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        <title>did I really have afib and do I need to worry about it now?</title>
        <description> A year ago my mom&amp;#039;s Kardia showed afib one time for me which eventually led to me getting an ablation 6 months ago but as I review everything I&amp;#039;d like to have the opinion of those here.  I&amp;#039;ve since learned from the afib nurse and EP doc that the kardia can be aggressive on showing afib but that my initial diagnosis for afib was based on a kardia reading not from the Zio patch.

I wore a Zio patch for 13 days pre-ablation and it did not show afib but did indicate junctional rhythm, SVTs and other arrythmias:
[drive.google.com]

Post ablation Zio patch did not show afib either but did indicate junctional rhythm, SVTs and SVEs:
[drive.google.com]

3 weeks after my ablation I was told to stop taking the beta blocker but remained on eliquis until 5 months post-ablation. 

My current diagnosis is that I have a long first degree AV block with P-R interval of 180 which should be less than 120, weak to non-existent P-waves, and sometimes go into junctional rhythm.  I also have occasional pulmonary vein triggers which are not improved by ablation.

I am supposed to take a beta blocker if my heart rate is over 150bpm for over 2 hours (which never came close to happening pre-ablation).  And take a baby aspirin daily.

I generally don&amp;#039;t have any symptoms and feel fine but wonder if I should get a 2nd opinion.  My worry wart mother thinks I need to see someone else and thinks the ablation didn&amp;#039;t do anything whereas I want to be cognizant if something changes but not worry about it otherwise.  I have fewer arrythmias now so I think the ablation was beneficial though I wasn&amp;#039;t having many before.

