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        <title>Redo ablations done by Dr. Natale</title>
        <description> Is it common to need more than one ablation done by Dr. Natale?  I would be interested in hearing about your experience if you had more than one.</description>
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            <title>Re: Redo ablations done by Dr. Natale</title>
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            <description><![CDATA[ I just had a video visit with him to discuss an ablation.  I am complicated (congenital stuff.).  He for sure didn&#039;t say one and done.  He was quite up front about what he might do even in the first procedure.  So if you visit with him via video first I would expect whatever he tells you for your situation would be truthful.]]></description>
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            <title>Re: Redo ablations done by Dr. Natale</title>
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            <description><![CDATA[ Thank you, George...your memory is amazing.  I’ll  clarify a bit.<br />
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My AF began 26 years ago in 1995 at the age of 59.  I tinkered with various treatments for 8 years... and only in the last year of that 8-year search did I learn about the importance of making sure the heart cells had enough magnesium... and to stop taking those calcium supplements - recommended for post-menopausal women.   <br />
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I had already seen Dr. Natale (in Cleveland) and had been given a future ablation date for six months out. November 2003... I was 67.    Stopping the Ca and adding lots of the Mg did help stop the arrhythmia and I was tempted to cancel the ablation date... but because of a potential insurance change, I decided not to risk it.  Went ahead with the ablation.   An awesome experience.  I couldn&#039;t believe I went home the next day in NSR and feeling really great.  <br />
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Then, 11 years later  at age 78, (June, 2014) I began having flutter arrhythmia.  By then, Dr. Natale was in Texas and I was fortunate to get in via a cancellation (8/11/14) for the LAA isolation.   However, on my flight home, I went back into flutter... and that continued on and off so I went back to Austin for the LAA touchup procedure. (4/3/15).  Now,  six years later, at age 87… My heart remains calm.   I do take half-dose of Eliquis twice a day as prescribed by Dr. Natale.  My LAA clearance velocity is good but he suggested it as a good precaution and while I don’t like using it because I have slightly low platelet count, we feel at my age, it’s a smart directive. <br />
Thank you, Dr. Natale!!!   <br />
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Jackie]]></description>
            <dc:creator>Jackie</dc:creator>
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            <pubDate>Fri, 13 Aug 2021 18:27:57 +0000</pubDate>
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            <title>Re: Redo ablations done by Dr. Natale</title>
            <link>https://www.afibbers.org/forum/read.php?9,181969,182017#msg-182017</link>
            <description><![CDATA[ Ive had 4 ablations. Last two by Natale Nov 2017 and April 2018. Natale told me a could need a third since he could not be &quot;as aggressive as he wanted to around my coronary sinus.&quot; I&#039;d go back in a heartbeat (no pun intended) if need be.]]></description>
            <dc:creator>Josephkroussell</dc:creator>
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            <pubDate>Fri, 13 Aug 2021 17:38:39 +0000</pubDate>
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            <title>Re: Redo ablations done by Dr. Natale</title>
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            <description><![CDATA[ <blockquote class="bbcode"><div><small>Quote<br /></small><strong>rocketritch</strong><br />
I&#039;ve had 3 with Natale. He didn&#039;t do my first 2 though. First with him was very involved. The other 2 were touch ups.</div></blockquote>
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Pixie,<br />
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As I stated I&#039;ve had three with Dr Natalie and two others with another EP.<br />
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Dr Natalie worked on parts of my heart that the former EP did not. That would be my LAA and my coronary sinus. My first with him was very extensive.<br />
<br />
My second with a revisit to the LAA and coronary sinus touch up.<br />
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My third was a revisit to the LAA. My LAA is structured differently so he was unable to use tools he normally does when working in that area on me. Lucky me I also have five pulmonary veins.<br />
<br />
Anyway, I wouldn&#039;t want anyone else other than Dr Natale working in my heart. Had I gone to see him initially instead of having the first EP doing a touch up I would only have had to have 4 ablations instead of 5.]]></description>
