Anti coagulation shows no benefit in Preventing a second stroke Interesting article. It does also discuss AFIB "grey zone". Article does not discuss first stoke prevention. [www.medscape.com] https://www.afibbers.org/forum/read.php?9,196396,196396#msg-196396 Mon, 20 Apr 2026 03:30:33 +0000 Phorum 5.2.23 https://www.afibbers.org/forum/read.php?9,196396,196503#msg-196503 Re: Anti coagulation shows no benefit in Preventing a second stroke https://www.afibbers.org/forum/read.php?9,196396,196503#msg-196503
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This is very interesting. Excuse me if I am being naive. If the risk of hemorrhagic stroke a greater while on an anticoagulant and the anticoagulant doesn’t prevent a recurring stroke what is the benefit?

The statement that the anticoagulant doesn't prevent a recurring stroke is probably wrong. See my first comment in this thread.]]> Carey AFIBBERS FORUM Fri, 28 Jun 2024 00:45:06 +0000 https://www.afibbers.org/forum/read.php?9,196396,196499#msg-196499 Re: Anti coagulation shows no benefit in Preventing a second stroke https://www.afibbers.org/forum/read.php?9,196396,196499#msg-196499 Dini AFIBBERS FORUM Thu, 27 Jun 2024 20:29:07 +0000 https://www.afibbers.org/forum/read.php?9,196396,196470#msg-196470 Re: Anti coagulation shows no benefit in Preventing a second stroke https://www.afibbers.org/forum/read.php?9,196396,196470#msg-196470 Carey AFIBBERS FORUM Tue, 25 Jun 2024 03:12:10 +0000 https://www.afibbers.org/forum/read.php?9,196396,196467#msg-196467 Re: Anti coagulation shows no benefit in Preventing a second stroke https://www.afibbers.org/forum/read.php?9,196396,196467#msg-196467
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No, PH does not mean you have CHF. CHF is its own diagnosis with its own symptoms, causes, and diagnostic criteria.

Well, then it does not seem to me I warrant being a three with the Chads Vasc score just because he put me on Farxiga to help left heart disease to prevent the heart wall from thickening and stiffening more. Other than my mild pulmonary hypertension, I warrant a point for high blood pressure being on meds for that & for my age, and that’s it.]]> Madeline AFIBBERS FORUM Tue, 25 Jun 2024 01:31:33 +0000 https://www.afibbers.org/forum/read.php?9,196396,196459#msg-196459 Re: Anti coagulation shows no benefit in Preventing a second stroke https://www.afibbers.org/forum/read.php?9,196396,196459#msg-196459 Carey AFIBBERS FORUM Mon, 24 Jun 2024 03:11:57 +0000 https://www.afibbers.org/forum/read.php?9,196396,196454#msg-196454 Re: Anti coagulation shows no benefit in Preventing a second stroke https://www.afibbers.org/forum/read.php?9,196396,196454#msg-196454
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I would consider 3 or above to be high, but I don't think HFpEF would be considered congestive heart failure. Ask your doc how they would score it.

Hi Carey, This is why I asked as I don't think in black & white like my cardiologist who goes by the numbers. I feel more like a 2 is what I would have. He gave me the 3 just bec he put me on Farxiga for the left heart diastolic dysfunction giving me PH, I presume, presume meaning the CV score of 3 bec of Farxiga, not bec of my type of PH.

I am doing great & have only mild PH, group 2 with no changes since my R. ht cath in 9/2023 & numbers at that time were only borderline. I just had a TTE (transthoracic echocardiogram) & it was relatively the same with regard to PH. The only change was that my EF had fluctuated from 60-65 down to 50-55, but other parameters of TR (tricuspid valve regurg) was mild to moderate & estimated RVSP was the same at ~48 (i assume the same means since my right heart cath Sept 2023).

When I ordered a booklet from the Pulmonary Hypertension Association, it explained a lot to me in simpler terms. I had no idea there were many types of PH. Mine is group 2 & there are 5 types. I don't think every kind of PH means you already have CHF, hopefully.]]> Madeline AFIBBERS FORUM Sun, 23 Jun 2024 23:16:06 +0000 https://www.afibbers.org/forum/read.php?9,196396,196445#msg-196445 Re: Anti coagulation shows no benefit in Preventing a second stroke https://www.afibbers.org/forum/read.php?9,196396,196445#msg-196445 Carey AFIBBERS FORUM Sun, 23 Jun 2024 15:41:57 +0000 https://www.afibbers.org/forum/read.php?9,196396,196444#msg-196444 Re: Anti coagulation shows no benefit in Preventing a second stroke https://www.afibbers.org/forum/read.php?9,196396,196444#msg-196444
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A shame the study didn't match for CHADS-Vasc scores. I think that would likely be a big part of the explanation. People on anticoagulants very likely also had higher scores and that would tilt the results toward no benefit for the ACs.

And what Chad’s score do you consider high? I am a 3 now and I am on the low-dose Eliquis as extra protection. As a reminder though, I will say that the last thing that moved me from a 2 to 3 was starting Farxiga for very borderline, minor pulmonary hypertension. But because I have some left sided heart disease with HFpEF, I guess that means I am under the category of congestive heart failure even though it seems minor to me, especially at my age. Don’t know how long it takes for something as minor as what I have now progress to something serious.]]> Madeline AFIBBERS FORUM Sun, 23 Jun 2024 14:47:34 +0000 https://www.afibbers.org/forum/read.php?9,196396,196400#msg-196400 Re: Anti coagulation shows no benefit in Preventing a second stroke https://www.afibbers.org/forum/read.php?9,196396,196400#msg-196400 Carey AFIBBERS FORUM Fri, 21 Jun 2024 00:14:56 +0000 https://www.afibbers.org/forum/read.php?9,196396,196396#msg-196396 Anti coagulation shows no benefit in Preventing a second stroke https://www.afibbers.org/forum/read.php?9,196396,196396#msg-196396


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