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        <description>Outside of more frequent bloodwork and diet restrictions, what are the other downfalls of warfarin?  As opposed tio the new drugs, isn&#039;t it safer to be able to control the blood levels with regular testing? How do you know what your blood is doing with Eliquis or xarelto? It seems I would have more control over bleeding problems with warfarin. My risk of falling and injury is high because of outdoor work that I do. It just seems the control over bleeding is not there with Eliquis. Pharmacist said he wasn&#039;t sure if our small rural hospitals had the antidotes or not. Thanks.</description>
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            <title>Re: Warfarin</title>
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            <description><![CDATA[ I&#039;ve looked into the comments of people who are taking Eliquis. What I found was that most don&#039;t like it and there have been deaths of people on it. In fact, the lawyers are circling already setting up class action suits against Eliquis. Also, since the drug has been into the public there are side effects that aren&#039;t listed.<br />
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[<a href="https://ethicalnag.org/2011/10/14/eliquis-study-flawed/"  rel="nofollow">ethicalnag.org</a>]]]></description>
            <dc:creator>alxndr01</dc:creator>
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            <pubDate>Wed, 13 Feb 2019 17:40:30 +0000</pubDate>
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            <title>Re: Warfarin</title>
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            <description><![CDATA[ I have AFIB about once a month, and can usually convert myself within a few minutes. The one time I couldn&#039;t, I was in the hospital for two nights before I converted. The doctor put me on Eliquis, which I hated right from the start. It made me feel horrible, so I stopped taking it. I am now taking only natural blood thinners, i.e. fish oils, herbs, etc.<br />
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I was wondering how much Magnesium and Taurine do people take per day to help prevent AFIB attacks? I&#039;ve been taking 1/4 tsp of both twice daily. Not sure of the mg&#039;s. I live in Colorado, and I&#039;m deathly afraid of having an AFIB attack skiing on the top of the mountain, so I&#039;m trying to do whatever I need to prevent this from happening.<br />
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I do not take any other meds, besides 5 mg of Lisiniprol. Has anyone had any luck with Calcium Channel blockers to prevent AFIB? Beta blockers? I have a bottle of Rhythmol (Propafenol) that my doctor gave me to take as a &quot;pill in a pocket&quot; but after reading about how it can cause sudden cardiac arrest, I am afraid to even try it.<br />
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Any suggestions would be greatly appreciated. Thanks!]]></description>
            <dc:creator>vailjanine</dc:creator>
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            <pubDate>Sun, 06 Jan 2019 14:56:41 +0000</pubDate>
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            <title>Re: Warfarin</title>
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            <description><![CDATA[ Just spoke with a guy currently teaching at Yale who was former head of Oncology. I got interested when he mentioned that he was taking warfarin. He said that he was very familiar with the NOAC&#039;s, but didn&#039;t trust them. He noted that you can micromanage warfarin with your diet, and noted the advantage of knowing everything about a medication because it&#039;s been around for decades.  Also, he felt NOAC&#039;s were convenient for physicians.]]></description>
            <dc:creator>jpeters</dc:creator>
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            <pubDate>Thu, 18 Oct 2018 05:02:03 +0000</pubDate>
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            <title>Re: Warfarin</title>
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            <description><![CDATA[ <blockquote class="bbcode"><div><small>Quote<br /></small><strong>Carey</strong><br />
Short-term use of NSAIDs is okay according to two of my EPs. By short-term they meant a few days, not weeks.</div></blockquote>
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Thanks.]]></description>
            <dc:creator>Brian_og</dc:creator>
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            <pubDate>Sat, 13 Oct 2018 19:39:37 +0000</pubDate>
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            <description><![CDATA[ Short-term use of NSAIDs is okay according to two of my EPs. By short-term they meant a few days, not weeks.]]></description>
            <dc:creator>Carey</dc:creator>
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            <pubDate>Sat, 13 Oct 2018 00:58:01 +0000</pubDate>
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            <title>Re: Warfarin</title>
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            <description><![CDATA[ Bolimasa;<br />
