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QuoteCarey If I'm understanding well. an ablation is basically either burning or freezing the tissue in the heart that causes the arrythmia, does that mean there is an irregularity of the shape of the tissue then? Not exactly. An ablation is burning or freezing a line of tissue around the source of the afib so it's sort of fenced in. The errant electrical signals from that area canby Marco - AFIBBERS FORUM
QuoteGeorgeN If I'm understanding well. an ablation is basically either burning or freezing the tissue in the heart that causes the arrythmia, does that mean there is an irregularity of the shape of the tissue then? There is a newcomer, pulse field ablation or PFA. Here is a search on our site. I'd start with moderator Shannon's posts here. Read Shannon's posts in rby Marco - AFIBBERS FORUM
QuoteJakeS For some reason, perhaps understandably with the current science, cardiologists seem to want to 'play along' for at least a while. Agree 100%. My situation. First afib in 2017. Seen by the cardio in the ED and I stayed w him as my cardio. Did all the tests. Echo, stress, CT calcium scoring. Subsequently I experienced afib only once a year. Thought the ED was the route goby Marco - AFIBBERS FORUM
QuoteFibberMcGee I started with meds for afib. I finally got an ablation after a couple of years. Looking back, I wish I had just started with the ablation. Get an EP. Just my 2 cents worth. Yes for sure. I have an appt with EP for August 8 already, but the pill in the pocket makes me feel better just in case it happens again, I have something to try until I don't understand what the nexby Marco - AFIBBERS FORUM
wow, this is amazing. Thank you George, I will need to take notes here! QuoteGeorgeN In my post to you here, I mentioned vagal, adrenergic and mixed triggers. Exercise most commonly works (IF it works) for those with vagal triggers. Initially, I converted all my episodes with exercise (including running). This lasted for a couple of months, then I had a 2.5 month episode where it didn&by Marco - AFIBBERS FORUM
I have to say that all of the 3 times I got into Afib there was a stomach component for sure, and I believe to be one of the triggers. The feeling was something was stuck in the stomach/gut. How many of you have looked into their hormones levels, especially cortisol and thyroid. Low stomach acid, and the feeling of the food not passing out from stomach/gut at a normal pace, points out to lowby Marco - AFIBBERS FORUM
I was able today to see a Cardiologist for my Paroxysmal Afib, I was pleased with the office visit, and I was impressed he was the one to mention a Rx for the "pill in the pocket". He first wants to do an echo, stress test and Holter monitor before discussing what would be the right Rx for me for "the pill in the pocket". I don't even think I need to go see an Electrophysby Marco - AFIBBERS FORUM
very interesting about the hair test picking up high calcium. Perhaps some experts out there are right about staying completely away from Calcium. I usually keep my calcium intake about 600mg daily tot, from food and a bit of bone meal. With my magnesium supplementation the ratio goes in favor of magnesium. QuoteGeorgeN That is allot of Magnesium, do you ever check your serum and RBC?by Marco - AFIBBERS FORUM
I just want to thank everyone who left a comment here. This has been already very helpful to me. Thanks for participating in the conversation.by Marco - AFIBBERS FORUM
That is allot of Magnesium, do you ever check your serum and RBC? I checked my Mg RBC after the first time, and it was 4.9 on a scale 4.2-6.8, I supplemented since then (2020) with 400 to 800mg daily, for the past several months or year probably only with 300/400mg at bedtime. I believe there must be a balance between Ca Mg, too much of one can interfere with the absorption of the other. I beby Marco - AFIBBERS FORUM
To my understanding, triggers then are not really the root cause here, they are just the tip of the iceberg. QuoteCarey Incidentally, I'm a big skeptic of triggers. They exist, but most people suck at identifying them. They are way too influenced by coincidences and tend to latch onto them based on a single occurrence. I've seen many people give up things for life that they enjoyby Marco - AFIBBERS FORUM
was perhaps the calcium you were ingesting coming along with casein protein and lactose like you would find in dairy food? were the dairy products raw or pasteurized? I remember seen in the forum last year some concern about calcium intake, but Calcium in the cells does not get overly activated by itself, I believe. Certainly, taking extra Magnesium would almost act as a calcium channel blockeby Marco - AFIBBERS FORUM
I was told when I was in my teens that I had a heart murmur, no longer in my adult life I have been told that by any cardiologist. QuoteDaisy HI Daisy, thank you for your response. could then "this type of fibrosis" be the main reason why the heart goes into AiFib? do we know what cause the fibrosis of the heart muscles and how to reverse it. Another overlooked factor in creatby Marco - AFIBBERS FORUM
Thank you Jeff. I'm certainly a bit confused and a bit scared of living my day since the last time. The first appointment I was able to get with the EP is for August 8. I would feel better If I had those pill in the pocket to try in the case of another event. I'm going to see a cardiologist next Friday, perhaps it will be able to help with that. QuoteJeff W Hi Marco. I understand youby Marco - AFIBBERS FORUM
thank you for the data. Would an eco pick up the fibrosis? QuoteGeorgeN could then "this type of fibrosis" be the main reason why the heart goes into AiFib? do we know what cause the fibrosis of the heart muscles and how to reverse it? Here is a review article on atrial fibrosis from 2017 Here is a rat paper from 2013 where they reversed atrial fibrosis. I'by Marco - AFIBBERS FORUM
