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        <title>&amp;quot;Mode&amp;quot; of ectopics leading to afib?</title>
        <description> I&amp;#039;ve been experiencing a new pattern of afib this year.  I was getting only a few afib episodes for the last few years...maybe 3 per year, lasting 2-3 hours and always converting on it&amp;#039;s own.  Quick start, quick finish.

This year, I started getting into what I call a &amp;quot;mode&amp;quot;... where i notice I&amp;#039;m getting lots of ectopics all of a sudden....my Kardia shows me PVC&amp;#039;s and PAC&amp;#039;s....and this lasts for hours, it gets worse, and eventually turns to afib for about 3-4 hours.....and then goes away.   The entire period of time can be like 24 hours....but only 3-4 hours in actual afib?

Once the ectopics start, there is no stopping this pattern???  

FYI. I&amp;#039;ve had afib for 30 years...1 ablation 14 years ago cleveland clinic...helped alot....again only had few episodes yearly lasting 1-3 hours max.

Any thoughts?  Such a dramatic change in pattern...</description>
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            <title>Re: &quot;Mode&quot; of ectopics leading to afib?</title>
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            <description><![CDATA[ For me Pompon, there is NO DOUBT my afib was &quot;cyclic&quot; for 14 years....  it is like after an episode my heart is &quot;re-set&quot;...and it beats steady as a drum for awhile, usually months...and then the ectopics start slowly, leading to another afib episode.  (Although this new pattern this year is different, but still cyclical).<br />
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Thank you George for the valuable informstion!]]></description>
            <dc:creator>Sdweller</dc:creator>
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            <pubDate>Wed, 08 Jul 2020 12:29:57 +0000</pubDate>
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            <title>Re: &quot;Mode&quot; of ectopics leading to afib?</title>
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            <description><![CDATA[ I&#039;ve some fascination for the &quot;cyclic&quot; phenomenon. I&#039;m living with that for about three years. It&#039;s  a short cycle : roughly one week. For me, it&#039;s 1-2hr afib starting and ending spontaneously, then about 24h with my heart beating like a clock, then something&#039;s building up inside me during some days, ectopics show up, more and more present... till afib. And a new cycle begins. It&#039;s like a battery slowly charging, then discharging with afib.<br />
No more meds for me, they have side effects only. 4 times ablated. Always this cycle.<br />
I&#039;ve tried all kinds of diets and supplements. In vain.<br />
I&#039;d like to be fully monitored, blood tests included, for a tenth days or so. I&#039;m sure it would bring interesting results about things slowly building up then being suddenly destroyed by afib.<br />
About ectopics, I&#039;d add that when they follow a regular pattern (bi or trigeminal), they don&#039;t lead to afib. Never for me.  Conversely, short runs are signs of imminent afib. If I start quiet exercise, they may disappear... but they&#039;d likely strike back during the next resting moment.]]></description>
            <dc:creator>Pompon</dc:creator>
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            <pubDate>Wed, 08 Jul 2020 09:30:12 +0000</pubDate>
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            <title>Re: &quot;Mode&quot; of ectopics leading to afib?</title>
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            <description><![CDATA[ <blockquote class="bbcode"><div><small>Quote<br /></small><strong>Sdweller</strong><br />
Can I ask you about the calcium?  I have never thought about that...I eat a lot of cheese and yogurt and dairy in general. Too much can cause afib it looks like?</div></blockquote>
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That was my experience.  I was eating a low carb diet and went through a divorce 8 years ago.  I started literally stress eating wheels of brie.  My previously stellar afib remission degraded.  I thought it was divorce stress.  After 14 or so months, reread the literature and figured it might be the calcium in the brie.  I stopped the brie and my afib control immediately returned to pre divorce levels.  <br />
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Steve Carr also has <a href="http://www.afibbers.org/forum/read.php?10,171974,171974#msg-171974"  rel="nofollow">posted</a> on calcium &amp; afib in his protocol.  <br />
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This is a <a href="http://www.afibbers.org/forum/search.php?9,search=calcium,author=SteveCarr,page=1,match_type=ALL,match_dates=0,match_forum=ALL,match_threads="  rel="nofollow">search</a> of all his posts.<br />
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The last thought I have is testosterone levels.  Was listening to a podcast today where the guest mentioned he started getting palpitations, got tested and found out he had very low T.  With T replacement to normal levels, the palpitations went away.]]></description>
            <dc:creator>GeorgeN</dc:creator>
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            <pubDate>Wed, 08 Jul 2020 02:46:38 +0000</pubDate>
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            <title>Re: &quot;Mode&quot; of ectopics leading to afib?</title>
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            <description><![CDATA[ Thank you George for the info, I will definitely get on this.  I already have upped my Potassium to 2 g per day...powder form...but it looks like I need to up the magnesium, which is hard for me as it loosens my bowels after 200mg....<br />
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Can I ask you about the calcium?  I have never thought about that...I eat a lot of cheese and yogurt and dairy in general. Too much can cause afib it looks like?]]></description>
            <dc:creator>Sdweller</dc:creator>
            <category>AFIBBERS FORUM</category>
            <pubDate>Wed, 08 Jul 2020 01:29:47 +0000</pubDate>
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            <title>Re: &quot;Mode&quot; of ectopics leading to afib?</title>
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            <description><![CDATA[ Years ago here, folks used to talk about &quot;cyclical&quot; afib.  Meaning that for many they had a cycle where there was a period of time they were &quot;safe&quot; from afib and then there was a &quot;risk&quot; period, where they were almost guaranteed an afib episode.  The length of the cycle was individual, depending on the person.  I experienced this during the my first two months of afib, then I had a two and a half month episode.  After converting that with PIP flec, I implemented my remission program, which has evolved to what I suggested for my son-in-law <a href="http://www.afibbers.org/forum/read.php?9,173495,173539#msg-173539"  rel="nofollow">here</a> (and continues working for him).  In the subsequent 15 &amp; 2/3&#039;s years, the cycles never returned.   The electrolytes mentioned in my link were a change from when I had the cycles.]]></description>
            <dc:creator>GeorgeN</dc:creator>
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            <pubDate>Tue, 07 Jul 2020 20:52:58 +0000</pubDate>
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            <title>&quot;Mode&quot; of ectopics leading to afib?</title>
            <link>https://www.afibbers.org/forum/read.php?9,175885,175885#msg-175885</link>
            <description><![CDATA[ I&#039;ve been experiencing a new pattern of afib this year.  I was getting only a few afib episodes for the last few years...maybe 3 per year, lasting 2-3 hours and always converting on it&#039;s own.  Quick start, quick finish.<br />
<br />
This year, I started getting into what I call a &quot;mode&quot;... where i notice I&#039;m getting lots of ectopics all of a sudden....my Kardia shows me PVC&#039;s and PAC&#039;s....and this lasts for hours, it gets worse, and eventually turns to afib for about 3-4 hours.....and then goes away.   The entire period of time can be like 24 hours....but only 3-4 hours in actual afib?<br />
<br />
Once the ectopics start, there is no stopping this pattern???  <br />
<br />
FYI. I&#039;ve had afib for 30 years...1 ablation 14 years ago cleveland clinic...helped alot....again only had few episodes yearly lasting 1-3 hours max.<br />
<br />
Any thoughts?  Such a dramatic change in pattern...]]></description>
            <dc:creator>Sdweller</dc:creator>
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