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I have read that you can get a device like what diabetics use to test their blood sugar, it comes with strips, you put a drop of blood on the strip and it tests your INR.<br />
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L]]></description>
            <dc:creator>Elizabeth</dc:creator>
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            <pubDate>Fri, 12 Oct 2018 19:58:00 +0000</pubDate>
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            <title>Re: Warfarin</title>
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            <description><![CDATA[ I was told no ibuprofen with my warfarin. They told me Tylenol was ok.]]></description>
            <dc:creator>bolimasa</dc:creator>
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            <pubDate>Wed, 10 Oct 2018 13:06:18 +0000</pubDate>
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            <title>Re: Warfarin</title>
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            <description><![CDATA[ Just a side question. I&#039;ve read that taking nsaids is not advised when taking anti coags.  What do you do if you need Ibuprofen etc?]]></description>
            <dc:creator>Brian_og</dc:creator>
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            <pubDate>Wed, 10 Oct 2018 07:39:38 +0000</pubDate>
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            <title>Re: Warfarin</title>
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            <description><![CDATA[ Yep, they&#039;re ridiculously expensive, but that cost will come down quickly, and if you need it, you need it. Given warfarin&#039;s long half-life, you could usually just wait out the effects of a NOAC in less time than warfarin could be reversed with vitamin K. My point was that people put too much stock in reversal agents. None of them are fast. If you&#039;re bleeding heavily, you need a surgeon, not a drug.]]></description>
            <dc:creator>Carey</dc:creator>
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            <pubDate>Wed, 10 Oct 2018 05:11:59 +0000</pubDate>
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            <description><![CDATA[ <blockquote class="bbcode"><div><small>Quote<br /></small><strong>Carey</strong><br />
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I chose warfarin over the other anti-coagulants because it is fairly tried and true,  and can be reversed.<br />
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There are now reversal agents for Pradaxa, Eliquis and Xarelto. The only NOACs that don&#039;t have a reversal agent are Savaysa and Bevyxxa, but they will soon. <br />
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Two things that people need to keep in mind with reversing anticoagulants are that 1) it has a much longer half life than the NOACs and 2) reversing warfarin takes upwards of 24 hours. That means that the NOACs can now be reversed faster than warfarin so that advantage has been erased.</div></blockquote>
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Down side being that the reversal agents for the NOACs are something like $23,000 a dose... If they actually have them available... They were approved in, I think it was April, but being approved didn&#039;t guarantee availability.  Maybe that&#039;s changed since I spoke to my thrombosis pharmacist this summer but a few months ago I was told they were not widely available.<br />
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Jun 18, 2018 · The supply of Andexxa is expected to be limited until early 2019; according to the drug&#039;s website (andexxa.com), it is currently available at only ten institutions. Treatment with the high dose would cost $49,500 for the drug alone.12 The low-dose regimen would cost half as much.]]></description>
            <dc:creator>bolimasa</dc:creator>
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            <pubDate>Wed, 10 Oct 2018 04:33:33 +0000</pubDate>
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            <title>Re: Warfarin</title>
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            <description><![CDATA[ <blockquote class="bbcode"><div><small>Quote<br /></small><strong>bolimasa</strong><br />
I chose warfarin over the other anti-coagulants because it is fairly tried and true,  and can be reversed.</div></blockquote>
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There are now reversal agents for Pradaxa, Eliquis and Xarelto. The only NOACs that don&#039;t have a reversal agent are Savaysa and Bevyxxa, but they will soon. <br />
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Two things that people need to keep in mind with reversing anticoagulants are that 1) it has a much longer half life than the NOACs and 2) reversing warfarin takes upwards of 24 hours. That means that the NOACs can now be reversed faster than warfarin so that advantage has been erased.]]></description>
            <dc:creator>Carey</dc:creator>
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            <pubDate>Tue, 09 Oct 2018 22:54:30 +0000</pubDate>
