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        <description> Does anyone use dry sauna to relax , detox, and heal?  If so, what brand/type.   Near infrared or far? 

Also, has anyone had good success with the supplement brand &amp;quot;Bulk Supplements?&amp;quot;    I try to run everything through Consumer Labs but they don&amp;#039;t test every brand of every supplement .   I want to take inositol in a powder.   I have been taking the Solar brand, but getting 4 grams a day is a lot of capsules to swallow and it is completely tasteless.   It&amp;#039;s inositol hexanicotinate.   Bulk Supplements has just Inositol.   I wonder if it would work the same?    I do notice my mood is much happier, and I sleep a LOT better!</description>
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            <description><![CDATA[ <blockquote class="bbcode"><div><small>Quote<br /></small><strong>susan.d</strong><br />
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Have not had any AF after using Sauna either. 20 to 25 min dry @ 60 to 70 deg C two to 3 x / week for the last few months<br />
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Joe- did you get a successful ablation? If so your scar tissue barrier (“afib-monkey cage”) could contribute to your good fortune in remaining in nsr. I’m happy for your success in remaining in nsr.</div></blockquote>
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Thank you Susan! Haven&#039;t gone the ablation route at this stage. My AF was permanent for almost 4 months at the end of 2015 or 16 (forget, would have to look up records). Reversed after the second CV. Have been doing all sorts of &#039;alternative&#039; interventions and taking on board advise from this wonderful forum - so far so good. Still have break throughs which i try to deal with breathing etc and after (if not successful) with Flec which is still good, fingers crossed!<br />
Just having a bit of AF this afternoon brought about by my own stupidity - eating something that triggers my heart:(]]></description>
            <dc:creator>Joe</dc:creator>
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            <pubDate>Sat, 30 Oct 2021 03:26:55 +0000</pubDate>
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            <description><![CDATA[ <blockquote class="bbcode"><div><small>Quote<br /></small><strong>LaniB</strong><br />
I want to take inositol in a powder.</div></blockquote>
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I just started experimenting with this inositol powder today after reading a reviewer mention it was pharmaceutical quality.  [<a href="https://smile.amazon.com/dp/B01DPW5E46?psc=1&amp;ref=ppx_yo2_dt_b_product_details"  rel="nofollow">smile.amazon.com</a>]<br />
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So we&#039;ll see.]]></description>
            <dc:creator>GeorgeN</dc:creator>
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            <pubDate>Sat, 30 Oct 2021 01:26:01 +0000</pubDate>
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            <description><![CDATA[ <blockquote class="bbcode"><div><small>Quote<br /></small><strong>susan.d</strong><br />
Would increased adrenaline/norepinephrine response from alcohol, epi, and caffeine also triggers afib?</div></blockquote>
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Looks like all can increase adrenaline/norepinephrine, hence could have an adrenergic trigger effect for someone sensitive to that.<br />
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&quot;Caffeine ingestion has been demonstrated to increase circulating epinephrine (Epi) and norepinephrine (NE), elevate free fatty acids (FFAs), and alter heart rate, blood pressure (BP), and ventilation in humans.&quot; <a href="https://pubmed.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/8964766/"  rel="nofollow">Source</a><br />
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Epi is epinephrine <a href="https://go.drugbank.com/drugs/DB00668"  rel="nofollow">Source</a><br />
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&quot;Drinking water and non-alcoholic cold liquids caused a marked fall in plasma adrenaline and a transient rise in noradrenaline concentration. In contrast, drinking alcohol resulted in a relative rise in adrenaline and a delayed increase in noradrenaline concentration.&quot;  [<a href="https://pubmed.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/6723203/"  rel="nofollow">pubmed.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov</a>]]]></description>
            <dc:creator>GeorgeN</dc:creator>
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            <pubDate>Sat, 30 Oct 2021 01:22:59 +0000</pubDate>
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            <description><![CDATA[ <blockquote class="bbcode"><div><small>Quote<br /></small><strong>Joe</strong><br />
Have not had any AF after using Sauna either. 20 to 25 min dry @ 60 to 70 deg C two to 3 x / week for the last few months</div></blockquote>
