persistent AF question I get AF every couple months or so and usually no more than 8hrs. Started it in 2011 when stupid dr overdosed my thyroid meds. Just curious if I should expect to end up in persistent AF eventually? Mainly asking because I am scheduled for a surgical procedure this month but would prefer to do it early summer but a relative told me I should get it done now while not always in AF which I understand but not expecting it to happen :( I guess if persistent it would be dangerous to stop the Eliquis so couldn't have surgery. Otherwise will be just stopping it for a few days while hopefully not in AF. https://www.afibbers.org/forum/read.php?9,194065,194065#msg-194065 Mon, 21 Sep 2026 22:51:19 +0000 Phorum 5.2.23 https://www.afibbers.org/forum/read.php?9,194065,194098#msg-194098 Re: persistent AF question https://www.afibbers.org/forum/read.php?9,194065,194098#msg-194098 susan.d AFIBBERS FORUM Tue, 09 Jan 2024 11:33:46 +0000 https://www.afibbers.org/forum/read.php?9,194065,194093#msg-194093 Re: persistent AF question https://www.afibbers.org/forum/read.php?9,194065,194093#msg-194093
I had Graves Disease a number of years ago and had my Thyroid nuked (didn' t know any better in those days). I still have some thyroid tissue left and I have to take a Thyroid pill. I do make a lot of soups making my broth from either soup bones or chicken, glad it worked for you, never heard that before.

Liz]]> Elizabeth AFIBBERS FORUM Tue, 09 Jan 2024 04:54:34 +0000 https://www.afibbers.org/forum/read.php?9,194065,194079#msg-194079 Re: persistent AF question https://www.afibbers.org/forum/read.php?9,194065,194079#msg-194079
Boil up a pot of water and add poultry necks-either chicken or Turkey. Add a teaspoon of white vinegar and boil for a few hours. An instant pot will work.

Refrigerate and when cold strain out the fat and add seasoning and veggies or whatever you add to broth.

Since having his neck broth soup my thyroid tests are normal.

My mom who had afib and also thyroid issues, never drank the broth and had to take thyroid drugs that increased her afib episodes.

Try it for a month (one cup or two a day) and get tested again and see if it helps.
The broth freezes well. I bought a restaurant size soup pot and use Souper cubes to freeze and stack.]]> susan.d AFIBBERS FORUM Mon, 08 Jan 2024 08:11:11 +0000 https://www.afibbers.org/forum/read.php?9,194065,194075#msg-194075 Re: persistent AF question https://www.afibbers.org/forum/read.php?9,194065,194075#msg-194075
I first went into AF in 1996, I was paraoxymal, like you, the first years I would only go into AF a few times a year. I always went back in NSR without any drugs that went on until I started getting AF more often, so the doctor put me on Propapanone that was good until abut 3 years ago, like you, my doctor felt OK with my thyroid, my TSH was very, very low and I went into AF and didn't come out of it. So now I am in permanent AF. I never had an ablation, you and I have thyroid problems, too much or not enough can put us into AF, George has not had to deal with his Thyroid.
It is a hard decision to make, to ablate or not, a lot of people have to have more than one ablation. But, since you have thyroid problems and AF, you will probably always have AF problems.

Liz]]> Elizabeth AFIBBERS FORUM Mon, 08 Jan 2024 02:37:34 +0000 https://www.afibbers.org/forum/read.php?9,194065,194067#msg-194067 Re: persistent AF question https://www.afibbers.org/forum/read.php?9,194065,194067#msg-194067
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Just curious if I should expect to end up in persistent AF eventually?

Hard to predict. Everybody is different. 19.5 years ago, I started out with 6-9 hours every 10-14 days for 2 months (ish), then I had an episode that lasted 2.5 months. I converted that with a loading dose of flecainide and implemented a plan that I created and the EP approved that I've basically followed since. My current afib burden is 0.05% or less. In the last year, I've had 5 episodes and I consider 4 of them "provoked." Meaning the afib followed known triggers that I could have avoided if I was being careful (I generally avoid these triggers, but sometimes push my limits).

If you look at the first part of my journey, you could say that my situation changed drastically for the worse, in short order. But then looking at my situation subsequently, I'm doing much better now than when my afib was paroxysmal in the beginning and it has been a long time.

In 2021, I had an association between increased afib episodes and C19 vaccines, both mRNA and non-mRNA. Afib increased to 15 episodes with 4 shots. I started taking a very low dose of flecainide (25 mg/day), for about a year and a half, and for me it stopped the episodes. l tried several times to stop the flec, but afib would occur after several days. I finally hypothesized that if I was far enough away from the vaccines in time, I could drop the flec. That has proven to be true. I stopped the flec about 8 months ago after not having a booster for 7 months. Whether this would apply to anyone else, I have no way of knowing.]]> GeorgeN AFIBBERS FORUM Mon, 08 Jan 2024 00:45:49 +0000 https://www.afibbers.org/forum/read.php?9,194065,194065#msg-194065 persistent AF question https://www.afibbers.org/forum/read.php?9,194065,194065#msg-194065 anneh AFIBBERS FORUM Mon, 08 Jan 2024 00:11:27 +0000