what is the uptake of K from the gut? I don't know, but in general uptake is governed by homeostatic regulation. modulating that regulation may be helpful.by Kwilk - AFIBBERS FORUM
you don't get it and your derailing this this thread, as you do so often and your conflating MAFSI with the spurious data that you're hyping as a 'study' the data may have just been from a beta test of the author's initial draft of the questionnaire why don't you get the thread back on topic and just post a link to a paper that supports your opinion that (zeroby Kwilk - AFIBBERS FORUM
QuoteCarey I was referring to the study you linked to in your first post on this thread. In my top post, link to a MAFSI questionnaire. To substantiate it, I linked to the origin of MAFSI. The origin link was only meant to be that, a citation of the origin. The only point of mentioning anything MAFSI was to substantiate my question. Given the title is prefixed with "Abstract 633"by Kwilk - AFIBBERS FORUM
QuoteCareySo the results Do you have a link?by Kwilk - AFIBBERS FORUM
It'd be useful, especially to new forum members, to have a go-to place to find a member's AF history/journey and related background, a kind of members stories, or introduction, or meet-the-members place.by Kwilk - AFIBBERS FORUM
QuoteKen One year after my 2 ablations, I was back to 100% normal as if I never had a fib. Thanks for sharing your experience. If you've summarized your AF history here, I'd be interested in reading it. Thanks for posting.by Kwilk - AFIBBERS FORUM
QuoteDaisy before my ablation I have pre-syncope, light headedness, shortness of breath, fatigue and limited ability to exercise. Patients are scored before and after.by Kwilk - AFIBBERS FORUM
I think your criteria might be conflated. Failed vs not-failed. Drug vs no-drug explanation. Regarding MAFSI: Score N patients before and after treatment. Histogram the scores. Is the distribution multimodal? If so, look for reasons/correlations. You suggested 2, AF burden reduction and RX matrix. Others might be treatment type (drug vs surgery), type of surgery, ablationby Kwilk - AFIBBERS FORUM
Quotevanlith PAC's would be the big 1 for most i am guessing....for me it has been absol. 0 other things but the Pac's are now under control (a few dozen or so weak 1's a day) since my successful 2018 procedure. So no other symptoms other than PACs (now under control)? What type of AF did you have when you were first diagnosed? If you've summarized your AF journey somewherby Kwilk - AFIBBERS FORUM
QuoteDaisy That abstract is 14 years old Correct, the MAFSI score was created 14 years ago, and is still being used today.by Kwilk - AFIBBERS FORUM
@gloaming ... I happened to still have a pubmed window open with one of the papers: Quotepubmed 2017 Symptom Challenges after Atrial Fibrillation Ablation Fatigue, pre-syncope, palpitations, and trouble sleeping were the most prevalent symptom challenges during the first one to three months post-ablation. At six months, the most prevalent symptoms were palpitations and trouble sleepingby Kwilk - AFIBBERS FORUM
Quotegloaming I'm well under a year from my own procedure <big snip> but it's an interesting topic. Thanks for sharing your experiences. It's hard to sit still. The papers I looked at this morning found many ablatees were still struggling at 6 months and longer, so you are not alone. So I used "1-year" in my top post to take most if not all of the recoveryby Kwilk - AFIBBERS FORUM
If I might ask, what arrhythmias do you have at this point? is it just the atypical flutter?by Kwilk - AFIBBERS FORUM
After one year has passed since a successful 1st ablation, what AF symptoms and procedure-related symptoms persist? In other words, suppose an ablation goes smoothly with no mistakes/complications, and suppose that one year afterwards the patient does not have episodes, nor any other arrhythmia. What other symptoms of their AF might exist 1 year later? Similarly, what iatrogenic symptoms mby Kwilk - AFIBBERS FORUM
In case this is not in the general knowledge base ... QuoteNathanson LA, McClennen S, Safran C, Goldberger AL ecg.bidmc.harvard.edu. ECG Wave-Maven is a recently introduced internet tutorial designed to help develop and maintain electrocardiography reading proficiency. ECG Wave-Maven ECG Wave-Maven article published in: Medical Education Online About 50 of the 500+ examples are AF. Toby Kwilk - AFIBBERS FORUM