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            <title>Re: Warfarin</title>
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            <description><![CDATA[ Nancy and Catherine, I&#039;ll come to your party....<br />
I chose warfarin over the other anti-coagulants because it is fairly tried and true,  and can be reversed. I don&#039;t feel that I lead a very blood thinner friendly lifestyle, so reversibility seemed like a good thing. (I plan to be skiing this winter!) Not to mention, and this is purely anecdotal and perhaps not related to the medication, but my dad got put on Pradaxa when it was the latest greatest  new med and 6 months later he was dead.  Not that I know the Pradaxa was a problem, but it did give me pause about newer meds.<br />
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I&#039;ve also been lucky with the INR biz... My diet plan has been to eat a bag of spinach every week plus whatever else I feel like, and thus far my INR has stayed right between 2 and 3 as they want it.  I did read that some people have genetics that make it more difficult to regulate and stabilize INR,  so it might not as so easy for everyone. I&#039;m also lucky to work at the med center, so my monthly INR checks just mean a short break at work to walk over and get my finger pricked. I imagine I&#039;d feel different about the whole biz if I had to leave work and drive across town to get tested every month. LOL  I&#039;m happy with the warfin.... though I&#039;m hoping to get off it in December!]]></description>
            <dc:creator>bolimasa</dc:creator>
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            <pubDate>Tue, 09 Oct 2018 20:14:53 +0000</pubDate>
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            <title>Re: Warfarin</title>
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            <description><![CDATA[ I’m with you, Nancy.  This rumor of food restrictions with Warfarin is simply not true.  To date, I’ve not seen or heard any TV attorneys drumming up businees for Warfarin.<br />
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My husband lasted three weeks on Eliquis.  Terrible headsches.]]></description>
            <dc:creator>Catherine</dc:creator>
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            <pubDate>Sat, 06 Oct 2018 23:54:37 +0000</pubDate>
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            <title>Re: Warfarin</title>
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            <description><![CDATA[ I&#039;ve used Warfarin for years. I&#039;ve got a diet that works with plenty of greens. It&#039;s not that you can&#039;t have them, it&#039;s that you have things regularly. And I like salads for lunch on workdays, so that&#039;s my routine. I&#039;ve had weeks where I got tired of them and didn&#039;t have them, but no boogy men appeared. I&#039;m perfectly fine and settled with it.]]></description>
            <dc:creator>Nancy2</dc:creator>
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            <pubDate>Sat, 06 Oct 2018 12:16:05 +0000</pubDate>
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            <title>Re: Warfarin</title>
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            <description><![CDATA[ Thank you, but I can see where it would be weird when you first read it. I should have written cervical neck. He would have been the first to laugh at the mix up. And I do appreciate your input on both kinds of blood thinner . It makes sense why he was put on warfarin since he dealt with low platelets all the time.]]></description>
            <dc:creator>Erin</dc:creator>
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            <pubDate>Wed, 03 Oct 2018 00:31:29 +0000</pubDate>
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            <title>Re: Warfarin</title>
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            <description><![CDATA[ I&#039;m sorry for your loss and sorry if it seemed I was making light of your brother&#039;s illness.]]></description>
            <dc:creator>Carey</dc:creator>
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            <pubDate>Wed, 03 Oct 2018 00:06:02 +0000</pubDate>
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            <description><![CDATA[ He did not have a sex change. He died of  leukemia a year ago. He not only dealt with the leaukemia but also the damage done to his heart by mistakes made in surgery. He had a congenital spine defect which caused his CERVICAL vertebrae to rupture. He was the bravest person I ever knew and the kindest. Thanks to those who tried to explain the differences in blood thinners.]]></description>
            <dc:creator>Erin</dc:creator>
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            <pubDate>Tue, 02 Oct 2018 23:50:21 +0000</pubDate>
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            <title>Re: Warfarin</title>
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            <description><![CDATA[ <blockquote class="bbcode"><div><small>Quote<br /></small><strong>smackman</strong><br />
