Depression meds & afib I've got 3 questions: 1: Does anyone have experience taking anti-depressant meds along with AFib? Most anti-depressants are stimulants which can aggravate our heart rhythms. I've not had luck googling this topic, so would be grateful for nay feedback. 2: Does anyone take large amounts of daily Omega 3 fish oils (instead of blood thinning meds) for their blood thinning effects? 3: Does anyone have experience taking the European herb Strohanthus? I understand it keeps the heart in a steady rhythm and does this by activating the parasympathetic nervous system. https://www.afibbers.org/forum/read.php?9,173223,173223#msg-173223 Mon, 21 Sep 2026 16:51:49 +0000 Phorum 5.2.23 https://www.afibbers.org/forum/read.php?9,173223,173395#msg-173395 Re: Depression meds & afib https://www.afibbers.org/forum/read.php?9,173223,173395#msg-173395 californiagal AFIBBERS FORUM Mon, 17 Feb 2020 06:34:48 +0000 https://www.afibbers.org/forum/read.php?9,173223,173394#msg-173394 Re: Depression meds & afib https://www.afibbers.org/forum/read.php?9,173223,173394#msg-173394 Strophanthus may cause irregular heartbeat. Don’t use strophanthus if you have a heart condition, without the direct supervision of a healthcare provider.
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Strophanthus may cause irregular heartbeat, search. [www.bing.com]]]> Todd AFIBBERS FORUM Mon, 17 Feb 2020 05:24:36 +0000 https://www.afibbers.org/forum/read.php?9,173223,173393#msg-173393 Re: Depression meds & afib https://www.afibbers.org/forum/read.php?9,173223,173393#msg-173393 Elizabeth AFIBBERS FORUM Mon, 17 Feb 2020 05:17:51 +0000 https://www.afibbers.org/forum/read.php?9,173223,173309#msg-173309 Re: Depression meds & afib https://www.afibbers.org/forum/read.php?9,173223,173309#msg-173309
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I'd like to lower my Xarelto to 15 mg /day but my cardiologist says all adults should have 20 mg.

The 15 mg dosage is for people with impaired kidney function. If you had impaired kidney function, taking the 15 mg dose would provide provide adequate protection, but if you have normal kidney function, taking the 15 mg dose would not provide adequate protection. I don't think I would want to do that.]]> Carey AFIBBERS FORUM Thu, 13 Feb 2020 01:14:06 +0000 https://www.afibbers.org/forum/read.php?9,173223,173303#msg-173303 Re: Depression meds & afib https://www.afibbers.org/forum/read.php?9,173223,173303#msg-173303 Thanks for your note on Fish Oils sometimes causing more PACs. I will research.
And thanks, everyone, for your cautionary words re: my desire to trade fish oils for Xarelto.]]> californiagal AFIBBERS FORUM Wed, 12 Feb 2020 21:40:37 +0000 https://www.afibbers.org/forum/read.php?9,173223,173302#msg-173302 Re: Depression meds & afib https://www.afibbers.org/forum/read.php?9,173223,173302#msg-173302 I'd like to lower my Xarelto to 15 mg /day but my cardiologist says all adults should have 20 mg. Anyone have experience taking 15 mg?]]> californiagal AFIBBERS FORUM Wed, 12 Feb 2020 21:37:04 +0000 https://www.afibbers.org/forum/read.php?9,173223,173266#msg-173266 Re: Depression meds & afib https://www.afibbers.org/forum/read.php?9,173223,173266#msg-173266
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Carey,
I have mild a-fib and have been on 50 mg Metroprolol tartrate -prn ('as needed') for 3 years. I've also been on Xarelto, 20 mg daily, as an anticoagulant. I'd like to get off the Xarelto and use alternative sources for blood thinning. Taking the Xarelto AND a decent daily intake of fish oils thins my blood too much (spontaneous capillary breakage/ bruises).

