Corona Covid19 So reading at risk groups (serious effects like death) for this virus it states heart disease I know our skipping hearts have disease..., but is it the type of disease that would put us at higher risk of death or serious illness due to covid19!?! https://www.afibbers.org/forum/read.php?10,173849,173849#msg-173849 Thu, 14 May 2026 03:07:36 +0000 Phorum 5.2.23 https://www.afibbers.org/forum/read.php?10,173849,174152#msg-174152 Re: Corona Covid19 https://www.afibbers.org/forum/read.php?10,173849,174152#msg-174152
On that thought I was curious and searched amazon painter jumpsuits. I had one somewhere when I sprayed painted my ceiling. It has a hood and protects you from head to toe. Out of curiosity I checked prices. It was like eBay seconds before an auction ended- $3-5 body suits jumped to $50. Amazing. Can you imagine walking into a market dressed like that with disposable booties and gloves? I’m not mocking because that person, although overkill, is well protected as long as they wash the jumpsuit the minute they return home.

A doctor friend wears a glass/plastic spacesuit helmet. At first I thought he wasn’t protecting himself going shopping daily without a mask until he text me a photo of his helmet. I was LOTF. It’s a head turner.]]> susan.d GENERAL HEALTH FORUM Mon, 30 Mar 2020 00:02:10 +0000 https://www.afibbers.org/forum/read.php?10,173849,174134#msg-174134 Re: Corona Covid19 https://www.afibbers.org/forum/read.php?10,173849,174134#msg-174134
"And for everybody to know. One of my ex fellow’s brother ( 47 year old) in China was in the hospital intubated the first week of December. Clearly they kept it quite for a while".]]> rocketritch GENERAL HEALTH FORUM Sun, 29 Mar 2020 15:08:28 +0000 https://www.afibbers.org/forum/read.php?10,173849,174127#msg-174127 Re: Corona Covid19 https://www.afibbers.org/forum/read.php?10,173849,174127#msg-174127 Appreciate all the information and his experience! Don't agree with in @ about 44min reducing fever without qualifiers.]]> Joe GENERAL HEALTH FORUM Sun, 29 Mar 2020 00:26:49 +0000 https://www.afibbers.org/forum/read.php?10,173849,174121#msg-174121 Re: Corona Covid19 https://www.afibbers.org/forum/read.php?10,173849,174121#msg-174121 This aligns and takes much of the fear of how not to get Corona Virus. Highly recommended. Worth the listen

Please do take time to watch this. It’s an hour. Gives important tips and answers questions about who is more vulnerable, typical symptoms, when to go to the hospital, etc. Dr. Price adds useful tips right to the very end.
His “follow the rules” points are valuable and protective.
Please circulate and be well,

Jackie

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Hi Guys,

My good friend in NYC sent me this video; this is his boss.

It's an interview with Dr. David Price of Weill Cornell Medical Center in NYC. He is a pulmonary MD (working ICU) who deals with placing patients on/off of mechanical ventilators and for the last 2 weeks their pulmonary department has exclusively been treating the 20% of NYC's Covid-19 patients. Basically, he is a great/valid resource for valuable information.

In this recorded Zoom, he shares information with family and friends to help empower and protect themselves during this Covid-10 pandemic. He discusses the uniqueness of working the front lines in NYC with this novel disease, how much they have learned, how to avoid contracting it, etc.

He gives clear manageable rules, and how to apply them. He states in the first 5 minutes that right now, for the first time in months, he is no longer afraid because of how much "we" have learned. It's calming, factual (he constantly references studies/reports), and long - but, I'm glad I watched it. It seems to especially appeal to those who work in the medical field. Of everything that I've watched/read in the last few weeks, this seemed the most helpful.

[vimeo.com]

Covid_19_Protecting_Your_Family_Dr_Dave_Price_3_22_2020
Dr. David Price of Weill Cornell Medical Center in New York City shares information in a Mar. 22 Zoom call with family and friends on empowering and protecting families…
vimeo.com]]> Jackie GENERAL HEALTH FORUM Sat, 28 Mar 2020 18:55:48 +0000 https://www.afibbers.org/forum/read.php?10,173849,174063#msg-174063 Re: Corona Covid19 https://www.afibbers.org/forum/read.php?10,173849,174063#msg-174063 In Italy the young are heavy vapors which explains the young need for intubation:

When someone’s lungs are exposed to flu or other infections the adverse effects of smoking or vaping are much more serious than among people who do not smoke or vape.

[tobacco.ucsf.edu]

Be Well All,

McHale]]> McHale GENERAL HEALTH FORUM Wed, 25 Mar 2020 04:13:58 +0000 https://www.afibbers.org/forum/read.php?10,173849,174062#msg-174062 Re: Corona Covid19 https://www.afibbers.org/forum/read.php?10,173849,174062#msg-174062
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60% alcohol is adequate to kill coronavirus. Purell uses a mix of isopropyl and ethanol alcohols because isopropyl is better at killing bacteria while ethanol is better at killing viruses, but regardless it is effective at killing coronavirus.