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I would love to talk with you by PM on the Eliquis you have and are not using.</div></blockquote>
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Your doctor has determined that the benefits justify the costs.]]></description>
            <dc:creator>jpeters</dc:creator>
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            <pubDate>Tue, 02 Oct 2018 23:41:10 +0000</pubDate>
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            <title>Re: Warfarin</title>
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            <description><![CDATA[ Carey -  &quot;cervical&quot;  is used in reference to  &quot;neck&quot;  of various structures.<br />
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www.healthline.com/health/cervical-spondylosis<br />
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www.verywellhealth.com/cervical-neck-fractures-3119349<br />
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Or in dental anatomy  ... the cervical area  or neck of the tooth.<br />
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Jackie]]></description>
            <dc:creator>Jackie</dc:creator>
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            <pubDate>Tue, 02 Oct 2018 22:07:42 +0000</pubDate>
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            <title>Re: Warfarin</title>
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            <description><![CDATA[ <blockquote class="bbcode"><div><small>Quote<br /></small><strong>Erin</strong><br />
When I asked the original question, I was thinking of my brother whose cardiologist told him he could not use xarelto. This was four years ago. He was battling a rare aggressive form of leukemia and I would imagine that is  why they chose warfarin. He had thrown a clot before warfarin because a surgeon did not think blood thinner was warranted after cervical surgery. I realize everyone is going to react differently.</div></blockquote>
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Your brother had cervical surgery? Unless your brother underwent a sex change operation I think you meant some other type of surgery. ;-) <br />
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In any case, warfarin is still preferred in some circumstances such as artificial valves and some diseases like leukemia.]]></description>
            <dc:creator>Carey</dc:creator>
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            <pubDate>Tue, 02 Oct 2018 21:07:25 +0000</pubDate>
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            <title>Re: Warfarin</title>
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            <description><![CDATA[ When I asked the original question, I was thinking of my brother whose cardiologist told him he could not use xarelto. This was four years ago. He was battling a rare aggressive form of leukemia and I would imagine that is  why they chose warfarin. He had thrown a clot before warfarin because a surgeon did not think blood thinner was warranted after cervical surgery. I realize everyone is going to react differently.]]></description>
            <dc:creator>Erin</dc:creator>
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            <pubDate>Tue, 02 Oct 2018 20:09:24 +0000</pubDate>
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            <title>Re: Warfarin</title>
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            <description><![CDATA[ <blockquote class="bbcode"><div><small>Quote<br /></small><strong>jpeters</strong><br />
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That&#039;s a 12-year old article written before finger stick testing existed. Doctors aren&#039;t switching to NOACs because it&#039;s more convenient for them. They&#039;re switching because the NOACs are equally or more effective, have far fewer side effects, far fewer interactions with other drugs, no interactions with food, don&#039;t require monitoring and dosage adjustments, and have a lower bleed risk. <br />
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Once again, warfarin&#039;s only advantage is cost.<br />
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Finger stick testing? You&#039;re joking, right?  Once again, you&#039;re entitled to your own opinion, but for many people (like myself) who have no problems with warfarin, eliquis certainly has no advantages.<br />
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BTW/ I have at least a year&#039;s supply of Eliquis...samples dumped on the clinic to get everyone using it. I switched to warfarin because Eliquis wasn&#039;t able to remove a clot.</div></blockquote>
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I would love to talk with you by PM on the Eliquis you have and are not using.]]></description>
            <dc:creator>smackman</dc:creator>
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            <title>Re: Warfarin</title>
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            <description><![CDATA[ <blockquote class="bbcode"><div><small>Quote<br /></small><strong>smackman</strong><br />
