Sleepless I am at my wits end. I have been prescribed Multaq to try for the Atrial Tachycardia, but I have to wait about ten days to start because of insurance issues. I used to be able to take Propranolol to help me sleep because it toned down the SVT intensity. I barely sleep anymore because I wake up in constant tachycardia, bigeminy, etc. For those that dont know, my episodes are almost exclusively at night. I am so tired. Does anyone have any recommendations for sleep? I have tried all the usual things, but nothing has helped. I go to sleep fine, but I just wake up constantly because of the fast rhythm. I am trying to be patient, but it has seriously been over a year since I slept well... https://www.afibbers.org/forum/read.php?9,194499,194499#msg-194499 Thu, 10 Sep 2026 00:30:34 +0000 Phorum 5.2.23 https://www.afibbers.org/forum/read.php?9,194499,194870#msg-194870 Re: Sleepless https://www.afibbers.org/forum/read.php?9,194499,194870#msg-194870 gloaming AFIBBERS FORUM Wed, 28 Feb 2024 19:59:00 +0000 https://www.afibbers.org/forum/read.php?9,194499,194864#msg-194864 Re: Sleepless https://www.afibbers.org/forum/read.php?9,194499,194864#msg-194864 Carey AFIBBERS FORUM Wed, 28 Feb 2024 04:00:45 +0000 https://www.afibbers.org/forum/read.php?9,194499,194863#msg-194863 Re: Sleepless https://www.afibbers.org/forum/read.php?9,194499,194863#msg-194863
In the case of MeganMN, I may not be as helpful at this point, as it sounds like your heart situation needs some resolution first. When you get that resolved, you may still have difficulty sleeping (hopefully not), because your brain is now conditioned to see your bed as a place you DON'T sleep - such as the case with Susan D. You may have some predisposing factors that make you a little prone to insomnia (like being a light sleeper), but then have some precipitating factors that trigger a bout of insomnia (like your tachycardia, Afib, reactions to medications), and finally, it often becomes perpetuating factors (things that keep insomnia going in the long run). It's the perpetuating factors that I can help my clients with.

If you want to reach me, you can email me at ToBHerd [at] gmail.com and I can let you know if I think I can help.

Sorry you are struggling with getting quality sleep. There is hope! ~ Barb]]> tobherd AFIBBERS FORUM Wed, 28 Feb 2024 03:12:28 +0000 https://www.afibbers.org/forum/read.php?9,194499,194643#msg-194643 Re: Sleepless https://www.afibbers.org/forum/read.php?9,194499,194643#msg-194643
I never had an issue falling asleep. I would hit the pillow and be out. Then in 2004 I started flecainide and stayed up as late as 5am and took cat naps. Now I'm off most drugs except cardizem and Eliquis and still I can't sleep.

I suggest starting a lifetime of controlled substance sleeping tablets.]]> susan.d AFIBBERS FORUM Wed, 14 Feb 2024 23:56:37 +0000 https://www.afibbers.org/forum/read.php?9,194499,194564#msg-194564 Re: Sleepless https://www.afibbers.org/forum/read.php?9,194499,194564#msg-194564
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I wish there was a way to send scripts to people that need them. I have several jars of multaq that never got opened.

I've donated unused meds to friends. In fact, one person here. Just keep the communications private. Nobody is going to prosecute you for mailing drugs to a friend as long as they're not controlled substances.

Yes, even some of our doctors will sometimes do this with sealed bottles. Throwing away unopened, expensive medications that others could use, just doesn’t seem right. It is also toxic to the environment!]]> Daisy AFIBBERS FORUM Sun, 11 Feb 2024 21:38:25 +0000 https://www.afibbers.org/forum/read.php?9,194499,194560#msg-194560 Re: Sleepless https://www.afibbers.org/forum/read.php?9,194499,194560#msg-194560
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I wish there was a way to send scripts to people that need them. I have several jars of multaq that never got opened.

I've donated unused meds to friends. In fact, one person here. Just keep the communications private. Nobody is going to prosecute you for mailing drugs to a friend as long as they're not controlled substances.]]> Carey AFIBBERS FORUM Sun, 11 Feb 2024 19:35:30 +0000 https://www.afibbers.org/forum/read.php?9,194499,194558#msg-194558 Re: Sleepless https://www.afibbers.org/forum/read.php?9,194499,194558#msg-194558 have had a nighttime SPO2 study that was negative for sleep apnea, but not a full sleep study.

Given your only at night episodes, I would think sleep study in a sleep lab would be your logical next step

Jim]]> mjamesone AFIBBERS FORUM Sun, 11 Feb 2024 19:07:55 +0000 https://www.afibbers.org/forum/read.php?9,194499,194556#msg-194556 Re: Sleepless https://www.afibbers.org/forum/read.php?9,194499,194556#msg-194556
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I wish there was a way to send scripts to people that need them. I have several jars of Multaq that never got opened.

