IM Magnesium Sulphate Injections

Hi all,

Does anyone here know - either from experience or otherwise - how much Magnesium Sulphate in mmol in each injection one requires for an effective course on IM Mag injections (10 weeks in the first instance in my own case)?? My doctor is saying 1 mmol is all I can have each time (one per week) but I'm sure that that figure should be more like 2 or 2.5mmol per injection. Any input would be greatly appreciated as I currently feel that neither my (albeit VERY helpful) doctor or I quite know how we should be tackling this!

TIA,

Mike

Hi all,
Not that anyone thankfully has so far, but please don't respond as I've now gleaned the info that I require (-:
Mike

Hi Mike,

Good that you came up with the required info! I wish you success! Anyway, thought it might be a good excuse to re-post the following wisdom of Alan Gaby, MD, MSc. It is magnesium based IV, not IM, but can be administered in a willing doctor's office via syringe. Dr. Gaby always reminded us that nutrients work best as a team.

Good luck! Erling
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From: 'Preventing and Reversing Osteoporosis' by Alan R. Gaby, MD, MS (biochemistry):
Copyright 1994 by Alan R. Gaby, MD. Prima Publishing. ISBN 1-55958-298-7

From page 41: "This combination of injected nutrients was popularized by the late John Myers, MD, of Baltimore, Maryland, whose patients taught it to me after his death. I have used a modification of the "Myer's Cocktail" with great success for other conditions .... I have presented information on intravenous nutrient therapy at medical seminars during the past eight years ... A brief discussion of the indications and administration of intravenous nutrients is presented in Appendix A."

APPENDIX A: INTRAVENOUS VITAMIN AND MINERAL PROTOCOL

"A description of how I use intravenous vitamins and minerals in my medical practice follows. This information is intended for physicians. Several thousand physicians in the United States are mow using this type of treatment in their practice. For many patients, intravenous nutrient therapy is more effective than any other treatment they have tried.

Materials:

Magnesium chloride hexahydrate 20% ... 2 - 5 cc
Calcium glycerophosphate ............. 2 - 5 cc
Hydroxocobalamin (1,000 mcg/cc) ...... 1 cc
Pyridoxine hydrochloride (100 mg/cc).. 1 cc
Dexpanthenol (250 mg/cc) ............. 1 cc
B-complex 100 ........................ 1 cc
Vitamin C (222 mg/cc) ................ 1 -30 cc

Draw up nutrients into one syringe and inject slowly over 5 to 15 minutes, through a 25G butterfly needle.

Precautions:

This solution is hypertonic and occasionally causes pain at the site of injection. This can be avoided by diluting the injection 50% with sterile water. Most patients experience warmth during the injection. Too-rapid administration of magnesium can cause a brief period of hypotension, which can be severe. Patients with low blood pressure tend to tolerate less magnesium. When administering this treatment to a patient for the first time, it is best to give 0.5 to 1.0 cc and then wait 30 seconds or so before e proceeding with the rest of the injection. Start with lower doses for elderly or frail individuals.

In patients at risk for hypokalemia, such as those taking certain diuretics, beta-agonists, or corticosteroids, or patients with diarrhea, serum potassium should be measured and hypokalemia should be corrected before administering this treatment. When in doubt, give 20 - 25 mEq of potassium orally at the time of the injection, and repeat 4 to 6 hours later. I have administered more than 10,000 intravenous nutrient injections. When these precautions were followed I have not seen any serious side effects.

Indications:

Chronic fatigue, including chronic fatigue syndrome
Chronic depression
Acute or chronic muscle spasm; fibromyalgia
Acute or chronic asthma
Acute or chronic urticaria (hives)
Allergic rhinitis
Congestive heart failure
Angina
Ishemic vascular disease
Acute infections
Senile dementia

Notes:

Individuals with severe allergies sometimes react to the preservatives in the injectable products. The most common reactions are headaches, fatigue, or "spaciness". I have not seen a reaction severe enough to require administration of adrenaline. On patients with cardiac arrhythmias, calcium should probably not be included. For asthma or urticaria , 10 to 30 cc of vitamin C and double doses of pyridoxine, dexpanthenol, and vitamin B12 (hydroxocobalamin) may be given.

For infections and allergic rhinitis, 10 to 30 cc of vitamin C are used. In some patients the treatment works better if vitamin B12 is given intramuscularly in a separate syringe. It is not clear whether this is due to the short half-life of intravenously administered vitamin B12, or whether vitamin B12 interacts with some other component of the injection."

Still thought a comment was indicated.

In 2004 after a physical competition I won in Russia[ my age division] I was found by accident to have AFIB which I had never noticed so I don't know when it started. How could it happen to someone so healthy and fit? A great injustice.

I made lots of changes[ without going into details] but checking my red blood cell magnesium it was very low, below the normal range. I gobbled down quality magnesium supplements. It remained low.

I read about injections and thought why not? I had them in 2.5 s every couple of weeks. My magnesium went up quite quickly. Now I don't have injections but my magnesium remains about the middle of the normal range.

My afib has now disappeared for four years but I maintain my dietary and physical activities.

So at nearly 76 no problems but I remain vigilant.

Here is my added point.

My opinion which I have stated many times in the forum is people do not look at their weight exercise and diet remotely near sufficiently.

But injections can be a good start and are much simpler than discipline

Alex