Probiotics and Afib Sometimes right after I eat, I experiece palpitations. Sometimes my stomach starts acting up. I’m wondering if probiotics would be helpful. If so, which kind? https://www.afibbers.org/forum/read.php?9,161349,161349#msg-161349 Wed, 23 Sep 2026 22:23:26 +0000 Phorum 5.2.23 https://www.afibbers.org/forum/read.php?9,161349,161460#msg-161460 Re: Probiotics and Afib https://www.afibbers.org/forum/read.php?9,161349,161460#msg-161460 rmal.]]> Catherine AFIBBERS FORUM Sat, 14 Apr 2018 18:47:32 +0000 https://www.afibbers.org/forum/read.php?9,161349,161432#msg-161432 Re: Probiotics and Afib https://www.afibbers.org/forum/read.php?9,161349,161432#msg-161432
The Kimchi is good as it does provide natural probiotics and certainly so is your Kefir, but you really should have the comprehensive test.

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Jackie]]> Jackie AFIBBERS FORUM Fri, 13 Apr 2018 19:47:59 +0000 https://www.afibbers.org/forum/read.php?9,161349,161420#msg-161420 Re: Probiotics and Afib https://www.afibbers.org/forum/read.php?9,161349,161420#msg-161420
I'm a vegetarian and use whole milk for my Kefir. I purchased seeds.from a local Organic producer. I've suffered from gut problems for a long as I can remember. Had fundoplication procedure many years ago which was a waste of time and effort.
I have other chronic conditions which make life difficult :) HR around 165-190+ when in AF, and episodes 4-5 times a month, sometimes more.
I'm an avid researcher and this forum has been a life saver over the years. Some very succinct and insightful advice to be had.]]> JoyWin AFIBBERS FORUM Fri, 13 Apr 2018 03:16:23 +0000 https://www.afibbers.org/forum/read.php?9,161349,161413#msg-161413 Re: Probiotics and Afib https://www.afibbers.org/forum/read.php?9,161349,161413#msg-161413 Catherine AFIBBERS FORUM Thu, 12 Apr 2018 23:17:45 +0000 https://www.afibbers.org/forum/read.php?9,161349,161397#msg-161397 Re: Probiotics and Afib https://www.afibbers.org/forum/read.php?9,161349,161397#msg-161397
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Is it pissible that sometimes we injest food bourne germs?

It's not possible. It's guaranteed. Especially if you make your own fermented dairy products! That's where stomach acid is so critical. It kills those little buggers - the vast majority of them anyway.

Not sure if gallbadder would necessarily be part of a routing physical. You'd have to make a specific complaint about it. Generally speaking if you have discomfort and loose stools after a high-fat meal, the gallbladder would be suspect.]]> wolfpack AFIBBERS FORUM Thu, 12 Apr 2018 18:51:15 +0000 https://www.afibbers.org/forum/read.php?9,161349,161392#msg-161392 Re: Probiotics and Afib https://www.afibbers.org/forum/read.php?9,161349,161392#msg-161392
It took almost two years to get myself back on track by reading. One book that helped me immensly was Why Stomavh Acid Is Good For You, by Dr. Jonathan Wright.

There is a goat farm not too far from us where I would buy fresh goat milk every week and ferment my own Kefir. Ordered the grains from Amazon, revived them and they multiplied. They looked gorgeous. I absolutely loved the taste of Kefir. My mouth is watering as I type this.

Since last June, I have been on whole food/plant based diet. So Kefir is off limits.

I would urge you not to take Nexium or any other PPI’s. They do some nasty damage, long term.]]> Catherine AFIBBERS FORUM Thu, 12 Apr 2018 13:25:32 +0000 https://www.afibbers.org/forum/read.php?9,161349,161390#msg-161390 Re: Probiotics and Afib https://www.afibbers.org/forum/read.php?9,161349,161390#msg-161390
Is it pissible that sometimes we injest food bourne germs?]]> Catherine AFIBBERS FORUM Thu, 12 Apr 2018 13:09:02 +0000 https://www.afibbers.org/forum/read.php?9,161349,161387#msg-161387 Re: Probiotics and Afib https://www.afibbers.org/forum/read.php?9,161349,161387#msg-161387
I go into AF 90% of the time (probably more) after eating, particularly if I rush it. The same can happen when I drink quickly. I have a very touchy interior. I’m constantly feeling as if my oesophageus is is raw. I can also get an episode if I rub my chest too hard, like say when I’m drying myself after a shower. I’m pretty sure it’s my Vagal Nerve that is super sensitive and probably my heart nerve as well. It’s very disconcerting and I have tried everything. At the moment I’m making and drinking my own Kefir and it seems to help, if you can stand the taste. It certainly hasn’t hurt.
I’d love to have an answer, but all my doc will give me is Nexium. He had no idea what I was talking about when I tried to explain the relationship between eating and AF and said it was just coincidental 🤨
Let me know if you find anything that works.]]> JoyWin AFIBBERS FORUM Thu, 12 Apr 2018 09:40:55 +0000 https://www.afibbers.org/forum/read.php?9,161349,161379#msg-161379 Re: Probiotics and Afib https://www.afibbers.org/forum/read.php?9,161349,161379#msg-161379
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Jackie, i’ll get mild pain lower part of my stomach, almost mimicking pelvic pain, then followed by diarrhea which lasts several says. Presently, the diarrhea has sibsided, but the stools are still not formed well and they float. Otherwise, I haven’t changed my diet, feel really good and full of energy.