My advice would be cut down on the fish oils instead. Replacing the Xarelto with fish oil is a complete guessing game with the penalty for guessing wrong being spending the rest of your life in a long-term care facility drooling on yourself.]]> Carey AFIBBERS FORUM Tue, 11 Feb 2020 20:28:05 +0000 https://www.afibbers.org/forum/read.php?9,173223,173260#msg-173260 Re: Depression meds & afib https://www.afibbers.org/forum/read.php?9,173223,173260#msg-173260
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The article mentioned that large clinical studies have shown that Omega 3 fatty acids have an anti-arrhythmic efficacy. (Has anyone heard this, too?)
Some of us have noticed the opposite. I found that even a modest dose of a good quality fish oil gave me PACs. Some others mentioned the same. You might want to do a search and read others’ experience.]]> Daisy AFIBBERS FORUM Tue, 11 Feb 2020 18:08:48 +0000 https://www.afibbers.org/forum/read.php?9,173223,173242#msg-173242 Re: Depression meds & afib https://www.afibbers.org/forum/read.php?9,173223,173242#msg-173242 hwkmn05 AFIBBERS FORUM Tue, 11 Feb 2020 12:59:48 +0000 https://www.afibbers.org/forum/read.php?9,173223,173236#msg-173236 Re: Depression meds & afib https://www.afibbers.org/forum/read.php?9,173223,173236#msg-173236 I have mild a-fib and have been on 50 mg Metroprolol tartrate -prn ('as needed') for 3 years. I've also been on Xarelto, 20 mg daily, as an anticoagulant. I'd like to get off the Xarelto and use alternative sources for blood thinning. Taking the Xarelto AND a decent daily intake of fish oils thins my blood too much (spontaneous capillary breakage/ bruises).

(Side note: I use other heart healthy supplements such as magnesium glycinate and L-taurine).]]> californiagal AFIBBERS FORUM Tue, 11 Feb 2020 07:01:54 +0000 https://www.afibbers.org/forum/read.php?9,173223,173235#msg-173235 Re: Depression meds & afib https://www.afibbers.org/forum/read.php?9,173223,173235#msg-173235
You seem to be looking for an antiarrhythmic and an anticoagulant from alternative sources, but you've never told us what you're situation is.]]> Carey AFIBBERS FORUM Tue, 11 Feb 2020 05:00:25 +0000 https://www.afibbers.org/forum/read.php?9,173223,173234#msg-173234 Re: Depression meds & afib https://www.afibbers.org/forum/read.php?9,173223,173234#msg-173234
My afib seems to be adrenergic, not vegal.

An alternative specialist in heart issues mentioned (online) his protocol of Fish oils 2 grams TID (with each meal) for 100 lb individual with an upper target of 6 gms TID. Routine clot assessment labs must be done to determine effectiveness. If needed, other anti-coagulation supplements can be added, such as nattokinase.

I have always wanted to take more fish oils as I have extreme stiffness in my knees and fish oils in higher amounts help this symptom. Moreover, I was tested a year ago for essential fatty acids and my omega 3s were below normal.

The article mentioned that large clinical studies have shown that Omega 3 fatty acids have an anti-arrhythmic efficacy. (Has anyone heard this, too?)

I AM aware one has to be judicious when scanning the internet for health info.]]> californiagal AFIBBERS FORUM Tue, 11 Feb 2020 04:53:03 +0000 https://www.afibbers.org/forum/read.php?9,173223,173230#msg-173230 Re: Depression meds & afib https://www.afibbers.org/forum/read.php?9,173223,173230#msg-173230
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3: Does anyone have experience taking the European herb Strohanthus? I understand it keeps the heart in a steady rhythm and does this by activating the parasympathetic nervous system.

In my opinion, if someone had a vagal trigger, this would likely not be helpful. Perhaps for an adrenergic trigger.]]> GeorgeN AFIBBERS FORUM Tue, 11 Feb 2020 02:28:48 +0000 https://www.afibbers.org/forum/read.php?9,173223,173228#msg-173228 Re: Depression meds & afib https://www.afibbers.org/forum/read.php?9,173223,173228#msg-173228
2. It would require a huge, unreasonable, and unknown amount of fish oil to provide the same anticoagulant properties as something like Eliquis, warfarin, etc.

3. No, and the herb is known to be toxic. From what I've read I wouldn't touch it since there's no way to know the actual dosage and purity you're receiving.

Maybe a better question would be just telling us what you're trying to achieve.]]> Carey AFIBBERS FORUM Tue, 11 Feb 2020 02:01:34 +0000 https://www.afibbers.org/forum/read.php?9,173223,173224#msg-173224 Re: Depression meds & afib https://www.afibbers.org/forum/read.php?9,173223,173224#msg-173224 susan.d AFIBBERS FORUM Mon, 10 Feb 2020 22:33:34 +0000 https://www.afibbers.org/forum/read.php?9,173223,173223#msg-173223 Depression meds & afib https://www.afibbers.org/forum/read.php?9,173223,173223#msg-173223 1: Does anyone have experience taking anti-depressant meds along with AFib? Most anti-depressants are stimulants which can aggravate our heart rhythms. I've not had luck googling this topic, so would be grateful for nay feedback.

2: Does anyone take large amounts of daily Omega 3 fish oils (instead of blood thinning meds) for their blood thinning effects?

3: Does anyone have experience taking the European herb Strohanthus? I understand it keeps the heart in a steady rhythm and does this by activating the parasympathetic nervous system.]]> californiagal AFIBBERS FORUM Mon, 10 Feb 2020 21:11:31 +0000