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        <title>PAC/PVC increase after ablation suvey</title>
        <description> It seems like a lot of people mention an increase in PAC/PVCs after ablation.  I really don’t want to substitute one arrhythmia for another issue.   I am extremely sensitive to abnormal rhythms and ectopic beats.  Can you leave a post if that’s your experience?  
INCREASE IN PAC/PVCs 
Yes
Or
No
Thank you!</description>
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            <title>Re: PAC/PVC increase after ablation suvey</title>
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            <description><![CDATA[ For me ....Quality of life is just as important.  Just like afib - some people feel it, some don’t, some stroke but most don’t.  I don’t want to cure one arrhythmia that induces another - but that’s just me.  Someone else might be fine with that - I’m not.]]></description>
            <dc:creator>Anonymous User</dc:creator>
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            <pubDate>Thu, 13 Dec 2018 14:32:43 +0000</pubDate>
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            <title>Re: PAC/PVC increase after ablation suvey</title>
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            <description><![CDATA[ I&#039;ll be 2 weeks out from my first ablation tomorrow.  For the first 6 days, I was in 100% NSR with RHR in the 50&#039;s.  Then last Monday morning I bent over in the shower and arrhythmia kicked in hard.  I stayed in arytthmia for most of the day, so I called the doc and got an EKG the following day.  Confirmed atrial flutter, but not real afib. Doc actually saw this as a good sign - usually flutter is what precedes afib, so the fact that I just had flutter was positive.  He gave me a beta blocker and let me schedule a cardio version in the event that I didn&#039;t convert on my own. <br />
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The following morning, I was back in NSR.  Canceled the cardio version.  Stayed that way a lot of the day, and then had a couple of pockets that *felt* like afib, but were a little different, because there was a normal rhythm in front of the goofy beats that weren&#039;t quite right.  <br />
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Each day since, I have pockets of arrhythmia, they always eventually convert, but it always sucks when I&#039;m off.  <br />
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As others have described, it&#039;s kinda par for the course.  You have to give it some time to heal.  But I understand how the idea of &quot;replacing&quot; one arrhythmia for another can be really tough, and I sympathize.  For me, the fact that I have reverted in and out has been a better outcome than what I had before, because before when I went into afib, I stayed there.  Now, I don&#039;t have afib anymore, my flutter is pretty much gone, and I have stray ectopic beats that come and go.  If that&#039;s the price I have to pay over the next 2 months to have a shot at long term NSR, I&#039;ll take it.<br />
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Good luck.]]></description>
            <dc:creator>Chris H</dc:creator>
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            <pubDate>Mon, 10 Dec 2018 03:49:28 +0000</pubDate>
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            <title>Re: PAC/PVC increase after ablation suvey</title>
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            <description><![CDATA[ Yes.<br />
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I have had six ablations.  Like you I find ectopics extremely bothersome. Unfortunately my afib episodes were increasing and they were bothersome also.<br />
I am thankful the afib has subsided but realize it may and prob will return.  The ectopics bother me also but not as bad as afib. <br />
One consequence of this is you may need meds to control ectopics.........<br />
Tim]]></description>
            <dc:creator>tsco</dc:creator>
            <category>AFIBBERS FORUM</category>
            <pubDate>Wed, 05 Dec 2018 01:23:26 +0000</pubDate>
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            <title>Re: PAC/PVC increase after ablation suvey</title>
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            <description><![CDATA[ Jackie-<br />
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Thanks.  I do have an appointment Wednesday- i am going to bring up the connection :)]]></description>
            <dc:creator>bettylou4488</dc:creator>
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            <pubDate>Tue, 04 Dec 2018 02:33:42 +0000</pubDate>
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            <title>Re: PAC/PVC increase after ablation suvey</title>
            <link>https://www.afibbers.org/forum/read.php?9,166534,166588#msg-166588</link>
            <description><![CDATA[ Bettylou -  It was many years ago that the intestinal permeability or leaky gut syndrome was revealed by testing.  The FM practitioner you&#039;ll be seeing can order the appropriate tests and then advise how to proceed depending on the results.  Sometimes a Candida overgrowth is present as well.  I had that as well, but all was managed by specific protocols for each condition.  <br />
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Jackie]]></description>
            <dc:creator>Jackie</dc:creator>
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            <pubDate>Mon, 03 Dec 2018 16:33:26 +0000</pubDate>
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            <title>Re: PAC/PVC increase after ablation suvey</title>
            <link>https://www.afibbers.org/forum/read.php?9,166534,166576#msg-166576</link>
            <description><![CDATA[ that is super interesting on the leaky gut. i had 2 episodes of Afib that i went to the ER for cardioversion. i tried meds- did not work. But i do have a FM doc and will be talking to him about this this week... i think this 2nd episode was when i had a goblet of wine. I rarely drink- and i know that effects the gut. wondering if you can elaborate on your leaky gut and what you are doing for it. Presently, i am doing enzymes, probiotics, l-gutamine. plus obvious diet things (although i just had a bite of pizza...but just a bite of the crust.. i have to get back to 0 tolerance.)  .. sorry i didn&#039;t post this correct- was meaning it for Jackie. thanks :)]]></description>
