Rash/itchy I didn't get much sleep last night because I was itching---I have always had a few small moles on my chest and back but the last few days my back, stomach area, shoulders and neck are really itchy, I have showered which makes it feel better for a little while. Then I just want to itch and I have scratched some areas rather bad.. I have had some itchy moles but not anything quite like this, I have read that a rash can be a side effect from Eliquis, I will go to see a Dermatologist as soon as I can. I am wondering if anybody has had any reaction such as I have described and if so what did you do? Also can one take Benadryl if they are taking Eliquis? Liz https://www.afibbers.org/forum/read.php?9,172302,172302#msg-172302 Sat, 24 Oct 2026 15:07:54 +0000 Phorum 5.2.23 https://www.afibbers.org/forum/read.php?9,172302,172473#msg-172473 Re: Rash/itchy https://www.afibbers.org/forum/read.php?9,172302,172473#msg-172473
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I suggest that you check the price of Andexxa. I show the wholesale acquisition cost of the standard dose regimen is $24,750, and the high-dose regimen is $49,500.

Yep, but that's okay because you're never going to receive the drug because you're never going to need it. The company that makes it knew you'd never need it, so they priced it according to the expected sales.

The reversal agents for NOACs were developed mainly as a marketing tool. They exist because patients feel safer knowing they exist, so they're more willing to take the NOAC. They also exist as treatments for accidental/intentional overdoses.

A reversal agent has been around for several years for Pradaxa and it's virtually never used. Thousands of trauma patients flow through major medical centers and almost none of them gets these drugs.

Why? Because NOACs aren't warfarin. They wear off in hours, not days, so they don't need reversal agents. If you have a serious bleed while on Eliquis, Xarelto, Pradaxa, etc., all they have to do is stop giving you the drug. You'll be back to normal clotting status sooner than if you had been on warfarin and they gave you vitamin K.

The only real use for the reversal agents is when your 2-year old grandchild gets into your Eliquis and swallows half a bottle.]]> Carey AFIBBERS FORUM Sun, 05 Jan 2020 05:36:52 +0000 https://www.afibbers.org/forum/read.php?9,172302,172470#msg-172470 Re: Rash/itchy https://www.afibbers.org/forum/read.php?9,172302,172470#msg-172470
NCBI Andexxa]]> Jim Benton AFIBBERS FORUM Sun, 05 Jan 2020 00:08:10 +0000 https://www.afibbers.org/forum/read.php?9,172302,172469#msg-172469 Re: Rash/itchy https://www.afibbers.org/forum/read.php?9,172302,172469#msg-172469
I am not on a Keto diet, i eat meat, eggs, beans, all fruits and veggies, starches like bread, some potatoes. Thank you, i did look at the pics, there are so many kinds of rashes and some look like mine, but my rash began after I started Eliquis. I just quit the Eliquis and started on Xaralto, I still have the rash/itchy so will see if it will subside.

Liz]]> Elizabeth AFIBBERS FORUM Sat, 04 Jan 2020 21:28:45 +0000 https://www.afibbers.org/forum/read.php?9,172302,172461#msg-172461 Re: Rash/itchy https://www.afibbers.org/forum/read.php?9,172302,172461#msg-172461 keto rash. scroll down on the search to see some images of it.
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Elizabeth
There is no reversal agent for Xarelto, is that right?

Nope! Andexxa is the reversal agent for Xarelto and it's available in the US. It also works for Eliquis.

I predict that you'll never need it and no one else here or anyone you've ever heard of will need it, but it's available in the extraordinarily unlikely event you do.]]> Carey AFIBBERS FORUM Sat, 04 Jan 2020 05:10:42 +0000 https://www.afibbers.org/forum/read.php?9,172302,172456#msg-172456 Re: Rash/itchy https://www.afibbers.org/forum/read.php?9,172302,172456#msg-172456
Liz]]> Elizabeth AFIBBERS FORUM Sat, 04 Jan 2020 02:29:52 +0000 https://www.afibbers.org/forum/read.php?9,172302,172436#msg-172436 Re: Rash/itchy https://www.afibbers.org/forum/read.php?9,172302,172436#msg-172436
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Elizabeth
Now Carey did you talk to her (just kidding, need a little levity).

