Researcher: How long has it been since these 2 young men got Ablations? Let's see where there at 5 years down the road before we call it a good decision. I've been quietly informed by several Dr.'s including 2 EP's that those stats are not at all reliable. Alot of propaganda to meet the needs of profit driven corporate Medical system. As for the risk of Stroke, in Ben aby The Anti-Fib - AFIBBERS FORUM
Ben Ja: I agree with Steve, it appears premature to just go for the Ablation this early on. Maybe your instinct are telling you right, but I don't see it based on the info presented. It's not likely that the AFIB will just all the sudden go Persistent. If your AFIB goes for more than a day or so, you could get a Electrocardioversion, to get back into NSR. You wouldn't have tby The Anti-Fib - AFIBBERS FORUM
A main advantage to Cryo, is that its less traumatic to the Heart, that is what my EP said.by The Anti-Fib - AFIBBERS FORUM
I am under the impression that the saying of NSR begets NSR, and AFIB begets AFIB is valid. I think that no matter how NSR is acheived, if it can be maintained for a peroid of time, then AFIB is less likely to reoccur. In other words, whether NSR comes from an Ablation, AAM, or eating 500 cranberries a day, once NSR is in place for awhile, then a patient might not need as much of the original tby The Anti-Fib - AFIBBERS FORUM
Elizabeth Wrote: ------------------------------------------------------- > Anti-Fib > > I was taking Magnesium Gly. that seemed to give me > more problems, a lot of mag. supplements have Mag. > oxide in them. Funny, but my Holistic doctor > believes in Mag. Oxide, he says his patients have > more luck with the oxide. So who is correct, some > of the people on tby The Anti-Fib - AFIBBERS FORUM
Just based on what you listed, as it may be incomplete, I see the first advice from your Cardiologist as the best alternative. Do neither the drugs or an Ablation. Just live with the AFIB (use a rate control drug during episodes if necessary), and keep track of what is causing them. (Trigger Avoidance). Also try the supplementation routine suggested on this site (primarily Mg,Taurine, and K+).by The Anti-Fib - AFIBBERS FORUM
LIZ: Hans's surveys were never large enough to be statistically valid, they were however, better than nothing. No I wasn't kidding about questioning your priority of listening to your Holistic Dr., over posters on here. I don't know your Dr., and your the one who has to make that call, since only you can see them face to face. I made a recovery far better than thought possiby The Anti-Fib - AFIBBERS FORUM
This procedure used to be just called the Total Thoracoscopic Maze Procudure, Later they added the "5-Box" to the title. The older info on the web may be found using the original Title in the search field.by The Anti-Fib - AFIBBERS FORUM
OK, "anomely" was not the right word. I'm just glad I don't have to worry about trying to consume that much Mg.by The Anti-Fib - AFIBBERS FORUM
I looked into Sirak's procedure, and talked with him extensively about 3-4 years ago. At that time the procedure had been done only around 150 or so times. My local EP who keeps up on all the latest developments, cautioned on choosing such a new procedure, saying that the success rates were not proven. Just as Ablation success rates are suspect to propagandous reporting, so was this new pby The Anti-Fib - AFIBBERS FORUM
LIZ: I would try Doctor's Best chelated Mg to "bowell tolerance", then try adding "Waller Water" to that. That is what Hans had originally suggested, and it worked for me. Oxide Works if your wanting the laxative effect of Mg, we want to treat AFIB, not sit on the Pot all day right? I would listen to advice here before a Holistic Dr. How bad was his AFIB anyway?,by The Anti-Fib - AFIBBERS FORUM
Calcium Channel Blocker?by The Anti-Fib - AFIBBERS FORUM
I started out on Coreg, and even at a relatively low dose, of 9mg, it made me real sedated, but my Doctor kept wanting me to take more, and demanded i increase the dosage. I later switched to Bystolic, a cardio-selective BB, and I do well with that, when I need to take a BB.by The Anti-Fib - AFIBBERS FORUM
Peggy and others: Your point is valid, about the 50 or so people in "the list". Alot of herioc and ground-breaking work was done then, before the age of more successfull Ablations. It's seems like the tide has really shifted on this site towards Ablations in the last several years, and I've wondered about shills getting compensated for making Ablation Sales-Pitches onby The Anti-Fib - AFIBBERS FORUM
I take Dr's Best Chelated to bowell tolerance which for me is only 400mg./day. All of the water I drink at home is from the "Waller Water" formula, which comes out to about a Gallon/day for me. As far as I know the optimal level is always what ever you can "bowel tolerate". GHG: Can you describe this "fountain of youth" phenomenom you mentioned? Whatby The Anti-Fib - AFIBBERS FORUM