If you want to make your own Glycerin is also hard to find, but it can be ordered online from chemworld.com. I've acquired both and now have 4 liters of hand sanitizer with an 80% alcohol content.

[www.amazon.com]

Not cheap but you get a big container to share with family and friends. It’s a larger quantity than chemworld.com. You probably don’t need much. I use it when making glazes for my homemade clay (I’m a potter). You may want to check out pottery stores online. I like Lagunaclay.com it’s in their raw material catalog.]]> susan.d GENERAL HEALTH FORUM Wed, 25 Mar 2020 03:20:58 +0000 https://www.afibbers.org/forum/read.php?10,173849,174060#msg-174060 Re: Corona Covid19 https://www.afibbers.org/forum/read.php?10,173849,174060#msg-174060
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That must be a state restriction. I just bought two 1.75 liter bottles of 190 proof Everclear. I would go for 99% isopropyl if I couldn't get 190 proof Everclear.

Wow, that’s a lot of flammable booze!

We afibbers aren’t supposed to be that well versed in distilled spirits! :)-D

I’m sure 75.5% ethanol will do a number on SARS-CoV2. I’m not too terribly worried. I still have a pint or so of rubbing alcohol, too, that mixes just fine with aloe (also contains some isopropyl). I can make quite a bit of sanitizer. If it’s a bit lower on the concentration scale, just allow some more contact time or do two applications. It will work. Sucks the water right out of anything with a semi-permeable membrane. Guaranteed.]]> wolfpack GENERAL HEALTH FORUM Wed, 25 Mar 2020 00:50:14 +0000 https://www.afibbers.org/forum/read.php?10,173849,174056#msg-174056 Re: Corona Covid19 https://www.afibbers.org/forum/read.php?10,173849,174056#msg-174056
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Everclear got cut since the days we were in college. It’s 151 proof, same as Bacardi now. I bought a pint a few weeks ago for the same reason. Was disappointed to see the reduction.

That must be a state restriction. I just bought two 1.75 liter bottles of 190 proof Everclear. I would go for 99% isopropyl if I couldn't get 190 proof Everclear.]]> Carey GENERAL HEALTH FORUM Tue, 24 Mar 2020 01:07:04 +0000 https://www.afibbers.org/forum/read.php?10,173849,174055#msg-174055 Re: Corona Covid19 https://www.afibbers.org/forum/read.php?10,173849,174055#msg-174055
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60% alcohol is adequate to kill coronavirus. Purell uses a mix of isopropyl and ethanol alcohols because isopropyl is better at killing bacteria while ethanol is better at killing viruses, but regardless it is effective at killing coronavirus.

If you want to make your own hand sanitizer, just drop by your local liquor store and buy some 190 proof Everclear (grain alcohol). It's 95% ethanol. You have to use 99% isopropyl to match it. But you'll probably find it difficult to find Everclear because it's been bought out for this reason. I had to stop by daily at my local liquor store for a week before they finally got another shipment in. Glycerin is also hard to find, but it can be ordered online from chemworld.com. I've acquired both and now have 4 liters of hand sanitizer with an 80% alcohol content.

Plain old soap and water works best of all against all pathogens, but you can't carry a bucket of soap and water around, so I just use hand sanitizer when I'm out and about. If I'm somewhere there's soap and water available, that's the best choice.

Everclear got cut since the days we were in college. It’s 151 proof, same as Bacardi now. I bought a pint a few weeks ago for the same reason. Was disappointed to see the reduction.]]> wolfpack GENERAL HEALTH FORUM Mon, 23 Mar 2020 23:40:09 +0000 https://www.afibbers.org/forum/read.php?10,173849,174048#msg-174048 Re: Corona Covid19 https://www.afibbers.org/forum/read.php?10,173849,174048#msg-174048
Lemonade is I’m very productive being stuck home. I woke up at the crack of dawn and washed windows and cabinets, took everything out of drawers and did a dust wipe down. Spring cleaning. I “found” bleach, 3 bottles of vinegar and three Clorox I didn’t know I had. Plus I filled my trash cans full of junk I don’t need.

There is no reason to be bored at home if you are at a high risk to leave. Read a book, start a hobby, organize your computer and phone by deleting files you don’t want or go in your backyard and do some gardening to get Vit D. Amazon will deliver veggie seeds for under $2.

Or...start your taxes.]]> susan.d GENERAL HEALTH FORUM Mon, 23 Mar 2020 19:42:16 +0000 https://www.afibbers.org/forum/read.php?10,173849,174046#msg-174046 Re: Corona Covid19 https://www.afibbers.org/forum/read.php?10,173849,174046#msg-174046
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I wonder if they deliver the booze?