HI Daisy, thank you for your response. could then "this type of fibrosis" be the main reason why the heart goes into AiFib? do we know what cause the fibrosis of the heart muscles and how to reverse it? QuoteDaisy do people who are paroxysmal get triggered by different things than those that trigger the other type of AiFib? Paroxysmal just means that you aren’t in Afib alby Marco - AFIBBERS FORUM
thanks. I remember reading some of the list last year. I will need to dig further in those documents for sure. Do people who are paroxysmal get triggered by different things than those that trigger the other type of AiFib? is the book below still the best read on AiFib or you would recommend also something different? QuoteGeorgeN interesting, I assume the vagal/parasympatheby Marco - AFIBBERS FORUM
I understand, thank you for the advise. do you get tachycardia as well with each episode? I'm sorry to hear you had to go through this, 3 times on 3 years were already awful for myself. Quotegloaming Marco, yes, but it was getting more and more ornery with each passing week between the time I had my first ER visit since being diagnosed in 2017 and my first ablation last July. Then,by Marco - AFIBBERS FORUM
interesting, I assume the vagal/parasympathetic has something to do with the Vagus nerve correct? I have been noticing for a long time, even when I hang at the pull up bar, where I like to hang and take 3 very slow and deep breaths, that I'm always working with my lungs to push some impediment I feel right in the center about my stomach, whether my stomach is full or not, I believe. Byby Marco - AFIBBERS FORUM
is or was your type of Aifib paroxysmal? Quotegloaming Marcvo: '..'m assuming the type of cardio training where there is a 30 to 60sec sprint, recover then repeat for several times, may not be the best for us, what do you think?' Aerobic exercise is where you can sustain a pace almost indefinitely. Walking and even running can be aerobic, but as soon as your blood lactaby Marco - AFIBBERS FORUM
Thank you for the info. have you seen anyone else in their 30s doing the procedures you mentioned? I believe the cardiology I have seen last year mentioned the possible ablation as an option to discuss with the electrophysiologist Quotegloaming Yes, if your AF comes and goes, and if it reverts to NSR on its own (even after two or three days [..GULP!..]), it is considered to be paroby Marco - AFIBBERS FORUM
Thank you George, I appreciate very much your response. Good to know there may be some drugs I can try to use to convert at home if I need to. As far as common things before the episodes, the first two times I elevated my heart rate suddenly. The first time by sprinting back home from a walk, and the second with a panic attack. However, this last time I had just finished a simple, short and liby Marco - AFIBBERS FORUM
Last Friday at 11am I got into Aifib for the 3rd time in 3 years. First time in 2020, then 2022 and this year again. The 3 times were all the same, tachycardia with Aifib, completely shocking experience all 3 times. Everything was similar, I go to the ER, they give me some Calcium Channel blocker IV, they wait till my HR lower, they send me home and the next day I convert at home. The second aby Marco - AFIBBERS FORUM
should someone try to convert with exercise if there is tachycardia along with Aifib? or that is for those who get into Aifib at a low HR?by Marco - AFIBBERS FORUM
Quotebettylou4488 I searched the archives and did read thru this one which was very informative. I just got some labs back and my iodine (urine) was 7. The reference range is 34 to 525. My thyroid numbers were fine: T4Free=1.5 TSH =2.47 TH3 = 4.0 I added some kelp seasoning to my breakfast! The doc emailed me the results this weekend and may go get a supplement from him nextby Marco - AFIBBERS FORUM
Perhaps some of you may have already researched the relationship between Thyroid function, adrenals and Aifib. I'm attaching on the page a good article to read on how even lower thyroid function may lead to heart rhythm abnormality, there is actually a booklet written by Hans on Aldosteorne linked to that page. The reason why I'm looking into the possible relationship between lowerby Marco - AFIBBERS FORUM
QuoteGeorgeN It was one of the avenues I approached. I was fit when I got afib. However, I used to wake up hot and sweaty at 3AM. This was also a common time for me to go into afib. I don't have before and afters, however. I got my first afib in 2004 and had a 2 1/2 month episode in the first 4 months. My remission program includes electrolytes, limiting long duration activity to Zoneby Marco - AFIBBERS FORUM
QuoteDaisy This is called Nuclear stress test because they will inject Thallium into my arteries. is this the same procedure anyone has done? I wouldn't be so comfortable having a radioactive metal injected into my arteries, even though it is a small amount.I did this test and a couple years later tested very high in thallium on a heavy metals test a doctor ordered. I’ve treadmill stresby Marco - AFIBBERS FORUM
QuoteCarey Not a fan of nuclear stress tests. Not so much because of the thallium but because of way too many false positives. So that changes my opinion on this. Unless your cardiologist can give you a very compelling reason for doing a nuclear stress test, I would decline. Specifically, what is it they're looking for that a standard stress test wouldn't find? Thank you for makby Marco - AFIBBERS FORUM
I'm wondering if anyone has ever made a connection of being insulin resistance to Aifib, has anyone ever tested their fasting insulin? I have seen some people in the forum going on a Paleo diet or similar, and resolving or improving their Aifib, I'm wondering what was their fasting insulin before and after. there are some studies which strongly associate insulin resistance to aifib,by Marco - AFIBBERS FORUM