            <dc:creator>bettylou4488</dc:creator>
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            <pubDate>Sun, 02 Dec 2018 23:18:55 +0000</pubDate>
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            <title>Re: PAC/PVC increase after ablation suvey</title>
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            <description><![CDATA[ Had 4 ablations. Last 2 by Natale (Nov 2017 and April 2018). Stopped meds after 2nd Natale July 2018. Had significant ectopics July -Sept. Gradually ectopics diminished thereafter. Currently have very few ectopics. Started taking 200mg of magnesium daily about 2 months ago as well. Beats afib!! Have TEE and appt with Natale next month at St D to determine LAA functionality, and possible stopping of eliquis.]]></description>
            <dc:creator>Josephkroussell</dc:creator>
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            <pubDate>Fri, 30 Nov 2018 15:15:56 +0000</pubDate>
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            <title>Re: PAC/PVC increase after ablation suvey</title>
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            <description><![CDATA[ After my 2nd and 3rd Natale ablations...which isolated the LAA after 11 years success with the first ablation, I  had no problems with any type of ectopic beats.  I still don&#039;t.  <br />
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After all ablations, I resumed my protocols outlined in <i>The Strategy,</i> which eliminated ectopy issues and I also focus on eliminating underlying promoters of &#039;silent inflammation&#039; which often are stimulators of ectopy for the obvious reasons. <br />
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Everyone responds a bit differently, obviously, but since I used to have a high stress load continually,  (which depletes magnesium rapidly),  I just made sure that I worked on not only continual magnesium repletion, but also focused on adrenal support as an underlying factor to maintain a sense of calm.  That works for me.<br />
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Also, in my very early years of AF,  tests by my FM MD revealed that I had leaky gut syndrome and some bacterial overgrowth and once those were normalized, my gut issues that often promoted the onset of AF (preceeded by ectopy)  were eliminated.  <br />
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Jackie]]></description>
            <dc:creator>Jackie</dc:creator>
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            <pubDate>Fri, 30 Nov 2018 13:52:09 +0000</pubDate>
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            <title>Re: PAC/PVC increase after ablation suvey</title>
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            <description><![CDATA[ Afib is potentially dangerous, rhythm drugs are often poorly efficient and potentially dangerous too, but ectopics are nearly always harmless.<br />
Ablation is a serious procedure, it has some risks, but it&#039;s worth the try. I always thought ablation was a remedy, not a problem.]]></description>
            <dc:creator>Pompon</dc:creator>
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            <pubDate>Fri, 30 Nov 2018 07:01:08 +0000</pubDate>
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            <title>Re: PAC/PVC increase after ablation suvey</title>
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            <description><![CDATA[ Yes, no, sort of (I&#039;ve had multiple ablations).<br />
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If your afib is so mild that some ectopics are worse for you then I definitely would not recommend ablation. But I&#039;m guessing that&#039;s not actually the case? <br />
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A successful ablation will leave you free of afib without drugs other than maybe an anticoagulant depending on your CHADS-Vasc score. It&#039;s possible you&#039;ll still experience some ectopics, but they&#039;ll probably decrease over time, and above all you&#039;ll be free of afib. And it&#039;s possible if you do an ablation even with a top specialist like Natale that you&#039;ll need a second &quot;touch up&quot; procedure later. But with an EP of that caliber that should be it for you; you should be free of afib and all the drugs and crap that go with it. Don&#039;t underestimate how good that will feel. Trust me on that.]]></description>
            <dc:creator>Carey</dc:creator>
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            <pubDate>Fri, 30 Nov 2018 05:39:45 +0000</pubDate>
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            <title>Re: PAC/PVC increase after ablation suvey</title>
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            <description><![CDATA[ It’s guaranteed.<br />
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Take a moment to visualize what has happened inside of your heart during an ablation. The thin atrial tissue has been seriously inflamed by either burning with what equates to a hand-held soldering iron, or frozen with a sub-zero balloon. If either of those two things happened to a sensitive part of your skin, say, your inside forearm, how long would that be irritable? A good, long time to be sure.<br />
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It can take months to even a year for things to “get back to normal”. Don’t be discouraged in the meantime.]]></description>
            <dc:creator>wolfpack</dc:creator>
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            <pubDate>Fri, 30 Nov 2018 04:03:00 +0000</pubDate>
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            <title>PAC/PVC increase after ablation suvey</title>
            <link>https://www.afibbers.org/forum/read.php?9,166534,166534#msg-166534</link>
            <description><![CDATA[ It seems like a lot of people mention an increase in PAC/PVCs after ablation.  I really don’t want to substitute one arrhythmia for another issue.   I am extremely sensitive to abnormal rhythms and ectopic beats.  Can you leave a post if that’s your experience?  <br />
INCREASE IN PAC/PVCs <br />
Yes<br />
Or<br />
No<br />
Thank you!]]></description>
            <dc:creator>Anonymous User</dc:creator>
            <category>AFIBBERS FORUM</category>
            <pubDate>Fri, 30 Nov 2018 03:43:01 +0000</pubDate>
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