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I sleep terribly. A typical night for me is 4 hours, followed by waking, then 2-3 hours of wakefulness then perhaps an hour of very light, dream-filled sleep. I wake feeling extremely groggy. I should also mention it is IMPOSSIBLE for me to nap. Has been my entire life. Even if I am dog-tired in the middle of the day, I can only lay still to the point of the myoclonic "jerk" and thenby wolfpack - GENERAL HEALTH FORUM
The dental anesthetics almost always include some epinephrine (adrenaline) in addition to the -caine drugs (lidocaine, xylocaine, septacaine, etc). That is likely what caused the palpitations. As for the anti-coagulation, yes, do discuss that in detail with your cardiologist. I would think it's important to get on something that you can tolerate in the short term, while you pursue a longeby wolfpack - AFIBBERS FORUM
Aspirin is really no longer recommended as an anticoagulation strategy for afib. I'm surprised, but I don't disbelieve, that Eliquis caused such a severe reaction. Could it have been the antiarrythmic (Flec) or the beta (metoprolol)? You could also ask for another of the anticoagulant drugs such as Xarelto or perhaps Pradaxa. Given your gender and age, anticoagulation is strongly adviseby wolfpack - AFIBBERS FORUM
QuoteCatherine Wolfpack, I am convinced that stress is the root cause of almost all maladies. Stress causes inflammation and inflammation causes disease. What is interesting, though, is how differently we handle stress. Some folk take it into stride and glide right through them; Me? Nope. I'm working on it. Same here. I feel like Atlas sometimes.by wolfpack - AFIBBERS FORUM
QuoteElizabeth Most people have stress at one time or another, yet they all don't get AF. I would say those that get AF have an affinity for AF, their DNA, in their family etc. Liz It also led to panic attacks and dizzy spells outside of the arrhythmia. Basically all kinds of bad things wrapped up in a nasty little box. My body was screaming at me to stop torturing it. To put thingsby wolfpack - AFIBBERS FORUM
QuoteJackie stress depletes magnesium easily and quickly I'm curious. What is the mechanism for stress delpeletion of magnesium? This is certainly my story writ large. Sorry for the technobabble, but in 2015 I was responsible for the design of a critical, high-speed serial interface between microchips in just about all of the Android-based mobile devices. A late shift in the design cyclby wolfpack - AFIBBERS FORUM
QuoteGeorgeN The cardio #2 told me he didn't believe in adrenergic vs vagal. So did my first cardio. He's the one who put me on betas that made the AF worse.by wolfpack - AFIBBERS FORUM
Quoteelo76 Thanks for the replies. So I will try to have a conversation with my cardio on my next appt. If that fails...I got a name of an EP from a guy at work that had an ablation. I just don't understand how a doc could have me on something that is possibly aggravating my condition. As for EPs, seek out the best possible provider that you can find given your situation. Even if thatby wolfpack - AFIBBERS FORUM
Quoteelo76 Should I start with talking with my current doc and bringing up some of the points you guys have discussed or look for an EP? I'm betting he doesn't even know that my afib is vagal. Most of us went the cardiologist route with an EP referral. EPs are more specialized and aren't really a doctor you can check in with routinely. Some cardios don't understand/belby wolfpack - AFIBBERS FORUM
No, I don't know why but I had the same experiences. Perhaps a similar reason as to why heart attacks cause referred pain in extremities? The heart's nerves emerge from the spinal cord very near many others that innervae the thorax and upper body. AF certainly irritates the atria. Maybe that communicates back somehow.by wolfpack - AFIBBERS FORUM
I should mention that the 160lb is a light load for me. I can almost "toss" it up and catch it. Certainly I'm not working to exhaustion. I will NOT do "pyramids", where one steadily increases weight until only 1 or 2 reps can be made. And, George, Dr Coumel's article (which I've read before) describes me TO A TEE. Many say AF is random, but you could'veby wolfpack - AFIBBERS FORUM
All of this makes me wonder if I should stop my toning routine of 3 sets of 10 bench presses at 160lb twice a week. I didn't think that was an awful lot.by wolfpack - AFIBBERS FORUM
The Toprol is a beta blocker, which is a rate control drug. It won't really work to correct the rhythm. It just slows the ventricular response to the fibrillating atria. I wouldn't take too much as it could cause a dangerously low heart rate once you do convert to normal rhythm. Yes, magnesium supplementation is a good idea. Worst thing that happens is loose stools. Bodybuilding mby wolfpack - AFIBBERS FORUM
Hi Greg, 3 weeks post ablation is WAY too early to be drawing conclusions about anything. My heart did everything from PACs to PVCs, triple axels and backflips! It's going to be a minimum of 3 months - maybe even 6 - before things settle enough to infer cause and effect with regards to supplementation. Take it easy on the exercise, too. Bull-headed me jumped on a treadmill 8 days afteby wolfpack - AFIBBERS FORUM
It'll bump mine up from a lethargic 50 to about 75. So, yes, it seriously antagonizes the atrial tissue!by wolfpack - AFIBBERS FORUM
