Study on AFib as a cause of stroke in paroxysmal individuals October 05, 2021 01:22PM |
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Brian_og
Interesting study relating AFib events in paroxysmal individuals to stroke. Pretty much nails down that AFib is a cause of stroke as well as a marker. Also a discussion of pill in the pocket as a method for anticoagulation since the risk seems to attenuate quickly some days after the event.
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GeorgeN
If I had more than a minimal (<=2) CHA₂DS₂-VASc, I personally would not rely on NK. Aspirin is not a preferred choice for afib either. Not that I think NK is bad, I just would not rely on it. I recall a number of years ago, when Shannon had a TIA, he was on 300 mg /day in three 100mg divided doses.
Re: Study on AFib as a cause of stroke in paroxysmal individuals October 06, 2021 08:48PM |
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colindo
I wonder under the circumstance if Shannon would have had a TIA no mater what anti-coagulate he used?
I would like to know what the Romanian lady was taking, if anything?
I have never seen any comparisons between nattokinase and other anti-coagulates.
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Re: Study on AFib as a cause of stroke in paroxysmal individuals October 07, 2021 02:07AM |
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Carey
I wonder under the circumstance if Shannon would have had a TIA no mater what anti-coagulate he used?
I would like to know what the Romanian lady was taking, if anything?
I have never seen any comparisons between nattokinase and other anti-coagulates.
I think it's likely he would not have suffered the TIA. Hindsight, of course, and impossible to know for sure, but the effectiveness of the anticoagulants is known and quite high.
As for the comparisons, yeah, that's the big problem. There are no good comparisons between nattokinase and other anticoagulants, so we just can't know how effective it actually is. Show me a couple of large, well designed, randomly controlled trials comparing nattokinase to Eliquis that show it's at least non-inferior, and I would be willing to pay almost as much for it if it was in proven dosage and purity of formulation. Get FDA approval on it and insurance coverage, and I'd be willing to pay equally as much.
Re: Study on AFib as a cause of stroke in paroxysmal individuals October 07, 2021 06:40AM |
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colindo
Just to turn things around a bit, You seem to be inferring that nattokinase is inferior to Eliquis, that may be so but where is the proof, who can say for sure? can you?
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Re: Study on AFib as a cause of stroke in paroxysmal individuals October 07, 2021 06:13PM |
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colindo
Just to turn things around a bit, You seem to be inferring that nattokinase is inferior to Eliquis, that may be so but where is the proof, who can say for sure? can you?