I think that would in-part depend upon your own particular situation. What is the average response time from the local Ambulance service? How far is it to the nearest Hospital? I personally would rather have someone drive me to a Hospital if it were close, rather than wondering when the EMT's are going to show up. As for the Aspirin question, you could ask that to your own Cardio Dr., sinby The Anti-Fib - AFIBBERS FORUM
Moerk Wrote: ------------------------------------------------------- > By science logic, AF remission, rather than cure, > is from excessive atrial necrosis which is > not consideres\d reversible. Can you rephrase this? Are you saying that AF is caused by Atrial Necrosis, and that is not supposed to be reverseable? That typical Dr. Dogma about AF being a progressive diseaseby The Anti-Fib - AFIBBERS FORUM
Obviously there would be pressure changes in the Heart from changing position. Aside from that, any other symptoms when your fist stand up? Have you checked your BP both lying in bed, and then immediately after rising? (Postural Low Blood Pressure Test). If your BP does not rise slightly when standing up, then you could have Adrenal fatigue/insufficiency. Acute Adrenal insufficiency canby The Anti-Fib - AFIBBERS FORUM
I had a Psycho-Stimulant side-effect from taking Flec, that lasted for the 1st week, then it went away. Maybe give it a few more days, but you don't even know if the Flec is doing any good. Why take it if you have side effects. Since your Ablation is 3 weeks away, just rate control if you get AFIB, generally AFIB symptoms are proportional to how high the rate is.by The Anti-Fib - AFIBBERS FORUM
Good Postby The Anti-Fib - AFIBBERS FORUM
Creatine can effect alot of different things, I noticed a difference in erections with it. I think you are wise to discontinue anything suspicious. The proper functioning of the Heart is the biggest performance booster in the Gym.by The Anti-Fib - AFIBBERS FORUM
The Ejection fraction would only be marginally negatively affected by being in AFIB, as long as the rate control was low enough, and that would be due to lack of "atrial kick", not weakening of the Heart muscle. In other words, AFIB won't cause cardiomyopathy, if proper rate control is maintained.by The Anti-Fib - AFIBBERS FORUM
I stopped creatine because of stomach upset. Wonder if Creatine could increase Vagal Triggering from the stomach area.by The Anti-Fib - AFIBBERS FORUM
GeorgeN Wrote: ------------------------------------------------------- > "vagal LAF rarely if ever develops into a > permanent condition" > > I don't think this is true. That has to be an over-statement. It should be something like "Vagal LAF is less likely to progress into permanentcy"by The Anti-Fib - AFIBBERS FORUM
I think a long time ago Han's did a survey that compared this sort of thing of using Flec PIP in Adrenergic vs. Vagal afibberers. If it was me I wouldn't even take the Flec if I knew I was going to self-convert within 5 hours, not worth the risk of side-effects. I would focus on helping yourself in other ways, like trigger identification/aviodance, or like checking for Sleep Apnea.by The Anti-Fib - AFIBBERS FORUM
How often are you in AFIB? % of ectopics is not that big of a deal, since they are benign, unless they flip you into AFIB. I would try to stabilize the situation, and give Mg supplementation a try for several months, use Mg to bowell tolerance, and also use Mg water (Waller Water). Any sleep Apnea? I am wondering snoring (sleep apnea) could contribute to an enlarged Atrium.by The Anti-Fib - AFIBBERS FORUM
If your 5-hour session of clearing pine wood is out of the ordinary, I would look at that as a culprit. Are you used to the loud stress of a chain-saw? Or is that normal?by The Anti-Fib - AFIBBERS FORUM
Ectopics are benign, unless they progress into AFIB/Arrythmia. Ectopy, (Pac's) is one of the things that have to happen for the AFIB process to start. Sounds like she did a good job, of making sense out of what is going on with your condition, whereas your previous Dr.s had left you with a fragmented and incomplete understanding. I saw one of her presentations on YT, she is a Dr. that it eby The Anti-Fib - AFIBBERS FORUM
Steve: You talk about low Ca+ intake and high Vit D3 intake, as a key. My understanding is that Ca+ is absorbed through the gut based on the levels of Vit D in the body. All the Ca+ necessary for absorption is available from most diets, just that Vit D3 is necessary to absorb it. So high Vit D3, could have actually dramatically increased IC Ca+ levels in your cardiac tissues. The Ca+ sby The Anti-Fib - AFIBBERS FORUM
Que: BB's side effects vary. I use Bystolic which is what they call cardio-selective, meaning that the drug tends to target the receptors of the Heart, and so you less side effects like drowsiness, or legarthy that most BB's produce. Also looking at your posting about your Zio-patch, I don't think your HR is high long enough to warrant major concern for Heart muscle weakeningby The Anti-Fib - AFIBBERS FORUM