The only change is giving up regular tea and now only drink decaf. It has helped reduce my palpitations.

Gallbladder? Have you had that checked? Ultrasound for stones/cysts, HIDA Scan for emptying fraction.]]> wolfpack AFIBBERS FORUM Thu, 12 Apr 2018 00:37:24 +0000 https://www.afibbers.org/forum/read.php?9,161349,161372#msg-161372 Re: Probiotics and Afib https://www.afibbers.org/forum/read.php?9,161349,161372#msg-161372 Catherine AFIBBERS FORUM Wed, 11 Apr 2018 20:28:40 +0000 https://www.afibbers.org/forum/read.php?9,161349,161371#msg-161371 Re: Probiotics and Afib https://www.afibbers.org/forum/read.php?9,161349,161371#msg-161371
The only change is giving up regular tea and now only drink decaf. It has helped reduce my palpitations.]]> Catherine AFIBBERS FORUM Wed, 11 Apr 2018 20:27:03 +0000 https://www.afibbers.org/forum/read.php?9,161349,161368#msg-161368 Re: Probiotics and Afib https://www.afibbers.org/forum/read.php?9,161349,161368#msg-161368
The right type, number of strains and colony population of probiotics are extremely important for health of the microbiome which, in turn, then affects the entire body and especially brain health.

There are many foods that are naturally high in probiotic bacteria that provide a wide range of health benefits. There are also very good probiotics formulas made by Garden of Life (Dr. Formulated) and Ultimate Flora with probiotic strains of 10, 14, 16 and other professional grade products which offer 30 billion, 50 billion and more live cultures in each capsule, for example. The count depends on the degree of therapy needed. GI testing is often the best way to determine appropriate probiotic choices.

The book by Neurologist, David Perlmutter, MD Brain Maker describes "The Power of Gut Microbes to Heal and Protect your Brain.... for Life" is an excellent guide.

Chapter 8 Feeding Your Microbiome - Six Essential Keys to Boosting Your Brain by Boosting Your Gut

Dr. Perlmutter explains the importance of keeping various elements healthy ..." including the vagus nerve... aka the tenth cranial nerve that extends from the brain stem to the abdomen and controls body processes we don't consciously
control such as maintaining the heart rate and controlling digestion." "The population of gut bacteria directly affects the stimulation and function of cells along the vagus and some microbes actually release chemical messengers just as neurons do." (quotes and paraphrases from page 27. ) The whole cascade makes sense when we consider the elements involved in the process and how that might contribute to palpitations and even afib.

Jackie]]> Jackie AFIBBERS FORUM Wed, 11 Apr 2018 18:59:13 +0000 https://www.afibbers.org/forum/read.php?9,161349,161363#msg-161363 Re: Probiotics and Afib https://www.afibbers.org/forum/read.php?9,161349,161363#msg-161363 Ken AFIBBERS FORUM Wed, 11 Apr 2018 13:09:56 +0000 https://www.afibbers.org/forum/read.php?9,161349,161362#msg-161362 Re: Probiotics and Afib https://www.afibbers.org/forum/read.php?9,161349,161362#msg-161362
Often, people who can't make enough of their own natural stomach acid due to certain nutrient deficiencies will experience gas, bloating, GERD as the food particles can't be broken down...but that's not typically immediate.
The stomach requires a low pH (acidic) which keeps it relatively sterile and in cases when stomach pH is elevated,
there are various symptoms.

But if there is a food sensitivity, the reactions can be fairly quick.

There are several digestive aids that help if you describe in more detail. Probiotics are great for optimizing the intestinal flora that belong there but that's another process.

Jackie]]> Jackie AFIBBERS FORUM Wed, 11 Apr 2018 12:55:56 +0000 https://www.afibbers.org/forum/read.php?9,161349,161357#msg-161357 Re: Probiotics and Afib https://www.afibbers.org/forum/read.php?9,161349,161357#msg-161357
Probiotic bacteria live in your intestines, not in the stomach where the acid environment would kill them. Palpitations are probably caused by the gastric pressure of a full stomach against the heart, deforming it and perhaps causing some back pressure and atrial stretch triggering ectopic beats.

That’s my theory, anyway. Probiotics are by all means a good choice in many cases, as they can help “speed along” the digestive process in the gut which also helps the stomach empty in less time, thus less epigastric pressure and fewer palps. Try it and see.]]> wolfpack AFIBBERS FORUM Wed, 11 Apr 2018 02:40:55 +0000 https://www.afibbers.org/forum/read.php?9,161349,161349#msg-161349 Probiotics and Afib https://www.afibbers.org/forum/read.php?9,161349,161349#msg-161349
If so, which kind?]]> Catherine AFIBBERS FORUM Tue, 10 Apr 2018 18:00:39 +0000