I feel the same way about my unopened bottle of Eliquis. It seems like such a shame.....]]> MeganMN AFIBBERS FORUM Sun, 11 Feb 2024 17:31:34 +0000 https://www.afibbers.org/forum/read.php?9,194499,194552#msg-194552 Re: Sleepless https://www.afibbers.org/forum/read.php?9,194499,194552#msg-194552 KingFizzy AFIBBERS FORUM Sun, 11 Feb 2024 15:25:11 +0000 https://www.afibbers.org/forum/read.php?9,194499,194550#msg-194550 Re: Sleepless https://www.afibbers.org/forum/read.php?9,194499,194550#msg-194550 MeganMN AFIBBERS FORUM Sun, 11 Feb 2024 11:26:39 +0000 https://www.afibbers.org/forum/read.php?9,194499,194548#msg-194548 Re: Sleepless https://www.afibbers.org/forum/read.php?9,194499,194548#msg-194548
I have had an extensive cortisol test done and it wasnt overly out of whack. I occasionally work the late shift and go to sleep around 3am. It seems to kick in around 7-8pm regardless, although I have not tried to stay up late for multiple days in a row. It seems independent of sleep, though. I will look into all of your suggestions and certainly try the ginger!! Thank you so much. You have such a wealth of knowledge.]]> MeganMN AFIBBERS FORUM Sun, 11 Feb 2024 04:22:39 +0000 https://www.afibbers.org/forum/read.php?9,194499,194515#msg-194515 Re: Sleepless https://www.afibbers.org/forum/read.php?9,194499,194515#msg-194515
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George, are you using fresh ginger or ginger supplement?

At the time I was doing this, in 2012 & 2013, I was generally using organic powdered ginger spice.]]> GeorgeN AFIBBERS FORUM Fri, 09 Feb 2024 21:55:34 +0000 https://www.afibbers.org/forum/read.php?9,194499,194514#msg-194514 Re: Sleepless https://www.afibbers.org/forum/read.php?9,194499,194514#msg-194514
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This is a search on the site on all posts with ginger in them. Note, some people had negative experiences with ginger.

My thought is that the ginger would raise sympathetic tone and since your issues are in the evening, presumably when sympathetic tone is lower, perhaps ginger, taken before your episodes typically start in the evening, might ward off the episode. Also member Jackie warned about using ginger sourced from China because of potential contamination.
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Jim]]> mjamesone AFIBBERS FORUM Fri, 09 Feb 2024 18:18:53 +0000 https://www.afibbers.org/forum/read.php?9,194499,194511#msg-194511 Re: Sleepless https://www.afibbers.org/forum/read.php?9,194499,194511#msg-194511 Carey AFIBBERS FORUM Fri, 09 Feb 2024 15:54:16 +0000 https://www.afibbers.org/forum/read.php?9,194499,194510#msg-194510 Re: Sleepless https://www.afibbers.org/forum/read.php?9,194499,194510#msg-194510
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Does anyone have any recommendations for sleep?

One thing that works pretty well for me are listening to yoga nidra scripts. Don't know if your heart feelings would impact the efficacy. I have tiny mp3 player with earbuds that I use.

"Yoga Nidra is a form of guided meditation also known as “yogic sleep” or “effortless relaxation”. It’s usually practiced lying down with a teacher guiding the session. The practice draws our attention inwards, and we learn to surf between the states of wakefulness and sleep, where our body finds its natural state of equilibrium (homeostasis) – the breath balances and becomes quiet, unconscious and conscious aspects of the mind reveal themselves, and we fall into an innate state of deep, blissful awareness."

If you have any interest, I can link more info.


Completely different, in 2012 I was having a lot more afib (for me). It was associated with a divorce & I thought it was divorce stress, but later figured out it was likely calcium from me stress eating wheels of brie. I quit the brie and my afib control went back to my excellent pre divorce level. In any case, at one point I had afib 4 nights in a row and a cardio suggested I take flecainide chronically instead of PIP. I did and it worked, but I wanted to titrate it down as much as I could. Our site's founder, Hans Larsen, had posted on using ginger for vagal afibbers. I decided to try it, taking it before bed as I titrated the flec down. Hans had me write an article on my experience in "The Afib Report." It worked pretty well, not as good as the flec, but was not a med. This is a search on all of my posts that include ginger. I titrated the flec down to 0 over a month, while taking the ginger before bed. I continued to use it for another 5 or so months, till I came up with the idea that calcium from brie (I ate no other dairy or concentrated form of calcium), and successfully tested it.

This is a search on the site on all posts with ginger in them. Note, some people had negative experiences with ginger.

My thought is that the ginger would raise sympathetic tone and since your issues are in the evening, presumably when sympathetic tone is lower, perhaps ginger, taken before your episodes typically start in the evening, might ward off the episode. Also member Jackie warned about using ginger sourced from China because of potential contamination.]]> GeorgeN AFIBBERS FORUM Fri, 09 Feb 2024 13:47:45 +0000 https://www.afibbers.org/forum/read.php?9,194499,194505#msg-194505 Re: Sleepless https://www.afibbers.org/forum/read.php?9,194499,194505#msg-194505 Daisy AFIBBERS FORUM Thu, 08 Feb 2024 16:16:50 +0000 https://www.afibbers.org/forum/read.php?9,194499,194499#msg-194499 Sleepless https://www.afibbers.org/forum/read.php?9,194499,194499#msg-194499 MeganMN AFIBBERS FORUM Thu, 08 Feb 2024 04:38:45 +0000