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Joe- did you get a successful ablation? If so your scar tissue barrier (“afib-monkey cage”) could contribute to your good fortune in remaining in nsr. I’m happy for your success in remaining in nsr.]]></description>
            <dc:creator>susan.d</dc:creator>
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            <pubDate>Fri, 29 Oct 2021 23:38:32 +0000</pubDate>
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            <description><![CDATA[ Would increased adrenaline/norepinephrine response from alcohol, epi, and caffeine also triggers afib?]]></description>
            <dc:creator>susan.d</dc:creator>
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            <pubDate>Fri, 29 Oct 2021 23:16:19 +0000</pubDate>
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            <description><![CDATA[ <blockquote class="bbcode"><div><small>Quote<br /></small><strong>susan.d</strong><br />
Wouldn’t sweating profusely trigger dehydration and afib? In the beginning, all my afib occurred during hot &gt;110-118F days.</div></blockquote>
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Hi Susan, <br />
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In this <a href="https://hubermanlab.com/using-cortisol-and-adrenaline-to-boost-our-energy-and-immune-system/"  rel="nofollow">podcast</a> (at around 30 minutes), Stanford neuroscientist Andrew Huberman mentions that sauna can increase adrenaline/norepinephrine.  I could hypothesize that in someone who has adrenergic triggers that this increase in adrenaline/norepinephrine could trigger an episode.  Having always been very vagal, this doesn&#039;t seem to apply to me.]]></description>
            <dc:creator>GeorgeN</dc:creator>
            <category>GENERAL HEALTH FORUM</category>
            <pubDate>Fri, 29 Oct 2021 16:38:55 +0000</pubDate>
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            <description><![CDATA[ Have not had any AF after using Sauna either. 20 to 25 min dry @ 60 to 70 deg C two to 3 x / week for the last few months]]></description>
            <dc:creator>Joe</dc:creator>
            <category>GENERAL HEALTH FORUM</category>
            <pubDate>Fri, 29 Oct 2021 04:07:00 +0000</pubDate>
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            <description><![CDATA[ <blockquote class="bbcode"><div><small>Quote<br /></small><strong>susan.d</strong><br />
Wouldn’t sweating profusely trigger dehydration and afib? In the beginning, all my afib occurred during hot &gt;110-118F days.</div></blockquote>
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Certainly has been reported for some people.  Like many things, probably a lot of individual variability.  My son-in-law has reported dehydration without heat as a trigger,  I built my sauna over 4 years ago and use it almost every day I&#039;m home.  I did weigh myself before and after the other day and I lose maybe a half liter (17 oz) of water.  I usually drink that much before exercising, which precedes my sauna use.  I generally exercise in my basement which runs 65 deg F/18 C or colder year round, so I don&#039;t sweat a lot during the exercise.  I also consume at least 1.5 tsp of NaCl, 2 tsp K citrate and 3 ish grams of Mg/day, so I&#039;m always topping off my electrolytes.  The air temp at head level in the back of my sauna runs around 127 deg F/53 C.  It is hotter on my skin and the surface temp of the heat lamp bulbs is 500 deg F/ 260 C.  I&#039;ve yet to get afib from my sauna or any other sauna, hot tub or steam room I&#039;ve used.]]></description>
            <dc:creator>GeorgeN</dc:creator>
            <category>GENERAL HEALTH FORUM</category>
            <pubDate>Fri, 29 Oct 2021 02:23:27 +0000</pubDate>
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            <description><![CDATA[ Wouldn’t sweating profusely trigger dehydration and afib? In the beginning, all my afib occurred during hot &gt;110-118F days.]]></description>
            <dc:creator>susan.d</dc:creator>
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            <pubDate>Thu, 28 Oct 2021 15:12:00 +0000</pubDate>
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            <description><![CDATA[ Thanks everyone!]]></description>
            <dc:creator>LaniB</dc:creator>
            <category>GENERAL HEALTH FORUM</category>
            <pubDate>Thu, 28 Oct 2021 13:02:50 +0000</pubDate>
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            <description><![CDATA[ For years we&#039;ve used a modular far infared sauna with 8 spearate heaters so you can move around to put whatever part needs the heat right up against one of the heaters.  It&#039;s supposedly built for 4 people but when both my wife and I are there it&#039;s pretty full.<br />
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Ours is a stand alone building, inside or ourside, came as a pre-fab kit, took two of us maybe 2 hours to put together, needs its own 110v, 20a circuit, has lights, timer and tape player, (yes, it&#039;s that old).<br />
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Cost of the kit was about $3500, would be more now.<br />