            <dc:creator>rocketritch</dc:creator>
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            <pubDate>Fri, 13 Aug 2021 14:20:00 +0000</pubDate>
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            <title>Re: Redo ablations done by Dr. Natale</title>
            <link>https://www.afibbers.org/forum/read.php?9,181969,181998#msg-181998</link>
            <description><![CDATA[ Natale himself tells patients coming to him for a <i>first ablation</i> that the need for a second &quot;touch up&quot; procedure is always possible. Touch up ablations are generally much shorter and simpler, often involving only a burn or two. However, you&#039;re not a first ablation, so you shouldn&#039;t expect the need for an additional procedure. What he&#039;ll be doing <i>is</i> a touch up. So most likely he&#039;ll be able to fix whatever&#039;s incomplete from your first ablations and that will be the end of it. <br />
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That&#039;s how my story goes and a whole lot of others I&#039;ve known who&#039;ve gone to him to fix unsuccessful ablations done by other EPs.]]></description>
            <dc:creator>Carey</dc:creator>
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            <pubDate>Fri, 13 Aug 2021 01:08:06 +0000</pubDate>
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            <title>Re: Redo ablations done by Dr. Natale</title>
            <link>https://www.afibbers.org/forum/read.php?9,181969,181990#msg-181990</link>
            <description><![CDATA[ Pixie,<br />
<br />
I&#039;m not an ablatee, but I&#039;ve been a member here for 17 years, observing what people post on their ablation experiences.  What I&#039;ve observed with those who post about their Natale experiences is that a second or more ablation with him are generally due to:<br />
<br />
a)  Passage of time, where the illness progresses, as ggheld notes.  Another member here, Jackie, had her first Natale ablation in 2003.  When she was ~67 (I&#039;m doing all this from memory, not rechecking actual facts).   She had a Natale touch up around 2015 and then had her LAA isolated a year or two later.  She&#039;s now ~85.<br />
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b)  Commonly, Natale doesn&#039;t isolate the LAA on an index or first ablation, because of the consequences of 60% chance of needing either lifetime anticoagulation or the implantation of a Watchman type device.  Hence this is commonly done on a subsequent ablation, if needed. <br />
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What I don&#039;t recall seeing is Natale having to &quot;redo&quot; previously done work, which can happen with other EP&#039;s.<br />
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George]]></description>
            <dc:creator>GeorgeN</dc:creator>
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            <pubDate>Thu, 12 Aug 2021 22:33:39 +0000</pubDate>
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            <title>Re: Redo ablations done by Dr. Natale</title>
            <link>https://www.afibbers.org/forum/read.php?9,181969,181986#msg-181986</link>
            <description><![CDATA[ I&#039;ve had 3 with Natale. He didn&#039;t do my first 2 though. First with him was very involved. The other 2 were touch ups.]]></description>
            <dc:creator>rocketritch</dc:creator>
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            <pubDate>Thu, 12 Aug 2021 18:39:29 +0000</pubDate>
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            <title>Re: Redo ablations done by Dr. Natale</title>
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            <description><![CDATA[ Ggheld,  thanks for the response.  I will take 13 years!!  I guess you are an avid believer of Dr. Natale!!]]></description>
            <dc:creator>Pixie</dc:creator>
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            <pubDate>Thu, 12 Aug 2021 16:36:51 +0000</pubDate>
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            <title>Re: Redo ablations done by Dr. Natale</title>
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            <description><![CDATA[ I&#039;ve had two by Dr. Natale but they were 13 years apart and not connected.  Should I need a 3rd I&#039;ll have his soldering iron in my chest again.]]></description>
            <dc:creator>ggheld</dc:creator>
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            <pubDate>Thu, 12 Aug 2021 13:04:24 +0000</pubDate>
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            <title>Redo ablations done by Dr. Natale</title>
            <link>https://www.afibbers.org/forum/read.php?9,181969,181969#msg-181969</link>
            <description><![CDATA[ Is it common to need more than one ablation done by Dr. Natale?  I would be interested in hearing about your experience if you had more than one.]]></description>
            <dc:creator>Pixie</dc:creator>
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            <pubDate>Thu, 12 Aug 2021 03:38:19 +0000</pubDate>
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