Yes, I'm secretly a Xarelto sales rep so I gave her an all-expense paid trip to Hawaii. ;)]]> Carey AFIBBERS FORUM Thu, 02 Jan 2020 23:04:39 +0000 https://www.afibbers.org/forum/read.php?9,172302,172431#msg-172431 Re: Rash/itchy https://www.afibbers.org/forum/read.php?9,172302,172431#msg-172431
Well, I just spoke with the doc. at the anti-coagulation clinic and she is switching me to Xarelto to see if my rash will clear up. Now Carey did you talk to her (just kidding, need a little levity).

Liz]]> Elizabeth AFIBBERS FORUM Thu, 02 Jan 2020 20:43:04 +0000 https://www.afibbers.org/forum/read.php?9,172302,172430#msg-172430 Re: Rash/itchy https://www.afibbers.org/forum/read.php?9,172302,172430#msg-172430
It is an interesting segment on You Tube by Dr. Sanjay Gupta.]]> Elizabeth AFIBBERS FORUM Thu, 02 Jan 2020 20:19:23 +0000 https://www.afibbers.org/forum/read.php?9,172302,172415#msg-172415 Re: Rash/itchy https://www.afibbers.org/forum/read.php?9,172302,172415#msg-172415 The Anti-Fib AFIBBERS FORUM Thu, 02 Jan 2020 06:25:09 +0000 https://www.afibbers.org/forum/read.php?9,172302,172414#msg-172414 Re: Rash/itchy https://www.afibbers.org/forum/read.php?9,172302,172414#msg-172414
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Elizabeth
Carey::

I am over 80, I weigh a few lbs over 132, I weigh 138, my Creatinine is 0.89, the lab value is 0.60 - 88 mg/dl , so I think I should be taking the 2.5 Eliquis .

You meet one of the three criteria and you're close on a second (weight), so it's a judgement call on your and your doc's part.

You seem really intent on getting on a half dose of Eliquis even though you think it's causing a rash instead of trying another drug like Xarelto. If I were in your shoes, I'd try Xarelto to see if Eliquis is causing the rash. If it is, problem solved! And if it's not then you can go back to Eliquis and maybe a half dose.]]> Carey AFIBBERS FORUM Thu, 02 Jan 2020 05:42:26 +0000 https://www.afibbers.org/forum/read.php?9,172302,172413#msg-172413 Re: Rash/itchy https://www.afibbers.org/forum/read.php?9,172302,172413#msg-172413 susan.d AFIBBERS FORUM Thu, 02 Jan 2020 00:31:36 +0000 https://www.afibbers.org/forum/read.php?9,172302,172412#msg-172412 Re: Rash/itchy https://www.afibbers.org/forum/read.php?9,172302,172412#msg-172412 susan.d AFIBBERS FORUM Thu, 02 Jan 2020 00:28:28 +0000 https://www.afibbers.org/forum/read.php?9,172302,172411#msg-172411 Re: Rash/itchy https://www.afibbers.org/forum/read.php?9,172302,172411#msg-172411
I am over 80, I weigh a few lbs over 132, I weigh 138, my Creatinine is 0.89, the lab value is 0.60 - 88 mg/dl , so I think I should be taking the 2.5 Eliquis . The doctor I spoke with is a Pharmacist in the anti-coagulant division of U of M, he was a little unsure about prescribing the 2.5 mg. he had recommended Xarelto first, said they were the same. I guess it doesn't matter how old or how much you weigh on the 5mg. dose of Eliquis, a 300lb man and a woman 138 lbs take the same dosage, doesn't quite make sense to me.

Liz]]> Elizabeth AFIBBERS FORUM Thu, 02 Jan 2020 00:26:23 +0000 https://www.afibbers.org/forum/read.php?9,172302,172410#msg-172410 Re: Rash/itchy https://www.afibbers.org/forum/read.php?9,172302,172410#msg-172410
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safib
It is not foolish at all. There are good reasons for preferring Eliquis.

If there wasn't an alternative I would agree with you, but there is. The advantages of Eliquis over Xarelto are so minimal as to be meaningless. I can't imagine why anyone who suspects they have an allergy to a drug would lower the dose when a completely different and equally safe and effective drug is available. Why fiddle around with lowering doses only to find that the rash doesn't go away -- which leaves you not knowing if you're allergic to it or not -- when you could simply switch drugs and know with certainty right away?