Interesting point on the pesticides on grapes. I wonder, since beer are many liquors are grain-based, how much RoundUp is in those as a byproduct of wheat (and I assume also barley) desiccation? I really only drink imported (German) beer, so I'm hoping they use their domestic grains and ban the practice of desiccation, but I have no way to be sure of that.by wolfpack - AFIBBERS FORUM
Not really. Alcohol is alcohol. The real difference between beer/wine/liquor is just the percent by volume. Liquor is obviously the highest, nearing 40-50%. It's much easier to get seriously dehydrated that way unless one is consuming considerable amounts of water or perhaps Gatorade. I'd wager that most folks don't do that and thus suffer the ill effects associated with the ethanoby wolfpack - AFIBBERS FORUM
Yes it is possible. The morning of my ablation (I had discontinued propafenone two or three days prior per instruction), I was in AF with an average ventricular rate of 55 bpm. I still have the AliveCor rhythm strip somewhere. I counted a 2.5 second pause between beats. That does get one's attention, let me tell you!by wolfpack - AFIBBERS FORUM
Glen, You are still in the "blanking period", which is the 3 month period immediately following the ablation procedure. During this time, you can bet there is still residual swelling (edema) in the atrial tissue. In lay terms, it's really irritated. Alcohol compounds that irritation and will almost invariably trigger pounding beats or even PACs. If you want to repeat the beer exby wolfpack - AFIBBERS FORUM
Interesting. His numbers put it on par with a CT as well. CT must be higher power, shorter duration. Last time I had a CT the machine was set at 80 kV and 10 mA, so 800 W. That's a small microwave oven. A quick search says a CT is around 14 mGy. To work backwards, a Grey is a joule per kilogram, so multiply by mass (I'm going to guess 40 kg for the chest and abdomen), then 560 mJ = 40 kby wolfpack - AFIBBERS FORUM
We all know the ablation procedure is chiefly guided by fluoroscopy - basically a continuous X-ray through your chest for such time as is necessary to complete the lesion set(s). My question is, what's the long term risk associated with this level of radiation? How does that risk change for multiple procedures ("touch-up" ablations)? Using myself as an example - my cath report sby wolfpack - AFIBBERS FORUM
I had up to 3 second pauses while in AF. Mine was weird I suppose, being VERY vagal in nature. When I would convert I'd stop feeling anything, which always spooked me into checking a radial or temporal pulse to make sure something was there!by wolfpack - AFIBBERS FORUM
In addition to being cardiotoxic and magnesium shedding, alcohol is also vagolytic, meaning it interrupts the impulses from the vagus nerve that work to slow the heart rhythm. This imbalance between sympathetic and parasympathetic input to the heart results in the increased rate. Your HR and respiration also get out of sync and may lead to mild hypoxia and concomitant adrenaline release. This isby wolfpack - AFIBBERS FORUM
I could always feel the AF getting "lighter", for lack of a better word. Then, after a minute or so I'd no longer sense any "flops" and I'd check my radial pulse to find NSR. If I counted 10 regular beats in a row then I knew I was back in rhythm. Confirmed by AliveCor more often than not.by wolfpack - AFIBBERS FORUM
Best as I can tell, the AliveCor algorithm looks heavily at the R-R interval. The actual P-wave is easily lost in the "noise", quite literally as the device communicates with the smart phone or tablet using ultrasonics (microphone). As such, it is EXTREMELY sensitive to background noise, especially white noise like wind. In my opinion, it would be much more reliable if it used Bluetoothby wolfpack - AFIBBERS FORUM
If it doesn't cause problems, enjoy the grape juice!by wolfpack - AFIBBERS FORUM
Amiodarone is a bit of an outlier as anti-arrhythmic meds go. It isn't cleared renally (by the kidneys), so it builds up in the body's tissues - everywhere. It takes time to do this, which is why the hospitals start with IV and then switch to pills. It's faster. Since it builds up everywhere, some side effects can be a bluish hue to the skin or whites of the eyes. The real dangeby wolfpack - AFIBBERS FORUM
The antiarrythimcs that slow conduction in the left atrium can have the adverse effect of being proarrythnic for flutter circuits in the right atrium. Without a Holter monitor, though, that'd only be a guess as to what might've happened. The really scary scenario would be a ventricular arrhythmia. I've never had one of those, thank God, but from what I gather you would probably havby wolfpack - AFIBBERS FORUM
I narrowly avoided two today. Seems they are quite abundant this year in NC. Question in regards to AF. What would be the potential effect in an AF patient (even former)? What treatment should one seek, if any? Normally I'd just ignore it and deal with the pain, but I haven't had the pleasure of being bitten since AF. And we are up to our eyeballs in the things it would seem. I hateby wolfpack - GENERAL HEALTH FORUM
It'll take anywhere from 1 month to maybe even a year. I'd wager more like 3 months, though. Remember an ablation is done with 40 watts of radio frequency energy in the pencil-sized tip of a catheter. So, basically we all got the insides of our hearts "branded" with a soldering iron. That causes swelling. Imagine if you drew a line around your arm or leg with a hot iron. How lby wolfpack - AFIBBERS FORUM