 I will follow Dr. Natalie’s orders any day over a layman’s opinion. <br />
Have a nice day 😎</div></blockquote>
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Let&#039;s hope so]]></description>
            <dc:creator>jpeters</dc:creator>
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            <pubDate>Tue, 02 Oct 2018 17:39:42 +0000</pubDate>
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            <title>Re: Warfarin</title>
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            <description><![CDATA[ <blockquote class="bbcode"><div><small>Quote<br /></small><strong>jpeters</strong><br />
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Overall, neither blood thinner bothers me except easy to bleed. Taking only 2.5 mg of Eliquis 2X a day has helped out.<br />
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The lower dose, however, has substantial increased stroke risk.<br />
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Not true for my situation. Dr. Natale is my EP and his professional opinion was 2.5 mg 2X a day of Eliquis. I am not in AFIB. It has to do with my P wave at the mitral valve.<br />
Make sure you understand the diagnosis before blurting nonsense.<br />
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I would suggest you curb your arrogance, Smackman.  I&#039;m not an authority on the issue. Obviously, I  don&#039;t know your &quot;diagnosis&quot;.  <br />
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&quot;ARISTOTLE: Avoid Lower-Dose Apixaban in AF Patients With One Dose-Reduction Criterion&quot;<br />
&quot;Patients should be treated with the effective doses as studied, because using the reduced 2.5-mg twice-daily dose of apixaban in this population could result in preventable strokes,&quot; Dr John H Alexander (Duke Clinical Research Institute, Duke Health, Durham, NC) and colleagues write in the analysis, published online July 27, 2016 in JAMA Cardiology.<br />
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[<a href="https://www.medscape.com/viewarticle/867075"  rel="nofollow">www.medscape.com</a>]</div></blockquote>
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May I suggest to YOU to not throw assumptions around when you do not know every patients circumstance. I am a nice old man but I can also turn on my Louisiana charm if needed. <br />
You throw out one random quote and you have Zero evidence of my particular circumstance. I will follow Dr. Natalie’s orders any day over a layman’s opinion. <br />
Have a nice day 😎]]></description>
            <dc:creator>smackman</dc:creator>
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            <title>Re: Warfarin</title>
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            <description><![CDATA[ <blockquote class="bbcode"><div><small>Quote<br /></small><strong>Carey</strong><br />
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I think you&#039;re confusing facts with opinion and theory. Very little is understood about the intricacies of how medications interact within the human body. Making absolute statements like that is absurd and meaningless.<br />
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It&#039;s not theory or opinion. I understand that you personally prefer warfarin and that&#039;s fine.</div></blockquote>
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In my case I had no choice. My situation, however, was unique. I was newly diagnosed, in persistent, and had massive clots. Eliquis simple wasn&#039;t powerful enough to get rid of them so I could cardioconvert. I could regulate wafarin to a 3.5 INR and get rid of it quickly. In other situations, I&#039;m sure it works fine.  Higher INR comes with increased risk, of course, so when I was in rhythm, I brought it down to 1.8 by eating more Kale.]]></description>
            <dc:creator>jpeters</dc:creator>
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            <pubDate>Tue, 02 Oct 2018 16:50:49 +0000</pubDate>
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            <title>Re: Warfarin</title>
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            <description><![CDATA[ <blockquote class="bbcode"><div><small>Quote<br /></small><strong>jpeters</strong><br />
I think you&#039;re confusing facts with opinion and theory. Very little is understood about the intricacies of how medications interact within the human body. Making absolute statements like that is absurd and meaningless.</div></blockquote>
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It&#039;s not theory or opinion. I understand that you personally prefer warfarin and that&#039;s fine, but if you actually look at the documented side effects, drug interactions, food interactions for both drugs there&#039;s really no room for debate.]]></description>
            <dc:creator>Carey</dc:creator>
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            <pubDate>Tue, 02 Oct 2018 14:36:29 +0000</pubDate>
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            <title>Re: Warfarin</title>
            <link>https://www.afibbers.org/forum/read.php?9,165450,165530#msg-165530</link>
