Please share Covid Treatment Strategies for those who take Flecainide and Thinners Turned out to be a false alarm, but had a bit of a Covid exposure scare last week. The question I posed to myself was how would I treat Covid should I have tested positive, which fortunately I didn't. The medical consensus for treating the current strain is Paxlovid, Remdesivir Infusion and Molnupiravir, in that order, assuming you qualify and want to treat. But the problem with Paxlovid is that it's definitely contraindicated with Flecainide and somewhat with Eliquis. And while I'm not on daily Flecainide or Eliquis, should I go into afib, Flecainide is my PIP and I start taking Eliquis. Alternatively, I could just lower my rate with Diltiazem, but then I'd be in afib for an indeterminate amount of time without the protection of Eliquis. I finally decided that the Remdesivir infusion was my best choice, but wondering how the rest of you deal or plan to deal with a Covid episode if you take Paxlovid and/or thinners. Thanks. https://www.afibbers.org/forum/read.php?9,194284,194284#msg-194284 Tue, 25 Aug 2026 10:55:06 +0000 Phorum 5.2.23 https://www.afibbers.org/forum/read.php?9,194284,194351#msg-194351 Re: Please share Covid Treatment Strategies for those who take Flecainide and Thinners https://www.afibbers.org/forum/read.php?9,194284,194351#msg-194351
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Make sure your Vitamin D level is optimal. You could consider Quercitin as a prophylactic. There are studies that support it as an antiviral. You could also take a Zyrtec/Claritin and Pepcid to prevent the cytokine storm that is what made people so ill. Budesonide as an inhaled steroid is approved as an outpatient treatment. Remdesivir is not nevessarily supported as an outpatient treatment. Keep in mind that 50% of trial subjects died that were given Remdesivir. What makes people so sick. IMHO, is the inflammation and cytokine storm, which can be mitigated by Histamine blockers (Colchicine/Claritin, Pepcid, etc) and other supportive treatments. Just my 2 cents worth.

worth a lot more than 2 cents :)-D]]> Joe AFIBBERS FORUM Thu, 25 Jan 2024 00:24:37 +0000 https://www.afibbers.org/forum/read.php?9,194284,194301#msg-194301 Re: Please share Covid Treatment Strategies for those who take Flecainide and Thinners https://www.afibbers.org/forum/read.php?9,194284,194301#msg-194301
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. The only way to ban a topic is to delete all the posts. I wasn't going to sift through hundreds of posts trying to filter out crazy from sane and then have to defend every decision. Sorry if some of your posts got caught up in that but what would you have done if you were in our shoes?

It's unfortunate, but I would have done the same thing.


Jim]]> mjamesone AFIBBERS FORUM Wed, 24 Jan 2024 17:05:38 +0000 https://www.afibbers.org/forum/read.php?9,194284,194300#msg-194300 Re: Please share Covid Treatment Strategies for those who take Flecainide and Thinners https://www.afibbers.org/forum/read.php?9,194284,194300#msg-194300
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Carey you deleted most all posts regarding Covid from 10/21 going back to the spring of 2020 on this forum as well as the GHF, even though they did not violate forum rules at the time they were posted, and even including sourced posts directly related to Cardiology/Arrhythmia's. I stand behind the posts I made.

I did not delete topics here. I deleted from the GENERAL HEALTH forum, NOT here. And they're not even actually deleted. I moved them to a separate forum that only admins can see that's reserved for deleted posts, and I see nothing there that came from this forum. We did this because the GH forum had become a cesspool of anti-vax, anti-science, conspiracy theories, people calling for Fauci to be imprisoned, and QAnon insanity. We had long-time members coming to us threatening to leave over it (at least one did), and even physician lurkers emailing us asking what had happened to this site. It was downright embarrassing. So the decision was made that the only way to get it back on track was to delete all the COVID and vaccine hysteria and prohibit those topics in the GENERAL HEALTH forum. The only way to ban a topic is to delete all the posts. I wasn't going to sift through hundreds of posts trying to filter out crazy from sane and then have to defend every decision. Sorry if some of your posts got caught up in that but what would you have done if you were in our shoes? This site doesn't exist to debate vaccines and evil Big Pharma and how much doctors, the FDA and the CDC suck. It exists to provide peer support to people with afib and similar arrhythmias. This site has always been open to alternative approaches, but it isn't open to anti-science rants and crazy conspiracy theories.

As I said, there are no banned topics in THIS forum and nothing was deleted here.]]> Carey AFIBBERS FORUM Wed, 24 Jan 2024 16:41:37 +0000 https://www.afibbers.org/forum/read.php?9,194284,194299#msg-194299 Re: Please share Covid Treatment Strategies for those who take Flecainide and Thinners https://www.afibbers.org/forum/read.php?9,194284,194299#msg-194299
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Remdesivir is not nevessarily supported as an outpatient treatment. Keep in mind that 50% of trial subjects died that were given Remdesivir .

The CDC supports Remdesivir at outpatient infusion centers as a second option, should you qualify, right after Paxlovid. (See link below)

The trial you refer to sounds like hospitalized patients probably on ventilators, unvaccinated, early in the pandemic with more virulent strains, who were going to die with or without Remdesivir.