As for Liz's question about lowering the Eliquis dose based on age, the guidelines are:

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Patients with at least 2 of the following:
  1. age ≥80 years
  2. body weight ≤60 kg
  3. serum creatinine ≥1.5 mg/dl


So if Liz is 80 or above and weighs under 60 kg (~132 lbs) or has some reduced kidney function, then the half-dose would be appropriate. Otherwise, the full dose is recommended. I doubt if many doctors would be willing to go outside those guidelines and risk a stroke just to avoid a rash.]]> Carey AFIBBERS FORUM Wed, 01 Jan 2020 23:47:46 +0000 https://www.afibbers.org/forum/read.php?9,172302,172409#msg-172409 Re: Rash/itchy https://www.afibbers.org/forum/read.php?9,172302,172409#msg-172409
I was reading that in Australia they put those that are over a certain age on 2.5 mg. of Eliquis not the 5 mg.

Liz]]> Elizabeth AFIBBERS FORUM Wed, 01 Jan 2020 23:19:32 +0000 https://www.afibbers.org/forum/read.php?9,172302,172406#msg-172406 Re: Rash/itchy https://www.afibbers.org/forum/read.php?9,172302,172406#msg-172406 I can understand your frustration and concern.

Six months after my 2015 touch-up ablation (post LAA isolation in 2014), I was able to reduce the 5 mg BID dose of Eliquis to 2.5 mg BID. I remain on that as advised by Dr. Natale mainly because of my age. All of my stats were OK.

The nose bleeds happened early on with the full dose Eliquis and were a result of dry air and dry nasal tissue.
I consulted with an ENT who advised lubricating the nasal tissue often during the winter when the air is more dry (even thought there is a humidifier on the furnace).. and that has seemed to work well. I'm still cautious with the half-dose as I have had a variety of minor cuts and small scrapes that still bleed copiously. Just annoying.

(Incidentally, FYI... You and I have always shared the low-platelet count dilemma... but my recent labs this fall indicated they had elevated to normal range. Apparently, the recommended focus on a group of B-related nutrients eventually worked. )

Take care,
Jackie]]> Jackie AFIBBERS FORUM Wed, 01 Jan 2020 20:28:47 +0000 https://www.afibbers.org/forum/read.php?9,172302,172403#msg-172403 Re: Rash/itchy https://www.afibbers.org/forum/read.php?9,172302,172403#msg-172403
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Liz]]> Elizabeth AFIBBERS FORUM Wed, 01 Jan 2020 18:56:24 +0000 https://www.afibbers.org/forum/read.php?9,172302,172401#msg-172401 Re: Rash/itchy https://www.afibbers.org/forum/read.php?9,172302,172401#msg-172401
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Carey
I didn't say it has no role, but reducing a dose to what might be an inadequate level would be foolish when there are four perfectly good alternatives available. Also, allergies often don't go away simply because the quantity of allergen is reduced. So if she reduces the Eliquis to a half dose and the rash doesn't go away, that tells you nothing. You still don't know if it's the Eliquis causing it or not.

It is not foolish at all. There are good reasons for preferring Eliquis. Also, allergies (and sensitivities for that matter) are very much dependent on dosage. Establishing thresholds for allergies is an important area of research. And if she reduces the Eliquis to a half dose and the rash does go away, that rejects the null hypothesis and tells you a lot. It is a perfectly reasonable thing to discuss with her MD or EP.]]> safib AFIBBERS FORUM Wed, 01 Jan 2020 17:01:03 +0000 https://www.afibbers.org/forum/read.php?9,172302,172399#msg-172399 Re: Rash/itchy https://www.afibbers.org/forum/read.php?9,172302,172399#msg-172399
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safib
I don't agree that reducing dosage is not useful as a tool for assessing and ameliorating side effects, especially if there are some benefits to be had with remaining on a particular drug.