I am indebted to forum member George for giving me private advice and interpreting many EKGs for me.</description>
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            <title>Re: did I really have afib and do I need to worry about it now?</title>
            <link>https://www.afibbers.org/forum/read.php?9,199204,199415#msg-199415</link>
            <description><![CDATA[ Per TomR&#039;s comment, here is the recipe for &quot;Waller Water.&quot;  [<a href="https://www.afibbers.org/Wallerwater.pdf"  rel="nofollow">www.afibbers.org</a>]  I have also consumed it undiluted or less diluted as I require more Mg++.<br />
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The first <a href="https://www.afibbers.org/forum/read.php?9,198836,198854#msg-198854"  rel="nofollow">link </a>  has a link to a huge set of posts done by the late Erling Waller on his magnesium bicarbonate water (i.e. WW).<br />
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In this <a href="https://www.afibbers.org/forum/read.php?9,151073,151090#msg-151090"  rel="nofollow">post</a> by engineer ghg, the tinyurl link goes to a large document he created on magnesium acetate (which I&#039;ve prepared as well), which is supposed to convert to magnesium bicarb in the body.  Also note how he got his RBC magnesium levels up.]]></description>
            <dc:creator>GeorgeN</dc:creator>
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            <pubDate>Thu, 01 May 2025 14:27:19 +0000</pubDate>
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            <title>Re: did I really have afib and do I need to worry about it now?</title>
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            <description><![CDATA[ Rayfes - I have been taking Waller water which has magnesium for the past few months and have seen a big improvement in my afib. It took about 2-3 months to show improvement but it was very evident. I also take taurine since I don&#039;t eat that much meat, plus I take nattokinase which reportedly can breakdown blood clots. I expect you may have already gotten a lot of useful info from George; he shared notes on his afib journey with me.]]></description>
            <dc:creator>TomR</dc:creator>
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            <pubDate>Wed, 30 Apr 2025 05:52:51 +0000</pubDate>
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            <title>Re: did I really have afib and do I need to worry about it now?</title>
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            <description><![CDATA[ Thanks Susan.  I don&#039;t think my P-R issue was caused by my ablation but it wasn&#039;t improved by it either.  I&#039;m looking for another EP cardiologist to see but have discovered I say I&#039;m looking for a 2nd opinion that they won&#039;t see me so I guess I guess I have to say something else.]]></description>
            <dc:creator>rayfes</dc:creator>
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            <pubDate>Tue, 11 Mar 2025 20:46:34 +0000</pubDate>
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            <title>Re: did I really have afib and do I need to worry about it now?</title>
            <link>https://www.afibbers.org/forum/read.php?9,199204,199237#msg-199237</link>
            <description><![CDATA[ Thanks for the response Gloaming.  I&#039;m not familiar with RVR but will look into it.  I don&#039;t know if the ablation did anything but I do feel like I have fewer of whatever arrythmias types I have.<br />
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My CHA2DS2-VASc score could be 0 or up to 2 since I had mild hypertension for a lengthy period of time (but not now).  I also have a high calcium score (88.2).]]></description>
            <dc:creator>rayfes</dc:creator>
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            <pubDate>Tue, 11 Mar 2025 20:44:20 +0000</pubDate>
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            <title>Re: did I really have afib and do I need to worry about it now?</title>
            <link>https://www.afibbers.org/forum/read.php?9,199204,199209#msg-199209</link>
            <description><![CDATA[ You wrote:<br />
<i>My current diagnosis is that I have a long first degree AV block with P-R interval of 180 which should be less than 120,</i> <br />
<br />
During my first ablation it was terminated suddenly because of an unanticipated P-R. <br />
<br />
What area of the heart while being ablated can cause this?<br />
<br />
Did your ablation cause your P-R issue?]]></description>
            <dc:creator>susan.d</dc:creator>
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            <pubDate>Mon, 10 Mar 2025 16:44:18 +0000</pubDate>
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            <title>Re: did I really have afib and do I need to worry about it now?</title>
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            <description><![CDATA[ The heart can literally break into multiple arrhythmias, but I don&#039;t think it generally does this concurrently.  I guess it&#039;s possible to have flutter in the right atrium while the left is fibrillating...?...and why not.  You are familiar with RVR, rapid ventricular response?  That isn&#039;t an arrhythmia, just a &#039;sympathetic&#039; tachycardia while the left atrium is going crazy above it.<br />
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It does sound to me, on the basis of what you have revealed, that you may have been mis-diagnosed.  The pre and post ECG show the long interval and block, so what did the ablation treat?  <br />
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Your last diagnosis is technically an arrhythmia, but if it doesn&#039;t involve slow-circulating blood in the left atrial appendage, I would have to conclude that you don&#039;t need a DOAC. However, we know little else about you.  Your CHA2DS2-VASc score that deals with other potential risks is a cumulative score that generally rises with age and with &#039;problems&#039; like comorbidities.  If you google &#039;CHA2DS2-VASc calculator&#039;, you&#039;ll find online fill-in-the-blanks calculators where you can, if you&#039;re scrupulously honest about the inputs, derive a very close approximation of your risk score.  From there, you would want to be on a DOAC if your score is 2 or higher.]]></description>
            <dc:creator>gloaming</dc:creator>
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            <pubDate>Mon, 10 Mar 2025 16:39:59 +0000</pubDate>
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            <title>did I really have afib and do I need to worry about it now?</title>
            <link>https://www.afibbers.org/forum/read.php?9,199204,199204#msg-199204</link>
            <description><![CDATA[ A year ago my mom&#039;s Kardia showed afib one time for me which eventually led to me getting an ablation 6 months ago but as I review everything I&#039;d like to have the opinion of those here.  I&#039;ve since learned from the afib nurse and EP doc that the kardia can be aggressive on showing afib but that my initial diagnosis for afib was based on a kardia reading not from the Zio patch.<br />
<br />
I wore a Zio patch for 13 days pre-ablation and it did not show afib but did indicate junctional rhythm, SVTs and other arrythmias:<br />
[<a href="https://drive.google.com/file/d/1suHIebo6dANn1n-qUheHk5tsFFqWaPMg/view?usp=sharing"  rel="nofollow">drive.google.com</a>]<br />
<br />
Post ablation Zio patch did not show afib either but did indicate junctional rhythm, SVTs and SVEs:<br />
[<a href="https://drive.google.com/file/d/15NUgg5ZusMxflrZ_3_ZM-4PwcQIaEZvC/view?usp=sharing"  rel="nofollow">drive.google.com</a>]<br />
<br />
3 weeks after my ablation I was told to stop taking the beta blocker but remained on eliquis until 5 months post-ablation. <br />
<br />
My current diagnosis is that I have a long first degree AV block with P-R interval of 180 which should be less than 120, weak to non-existent P-waves, and sometimes go into junctional rhythm.  I also have occasional pulmonary vein triggers which are not improved by ablation.<br />
<br />
I am supposed to take a beta blocker if my heart rate is over 150bpm for over 2 hours (which never came close to happening pre-ablation).  And take a baby aspirin daily.<br />
<br />
I generally don&#039;t have any symptoms and feel fine but wonder if I should get a 2nd opinion.  My worry wart mother thinks I need to see someone else and thinks the ablation didn&#039;t do anything whereas I want to be cognizant if something changes but not worry about it otherwise.  I have fewer arrythmias now so I think the ablation was beneficial though I wasn&#039;t having many before.<br />
<br />
I am indebted to forum member George for giving me private advice and interpreting many EKGs for me.]]></description>
            <dc:creator>rayfes</dc:creator>
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            <pubDate>Mon, 10 Mar 2025 15:52:37 +0000</pubDate>
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