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Of course, Amazon has a wide variety of them, like everything else.  [<a href="https://www.amazon.com/4-person-infrared-sauna/s?k=4+person+infrared+sauna"  rel="nofollow">www.amazon.com</a>]]]></description>
            <dc:creator>ggheld</dc:creator>
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            <pubDate>Thu, 28 Oct 2021 12:58:06 +0000</pubDate>
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            <description><![CDATA[ Don&#039;t know how hands on you are with building. I built a wooden box for a Sauna under our house. Installed a Chinese 3000W oven (about $A270) did do the wiring but got an electrician to connect to the switch board (cost more than the oven(8-) took him 3/4 of an hour (he was a slow one :))]]></description>
            <dc:creator>Joe</dc:creator>
            <category>GENERAL HEALTH FORUM</category>
            <pubDate>Thu, 28 Oct 2021 05:35:20 +0000</pubDate>
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            <description><![CDATA[ <blockquote class="bbcode"><div><small>Quote<br /></small><strong>LaniB</strong><br />
Does anyone use dry sauna to relax , detox, and heal?  If so, what brand/type.   Near infrared or far? </div></blockquote>
I converted a basement shower (2.5&#039;x4&#039;) to a heat lamp sauna (so near infrared).  It has four 250 watt heat lamps in a diamond pattern. I used Dr. Wilson&#039;s <a href="https://www.drlwilson.com/SAUNAS/SAUNA%20PLANS.htm"  rel="nofollow">plans</a> for the light panel.   His <a href="https://www.drlwilson.com/Articles/SAUNA%20BOOK%202019.htm"  rel="nofollow">book.</a>  What I did was use Reflectix brand insulation.  It is aluminum faced bubble wrap.  I insulated the doors, walls and ceiling.  The light panel is hung off the shower (which is not used at all now).  The panel has 4 porcelain fixtures for the bulbs as well as a light switch. I have a heavy duty wire to a 3 prong grounded plug coming out of the switch.  This is plugged into a heavy duty outdoor extension cord, which is plugged into a wall outlet.  We usually heat the sauna for a minimum of 30 minutes and then enter (one person).  we have a towel on the floor and on a wooden stool and rotate 90 degrees every 5 or 6 minutes for a 30 minute session.  We have a stack of towels and only use a stool towel once before washing as we sweat profusely.  I could take it apart in 5 minutes if I needed, nothing I&#039;ve done is permanent. <br />
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<blockquote class="bbcode"><div><small>Quote<br /></small><strong></strong><br />Also, has anyone had good success with the supplement brand &quot;Bulk Supplements?&quot;    I try to run everything through Consumer Labs but they don&#039;t test every brand of every supplement .   I want to take inositol in a powder.   I have been taking the Solar brand, but getting 4 grams a day is a lot of capsules to swallow and it is completely tasteless.   It&#039;s inositol hexanicotinate.   Bulk Supplements has just Inositol.   I wonder if it would work the same?    I do notice my mood is much happier, and I sleep a LOT better!</div></blockquote>
I&#039;ve used them for potassium citrate  powder and it works.]]></description>
            <dc:creator>GeorgeN</dc:creator>
            <category>GENERAL HEALTH FORUM</category>
            <pubDate>Wed, 27 Oct 2021 22:55:27 +0000</pubDate>
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            <description><![CDATA[ [<a href="https://www.ahajournals.org/doi/10.1161/CIRCRESAHA.120.317768"  rel="nofollow">www.ahajournals.org</a>]<br />
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[<a href="https://www.jacc.org/doi/abs/10.1016/s0735-1097%2801%2901144-5"  rel="nofollow">www.jacc.org</a>]<br />
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I don’t understand this study if inositol is helpful or the opposite for afib.]]></description>
            <dc:creator>susan.d</dc:creator>
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            <pubDate>Wed, 27 Oct 2021 20:22:31 +0000</pubDate>
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            <description><![CDATA[ Does anyone use dry sauna to relax , detox, and heal?  If so, what brand/type.   Near infrared or far? <br />
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Also, has anyone had good success with the supplement brand &quot;Bulk Supplements?&quot;    I try to run everything through Consumer Labs but they don&#039;t test every brand of every supplement .   I want to take inositol in a powder.   I have been taking the Solar brand, but getting 4 grams a day is a lot of capsules to swallow and it is completely tasteless.   It&#039;s inositol hexanicotinate.   Bulk Supplements has just Inositol.   I wonder if it would work the same?    I do notice my mood is much happier, and I sleep a LOT better!]]></description>
            <dc:creator>LaniB</dc:creator>
            <category>GENERAL HEALTH FORUM</category>
            <pubDate>Wed, 27 Oct 2021 19:27:23 +0000</pubDate>
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