying to get Ablations done successfully, and avoid the scenario of multiple unsuccessful ones. I am thinking that major unresolved underlying issues contribute to this. Also specifically, if you have had any reduction in Atrial contractibilitby Carey - AFIBBERS FORUM
QuoteElizabeth What do you think caused you to have AF? The same thing that causes most people to have AF: genetics. My mother had AF the last 20+ years of her life, and my older sister has been in longstanding persistent afib for about 25 years now. I take after both of them more than I do my father, who did not have afib. Another older sister who takes after him also does not have afib.by Carey - AFIBBERS FORUM
QuoteJackie Carey - If I had the time, I'd go to all the references provided and then copy/paste the published studies references that are on point, but I don't at the moment. Sorry. I saw no references anywhere except books and stuff published on agenda sites. Can you please give me a single example of a peer reviewed study published in a credible journal? Just one? QuoteThus,by Carey - AFIBBERS FORUM
Quotes and books to read, but still no published research. Why do I need to purchase and read entire books? All I'm asking for is some peer reviewed research from a credible source that I don't have to buy somebody's book to read and isn't found on a web site dedicated to pushing an agenda.by Carey - AFIBBERS FORUM
QuoteJackie Carey - Please explain your statement that I cited myself. I am quoting studies by others and previous posts quoting others with the corresponding links provided. Sorry I've confused you. The facts are there. The studies published. The other topic not discussed here is the thermal risks and dangers from these EMF emitting devices. That's a whole other concern. For tby Carey - AFIBBERS FORUM
QuoteElizabeth You said that you had 6 ablations--- that is a lot didn't you do your scientific homework? Yes, I failed spectacularly when it came to the most important homework I ever needed to do. I did a lot -- a hell of a lot more than you can probably imagine, but I ended up being wrong until the very end when I think I finally got it right. I hope you find health without going thby Carey - AFIBBERS FORUM
Do that test 10 more times and see if it holds. I hope you find such an easy solution.by Carey - AFIBBERS FORUM
Jackie, you cited yourself? Really? I'm still waiting for evidence from an objective, peer reviewed source. Why is that hard to find if what you say is true? I'm also waiting for an explanation of why high-energy EMF that we've all been exposed to since before birth is harmless, but low-energy EMF from cell phones and wifi is deadly. That makes no sense whatsoever.by Carey - AFIBBERS FORUM
I don't doubt you when you say it's making noise. All I can suggest about that is complaining to the electric company. There's no reason a meter should make any noise (the one that's been on my house for years doesn't). What I'm skeptical of are the health issues attributed to EMF. That's not a new issue and the consensus of the evidence is that the extremelby Carey - AFIBBERS FORUM
What's less alarming is they found no clinical significance to the lesions. Although the lesions themselves have been detected in other studies, I was unable to find any study showing they had clinical significance. So at this point they appear to be an interesting observation that has no known impact on patients. Will we find out there's a dire consequence 20 years from now? Well, maybby Carey - AFIBBERS FORUM
QuoteElizabeth For your reading pleasure: Liz All these articles are posted on activist web sites that don't even pretend to be objective. They're mostly anecdotal, they almost all contain factual errors, and they like to say their information is backed by peer reviewed studies but they provide no citations for those alleged studies. Why not? Does anyone have anything from a reputby Carey - AFIBBERS FORUM
QuoteElizabeth Mercola is right on this one, there is a lot of stuff on the net about these meters. And a broken clock is right twice a day. If you want to convince me of something, you have to start with sources I will even read and Mercola isn't one of them. I'm serious. He's a proven fraud so I won't bother reading a word he publishes. I know a lot of people who willby Carey - AFIBBERS FORUM
Mercola is a fraud.by Carey - AFIBBERS FORUM
QuoteStarwarsfan How many PACs do you have to have to trigger a fib, or how close together do they have to be? And what causes PACs? A single PAC ultimately triggers the afib so the answer is one. How close they are together probably doesn't matter much. Everyone is different so you're not going to find simple answers that explain how PACs relate to afib. I don't think it'sby Carey - AFIBBERS FORUM
Quotewolfpack I had to drink beer to counter the beta blocker effect of it. No lie. Well now, that was a novel solution. ;-) Vincent, I hate to hijack your question with this side track about propafenone's beta blocking qualities. I think the only safe thing we can tell you is to go ahead and give it a try. Who knows, maybe it will be more effective for you, but it could go the other waby Carey - AFIBBERS FORUM
QuoteGeorgeN Propafenone also has beta-blocking properties Okay, that's news to me so I did some more digging and the answer is as clear as mud. It seems that its beta blocking qualities are easily demonstrated in vitro but not so much in vivo, and in vivo is all that counts. The effect ranges from undetectable to significant and is genetically determined. For example, this is a typical stby Carey - AFIBBERS FORUM
QuoteElizabeth I am Vagal, only get AF at night when resting---I have taken Propafenone (150mg.) every night before bed for about 14 years, my EP has never had me take a AV nodal blocking agent. I have never had any problems such as you have had, perhaps it is because I take a small amount. Yesh, some EPs forego the precaution while others absolutely insist on it. The risk is low, but the conby Carey - AFIBBERS FORUM
Propafanone is a class Ic antiarrhythmic, the same as flecainide, so an AV nodal blocking agent should be given with it to protect against 1:1 conduction. I've experienced 1:1 conduction. Trust me, you don't want to go there. Being of the same class, I wouldn't expect it to perform any better than flecainide. You can try it, but don't be disappointed if it works about the sby Carey - AFIBBERS FORUM
QuoteDavrosT But today I've had premature beats every 20-30 beats for pretty much the whole day. That isn't approximate but seems about average. My HR at the moment is in the low 90s. However, I should point out that I ate a fairly large meal about 45 minutes to an hour ago so my hr could still be a bit high due to that. Over the course of the day, it's averaged out at 86 all day.by Carey - AFIBBERS FORUM