I didn't say it has no role, but reducing a dose to what might be an inadequate level would be foolish when there are four perfectly good alternatives available. Also, allergies often don't go away simply because the quantity of allergen is reduced. So if she reduces the Eliquis to a half dose and the rash doesn't go away, that tells you nothing. You still don't know if it's the Eliquis causing it or not.]]> Carey AFIBBERS FORUM Wed, 01 Jan 2020 16:24:05 +0000 https://www.afibbers.org/forum/read.php?9,172302,172395#msg-172395 Re: Rash/itchy https://www.afibbers.org/forum/read.php?9,172302,172395#msg-172395 safib AFIBBERS FORUM Wed, 01 Jan 2020 15:37:49 +0000 https://www.afibbers.org/forum/read.php?9,172302,172391#msg-172391 Re: Rash/itchy https://www.afibbers.org/forum/read.php?9,172302,172391#msg-172391
Google "shingles" and go to images. It's pretty clear what shingles looks like. I had it on the upper left quadrant of my face about 35 years ago. Nasty and ugly, but no pain. I don't recall much of an itch.]]> Ken AFIBBERS FORUM Wed, 01 Jan 2020 14:32:17 +0000 https://www.afibbers.org/forum/read.php?9,172302,172384#msg-172384 Re: Rash/itchy https://www.afibbers.org/forum/read.php?9,172302,172384#msg-172384
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Elizabeth
Perhaps dropping the 5 mg. to 2.5 mg. might help me.

That's not how you find out if a drug is causing your problem. You change to a different drug. You've got four other drugs so plenty of options.]]> Carey AFIBBERS FORUM Wed, 01 Jan 2020 06:02:41 +0000 https://www.afibbers.org/forum/read.php?9,172302,172381#msg-172381 Re: Rash/itchy https://www.afibbers.org/forum/read.php?9,172302,172381#msg-172381
My belief is that the Eliquis is causing all my problems, it can cause a rash, and a bleed. No one is in the Anti-Coagulation dept. at U of M, I will call on Thursday. Perhaps dropping the 5 mg. to 2.5 mg. might help me.

Happy New Year
Liz]]> Elizabeth AFIBBERS FORUM Wed, 01 Jan 2020 04:46:58 +0000 https://www.afibbers.org/forum/read.php?9,172302,172379#msg-172379 Re: Rash/itchy https://www.afibbers.org/forum/read.php?9,172302,172379#msg-172379
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Elizabeth
A question is in my mind which I didn't think to ask the doctor and she is gone for the day now. Could the Eliquis cause my immune system to weaken so that is why I got Shingles, and if that is the case, that isn't a good thing.

No, Eliquis has no effect on the immune system. Sorry about the shingles, but it happens to a lot of people with perfectly fine immune systems.]]> Carey AFIBBERS FORUM Wed, 01 Jan 2020 01:09:38 +0000 https://www.afibbers.org/forum/read.php?9,172302,172378#msg-172378 Re: Rash/itchy https://www.afibbers.org/forum/read.php?9,172302,172378#msg-172378
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Elizabeth
I went to see an NP this morning to check out my rash. This NP looked at it and immediately said that it was Shingles and prescribed a antibiotic cream.
That I don't understand as Shingles is caused by a virus. I have had it and took oral Valtrex (and anti-viral)--cleared it up in a few days. I think about 1 in 3 get Shingles as we age.]]> Daisy AFIBBERS FORUM Tue, 31 Dec 2019 22:11:50 +0000 https://www.afibbers.org/forum/read.php?9,172302,172377#msg-172377 Re: Rash/itchy https://www.afibbers.org/forum/read.php?9,172302,172377#msg-172377
A question is in my mind which I didn't think to ask the doctor and she is gone for the day now. Could the Eliquis cause my immune system to weaken so that is why I got Shingles, and if that is the case, that isn't a good thing.

Liz]]> Elizabeth AFIBBERS FORUM Tue, 31 Dec 2019 20:58:16 +0000 https://www.afibbers.org/forum/read.php?9,172302,172362#msg-172362 Re: Rash/itchy https://www.afibbers.org/forum/read.php?9,172302,172362#msg-172362 susan.d AFIBBERS FORUM Mon, 30 Dec 2019 15:19:06 +0000 https://www.afibbers.org/forum/read.php?9,172302,172358#msg-172358 Re: Rash/itchy https://www.afibbers.org/forum/read.php?9,172302,172358#msg-172358
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susan.d
Carey, you should know from experience with knowing Natale procedures- how long (ball park) would someone who had an ablation need to remain on Eliquis?

Sure, and the answer is one month to forever depending on the patient. But Elizabeth hasn't had an ablation. She's looking at a cardioversion, and the standard of care is anticoagulants for one month following a cardioversion. :)]]> Carey AFIBBERS FORUM Mon, 30 Dec 2019 05:30:41 +0000