QuoteDaisy while autonomic function may change <snip> it seems to be a modification rather than zapping the complete autonomic ganglia. Isn't that conflating the effect/message (ICNS modulation) with mechanism/messenger (ablation). The literature estimates 800+ cardiac ganglia each with between 2 and 1500 somata. After killing off 50, I'd imagine the ICNS function to be modby Kwilk - AFIBBERS FORUM
QuoteElizabeth Kwik you said: I didn't say that, per se. I had meant the italics to indicate it was quote from the clinicaltrials dot gov webpage that I link to. Sorry for the confusion, I've edited my post to make it more clear. QuoteElizabeth Just goes to show you a lot of these researches are off base. I never had diabetes, but I have AF, my husband had diabetes but did not hby Kwilk - AFIBBERS FORUM
QuoteDaisy Dysautonomia Thanks. Do you have an idea of the cause and mechanism of yours? Not sure if the following makes a difference @Daisy, and you certainly know more than me given our AF histories. I'm sure you already know what I meant, but in case not ... The clusters I tried to refer to are part of the local intracardiac nervous system. The cell bodies (and axons and dendrites) ofby Kwilk - AFIBBERS FORUM
QuoteCarey That is correct. Thank you. Any details you can add? Any other changes being worked on? I understand that not only does the antrum afford isolation, but that there are cardiac ANS clusters in the antrum as well, and that part of the effectiveness of the isolation the PV at the antrum is the inescapable/fortuitous killing off of those autonomic clusters.by Kwilk - AFIBBERS FORUM
Thanks. We've a couple Garmin Forerunner 305s that my partner uses for tracking open water distance swimming. They record heart rate via a wireless torso strap. But the HR data isn't embedded in the gpx file. I don't consider a strap option to be appealing. It may just be terminology, but for my purposes the data file really only needs timestamps, doesn't need the calculaby Kwilk - AFIBBERS FORUM
What is the history of PVI? My impression is that in the early days, the ablation was done inside PV. The downside was that it could cause stenosis, restricting blood flow. The lesion site was moved proximal, which reduced stenosis. Now the lesion is essentially on the atrial wall. Is that correct? Any details or correct terminology?by Kwilk - AFIBBERS FORUM
Thanks for filling in some blanks. Sounds like you are taking it in stride. Quotesldabrowski I was told at the time of diagnosis that I had lone AFIB. To this day, still do not know the cause, best conjecture is genetics. If you think it could be genetic, there are about 14 Clinical Trials for listed for "gene therapy" + "atrial fibrillation", here is the link: clinicby Kwilk - AFIBBERS FORUM
Thanks so much. The HUGE benefit of your patience with me is that it has now occurred to me that don't really need to know when/if I am having an arrhythmia episode. I can just use a log of R-R intervals. Granted it won't catch all types of arrhythmia. If I find episodes of high variability in R-R, then at that point, my EP will might order a Holter, or I'd have good footing tby Kwilk - AFIBBERS FORUM
Let me see if I understand. There is one point plotted per beat, where y=60000/L with L being the number of milleseconds since the previous beat? If so, there is no need on my account to dig up the original L data. I can get it from the plot, or just write over the y axis scale, the new values being 60000/yby Kwilk - AFIBBERS FORUM
The consumer device I imagined in the top post would pick up highly variable beat-to-beat intervals after 5-10 beats, then the device would beep. Upon hearing the beep, I'd get a 6L recording, some times missing the episode entirely, sometimes recording 10 seconds of highly variable beat-to-beat, and sometimes recording 30 seconds of it. Your plot is average BPM vs time. Do you have thby Kwilk - AFIBBERS FORUM
QuoteGeorgeNI know not what you are asking The quote from 2017 states that a certain type of study did not exist. I asked if that statement is still correct.by Kwilk - AFIBBERS FORUM
Thanks @Daisy, there is some data on reversal, but not much as far as I found, and none (that I've been able to find yet) regarding how the details of the ablation procedure might help or hinder the reversal. Hope yours goes well.by Kwilk - AFIBBERS FORUM
Thanks, that's quite the journey. So afib started about 1980+- and was treated with meds for 25 years +- Then you had a mini maze. That solved it for 10 years, but towards the end of that you used meds for flutter. Then another year or two on meds for afib and flutter. Then a 2nd ablation somewhere around 2019. Did the second ablation eliminate the afib and the flutter? Iby Kwilk - AFIBBERS FORUM