Staying out in front of afib? November 29, 2019 09:14AM |
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Re: Staying out in front of afib? November 29, 2019 05:24PM |
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Yes, it's totally realistic. What's also realistic is the possibility you'll never need another ablation. An ablation that's still fully effective a year later is generally considered permanent for life and doesn't ever "wear out." However, afib is a progressive disease so it's possible that you could develop new sources of afib later in life that are outside the areas isolated by the ablation, and that's what has happened when you hear about someone needing another ablation years later, but there's no reason to expect that to happen.
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What exactly does "afib is progressive" mean?
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What exactly does "afib is progressive" mean?
It means that as you get older the underlying disease can slowly get worse. For example, maybe when you had an ablation at 60 there were ectopic signals coming only from the area directly around your pulmonary veins, but now that you're 75 there are ectopic signals coming from other areas of your heart that are outside the "fence" created by the ablation to contain the pulmonary veins. The result is you have afib again. It's not that the original ablation failed -- it didn't -- it's just that the cause has progressed beyond its original bounds.
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Re: Staying out in front of afib? November 30, 2019 01:46AM |
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I asked because so many of us have been told our hearts are in great shape. i understood that to mean they could not see anything that caused the Afib. If you can't see anything, what is progressing? (sorry to sound clueless )
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Elizabeth
Too bad they can't figure out what is causing AF and cure it, everything is slash and burn.
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Liz, great point, not just with afib, but all conditions. Not that Im against treatment, but at times it seems the experts get lost in their quest for the latest and greatest med and devote little time to researching the cause.
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Elizabeth
George;'
I was able to read the full article, going to the site you posted then you can find the whole article, very long. I wonder if they are doing anything more.
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George, Why have you never had a Ablation to tame the AFIB BEAST instead of the strict regiment you seem to religiously adhere to? Most could not follow the program you have developed and tweaked as necessary.Quote
GeorgeN
Too bad they can't figure out what is causing AF and cure it, everything is slash and burn.
How to slow or stop progression has been a question I've asked myself for over 15 years, even though I created a program for myself that has very low AF burden following a 2.5 month episode in the beginning. I've never stopped tweaking and looking at what else I could do. Not that I have the answer, but my approach is to optimize everything I can in my health, as I understand what this means (which could be wrong). Even looking at mitochondrial function as these guys did (unfortunately the full article is behind a paywall) <[www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov]
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Carey
I asked because so many of us have been told our hearts are in great shape. i understood that to mean they could not see anything that caused the Afib. If you can't see anything, what is progressing? (sorry to sound clueless )
You don't sound clueless at all. This isn't simple stuff.
It's hard to explain any better than I did last time because it's not fully understood what causes afib in the first place, but today the best treatment is to put a fence around the cells in your heart that are causing the problem. That fence lasts a lifetime when done right. But sometimes as we age new cells can begin misbehaving. If those cells happen to be outside the fence created by your ablation, you might have afib again.
That's progression. They see it by simply seeing that you have afib again years after a successful ablation.
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George, Why have you never had a Ablation to tame the AFIB BEAST instead of the strict regiment you seem to religiously adhere to? Most could not follow the program you have developed and tweaked as necessary.
I admire your personal drive and high expectations but My little pea brain says let modern technology work its magic.
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Elizabeth
George:
The only way I got on was to google the article, it came up and I tapped on the address shown and it took me there, it is an old address and no longer being used I guess.
Liz
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