            <description><![CDATA[ <blockquote class="bbcode"><div><small>Quote<br /></small><strong>smackman</strong><br />
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Overall, neither blood thinner bothers me except easy to bleed. Taking only 2.5 mg of Eliquis 2X a day has helped out.<br />
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The lower dose, however, has substantial increased stroke risk.<br />
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Not true for my situation. Dr. Natale is my EP and his professional opinion was 2.5 mg 2X a day of Eliquis. I am not in AFIB. It has to do with my P wave at the mitral valve.<br />
Make sure you understand the diagnosis before blurting nonsense.</div></blockquote>
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I would suggest you curb your arrogance, Smackman.  I&#039;m not an authority on the issue. Obviously, I  don&#039;t know your &quot;diagnosis&quot;.  <br />
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&quot;ARISTOTLE: Avoid Lower-Dose Apixaban in AF Patients With One Dose-Reduction Criterion&quot;<br />
&quot;Patients should be treated with the effective doses as studied, because using the reduced 2.5-mg twice-daily dose of apixaban in this population could result in preventable strokes,&quot; Dr John H Alexander (Duke Clinical Research Institute, Duke Health, Durham, NC) and colleagues write in the analysis, published online July 27, 2016 in JAMA Cardiology.<br />
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[<a href="https://www.medscape.com/viewarticle/867075"  rel="nofollow">www.medscape.com</a>]]]></description>
            <dc:creator>jpeters</dc:creator>
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            <pubDate>Tue, 02 Oct 2018 14:21:17 +0000</pubDate>
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            <title>Re: Warfarin</title>
            <link>https://www.afibbers.org/forum/read.php?9,165450,165529#msg-165529</link>
            <description><![CDATA[ <blockquote class="bbcode"><div><small>Quote<br /></small><strong>jpeters</strong><br />
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Overall, neither blood thinner bothers me except easy to bleed. Taking only 2.5 mg of Eliquis 2X a day has helped out.<br />
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The lower dose, however, has substantial increased stroke risk.</div></blockquote>
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Not true for my situation. Dr. Natale is my EP and his professional opinion was 2.5 mg 2X a day of Eliquis. I am not in AFIB. It has to do with my P wave at the mitral valve.<br />
Make sure you understand the diagnosis before blurting nonsense.]]></description>
            <dc:creator>smackman</dc:creator>
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            <pubDate>Tue, 02 Oct 2018 13:20:40 +0000</pubDate>
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            <title>Re: Warfarin</title>
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            <description><![CDATA[ <blockquote class="bbcode"><div><small>Quote<br /></small><strong>Carey</strong><br />
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 What I said is the facts are that warfarin is an inferior drug when compared to the NOACs for most people. </div></blockquote>
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I think you&#039;re confusing facts with opinion and theory. Very little is understood about the intricacies of how medications interact within the human body. Making absolute statements like that is absurd and meaningless.]]></description>
            <dc:creator>jpeters</dc:creator>
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            <pubDate>Tue, 02 Oct 2018 04:47:16 +0000</pubDate>
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            <title>Re: Warfarin</title>
            <link>https://www.afibbers.org/forum/read.php?9,165450,165523#msg-165523</link>
            <description><![CDATA[ <blockquote class="bbcode"><div><small>Quote<br /></small><strong>jpeters</strong><br />
Finger stick testing? You&#039;re joking, right?  Once again, you&#039;re entitled to your own opinion, but for many people (like myself) who have no problems with warfarin, eliquis certainly has no advantages.</div></blockquote>
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I never said it isn&#039;t the best choice for some people. It is for some people for various reasons and I don&#039;t argue that you&#039;re one of them.  I&#039;m not speaking to your situation or any individual&#039;s situation. I&#039;m speaking to the broader group of everyone reading this. What I said is the facts are that warfarin is an inferior drug when compared to the NOACs for most people. Singling out Eliquis as some sort of horrible drug is a disservice to people reading this forum because it&#039;s just plain inaccurate.]]></description>
            <dc:creator>Carey</dc:creator>
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            <pubDate>Tue, 02 Oct 2018 04:19:28 +0000</pubDate>
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