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Jim]]> mjamesone AFIBBERS FORUM Wed, 24 Jan 2024 15:51:59 +0000 https://www.afibbers.org/forum/read.php?9,194284,194297#msg-194297 Re: Please share Covid Treatment Strategies for those who take Flecainide and Thinners https://www.afibbers.org/forum/read.php?9,194284,194297#msg-194297 susan.d AFIBBERS FORUM Wed, 24 Jan 2024 09:51:46 +0000 https://www.afibbers.org/forum/read.php?9,194284,194296#msg-194296 Re: Please share Covid Treatment Strategies for those who take Flecainide and Thinners https://www.afibbers.org/forum/read.php?9,194284,194296#msg-194296
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Carey

This topic was banned in 10/21, so people will be hesitant to respond.

It was banned only on the General Health forum, not here. The post explicitly said this:

If you have a question or comment about any of those subjects that's relevant to atrial arrhythmias or cardiology in general, please direct them to the AFIBBERS forum.

Nothing has ever been banned from this forum.

Carey you deleted most all posts regarding Covid from 10/21 going back to the spring of 2020 on this forum as well as the GHF, even though they did not violate forum rules at the time they were posted, and even including sourced posts directly related to Cardiology/Arrhythmia's. I stand behind the posts I made.]]> The Anti-Fib AFIBBERS FORUM Wed, 24 Jan 2024 07:20:13 +0000 https://www.afibbers.org/forum/read.php?9,194284,194294#msg-194294 Re: Please share Covid Treatment Strategies for those who take Flecainide and Thinners https://www.afibbers.org/forum/read.php?9,194284,194294#msg-194294 MeganMN AFIBBERS FORUM Wed, 24 Jan 2024 05:19:24 +0000 https://www.afibbers.org/forum/read.php?9,194284,194293#msg-194293 Re: Please share Covid Treatment Strategies for those who take Flecainide and Thinners https://www.afibbers.org/forum/read.php?9,194284,194293#msg-194293
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Didn't realize this was a banned topic

It is not.]]> Carey AFIBBERS FORUM Wed, 24 Jan 2024 04:04:15 +0000 https://www.afibbers.org/forum/read.php?9,194284,194292#msg-194292 Re: Please share Covid Treatment Strategies for those who take Flecainide and Thinners https://www.afibbers.org/forum/read.php?9,194284,194292#msg-194292
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This topic was banned in 10/21, so people will be hesitant to respond.

It was banned only on the General Health forum, not here. The post explicitly said this:

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If you have a question or comment about any of those subjects that's relevant to atrial arrhythmias or cardiology in general, please direct them to the AFIBBERS forum.

Nothing has ever been banned from this forum.]]> Carey AFIBBERS FORUM Wed, 24 Jan 2024 04:01:14 +0000 https://www.afibbers.org/forum/read.php?9,194284,194291#msg-194291 Re: Please share Covid Treatment Strategies for those who take Flecainide and Thinners https://www.afibbers.org/forum/read.php?9,194284,194291#msg-194291
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As for the Flec, if your using it as PIP only, than the most of the Flec will wash out of your system within days.

First, thanks for responding. Didn't realize this was a banned topic, but hopefully it will be allowed it we stick to drug interactions only and not the other controversial stuff.

As to your response, the last time I had Covid it threw me into afib. So the concern is having to take my PIP dose of Flec while on Paxlovid and also still not sure if I would be allowed the Eliquis during that time period as well.

Jim]]> mjamesone AFIBBERS FORUM Wed, 24 Jan 2024 03:33:45 +0000 https://www.afibbers.org/forum/read.php?9,194284,194290#msg-194290 Re: Please share Covid Treatment Strategies for those who take Flecainide and Thinners https://www.afibbers.org/forum/read.php?9,194284,194290#msg-194290 GeorgeN AFIBBERS FORUM Wed, 24 Jan 2024 03:03:13 +0000 https://www.afibbers.org/forum/read.php?9,194284,194289#msg-194289 Re: Please share Covid Treatment Strategies for those who take Flecainide and Thinners https://www.afibbers.org/forum/read.php?9,194284,194289#msg-194289 The Anti-Fib AFIBBERS FORUM Wed, 24 Jan 2024 01:23:15 +0000 https://www.afibbers.org/forum/read.php?9,194284,194288#msg-194288 Re: Please share Covid Treatment Strategies for those who take Flecainide and Thinners https://www.afibbers.org/forum/read.php?9,194284,194288#msg-194288
Good to prepare now, but odds are you won't need all that intervention. You would probably need to use the Eloquis, and fit any other treaments around that and have options prepared for, but waiting and seeing how things develop in the event of an infection. As for the Flec, if your using it as PIP only, than the most of the Flec will wash out of your system within days.]]> The Anti-Fib AFIBBERS FORUM Wed, 24 Jan 2024 01:22:50 +0000 https://www.afibbers.org/forum/read.php?9,194284,194284#msg-194284 Please share Covid Treatment Strategies for those who take Flecainide and Thinners https://www.afibbers.org/forum/read.php?9,194284,194284#msg-194284
The question I posed to myself was how would I treat Covid should I have tested positive, which fortunately I didn't.

The medical consensus for treating the current strain is Paxlovid, Remdesivir Infusion and Molnupiravir, in that order, assuming you qualify and want to treat.

But the problem with Paxlovid is that it's definitely contraindicated with Flecainide and somewhat with Eliquis. And while I'm not on daily Flecainide or Eliquis, should I go into afib, Flecainide is my PIP and I start taking Eliquis. Alternatively, I could just lower my rate with Diltiazem, but then I'd be in afib for an indeterminate amount of time without the protection of Eliquis.

I finally decided that the Remdesivir infusion was my best choice, but wondering how the rest of you deal or plan to deal with a Covid episode if you take Paxlovid and/or thinners.

Thanks.]]> mjamesone AFIBBERS FORUM Tue, 23 Jan 2024 17:46:02 +0000