All you can do is call them and ask. Whether or not it's allowed would depend on state law. There is one liquor store here locally that will deliver.

But if you're self-quarantining at home then George is right. Just use soap and water. It's more effective than alcohol against viruses, bacteria, fungus, and spores. The only time I use a hand sanitizer is when I'm out and about and don't have soap and water readily available.]]> Carey GENERAL HEALTH FORUM Mon, 23 Mar 2020 18:20:27 +0000 https://www.afibbers.org/forum/read.php?10,173849,174045#msg-174045 Re: Corona Covid19 https://www.afibbers.org/forum/read.php?10,173849,174045#msg-174045
Why does soap work so well on the SARS-CoV-2, the coronavirus and indeed most viruses?
Because it is a self-assembled nanoparticle in which the weakest link is the lipid (fatty) bilayer.

"The soap dissolves the fat membrane and the virus falls apart like a house of cards and “dies”, or rather, we should say it becomes inactive as viruses aren’t really alive. Viruses can be active outside the body for hours, even days."

"Disinfectants or liquids, wipes, gels and creams containing alcohol (and soap) have similar effects but are not really quite as good as normal soap. Apart from the alcohol and soap, the “antibacterial agents” in these products don’t affect the virus structure much at all. Consequently, many antibacterial products are basically just an expensive version of soap in terms of how they act on viruses. Soap is the best but alcohol wipes are good when soap is not practical or handy (e.g. office receptions)."

https://virologydownunder.com/why-does-soap-work-so-well-on-sars-cov-2/]]> GeorgeN GENERAL HEALTH FORUM Mon, 23 Mar 2020 18:10:20 +0000 https://www.afibbers.org/forum/read.php?10,173849,174042#msg-174042 Re: Corona Covid19 https://www.afibbers.org/forum/read.php?10,173849,174042#msg-174042
My concern is surface contact. I used to wipe down every can and food bottles with Clorox wipes but I am very low on them. The only reason I started was because I went to a mom and pop small market and the owner was coughing while he was stocking the counters.

They say coronavirus on non porous surfaces (plastic, metal, etc) can last up to 3 days and non porous (cardboard, money) can last less time. I’m sure that’s why they suggest washing your hands more frequently.

[i.postimg.cc]

I bought my grandkids used books on Amazon to entertain them during their mandatory quarantine. I doubt once it’s delivered if the parents will allow it into their home. How can you wash paper? Kids always touch their faces.]]> susan.d GENERAL HEALTH FORUM Mon, 23 Mar 2020 17:15:27 +0000 https://www.afibbers.org/forum/read.php?10,173849,174041#msg-174041 Re: Corona Covid19 https://www.afibbers.org/forum/read.php?10,173849,174041#msg-174041
If you want to make your own hand sanitizer, just drop by your local liquor store and buy some 190 proof Everclear (grain alcohol). It's 95% ethanol. You have to use 99% isopropyl to match it. But you'll probably find it difficult to find Everclear because it's been bought out for this reason. I had to stop by daily at my local liquor store for a week before they finally got another shipment in. Glycerin is also hard to find, but it can be ordered online from chemworld.com. I've acquired both and now have 4 liters of hand sanitizer with an 80% alcohol content.

Plain old soap and water works best of all against all pathogens, but you can't carry a bucket of soap and water around, so I just use hand sanitizer when I'm out and about. If I'm somewhere there's soap and water available, that's the best choice.]]> Carey GENERAL HEALTH FORUM Mon, 23 Mar 2020 14:38:37 +0000 https://www.afibbers.org/forum/read.php?10,173849,174034#msg-174034 Re: Corona Covid19 https://www.afibbers.org/forum/read.php?10,173849,174034#msg-174034
On that note a DC small distillery is helping out and is making sanitizers which they are giving out. They are using their highest proof booze. I’m sure it’s more than 6o%.

I was able to get 70% alcohol based McKesson brand sanitizer from a medical supply house. They sell to hospitals. I didn’t get that much-saving half my order to hospitals that need it. I only got it because I’m at high risk.

If you can find the ingredients you can make your own:

[i.postimg.cc]]]> susan.d GENERAL HEALTH FORUM Mon, 23 Mar 2020 05:17:20 +0000 https://www.afibbers.org/forum/read.php?10,173849,174032#msg-174032 Re: Corona Covid19 https://www.afibbers.org/forum/read.php?10,173849,174032#msg-174032
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Online news now states Purell has made false claims that their sanitizer fights off the coronavirus from surface contact.

How is that a false claim? Alcohol-based hand sanitizers are proven to kill almost all bacteria and viruses. WHO, CDC, etc. recommend their use.]]> Carey GENERAL HEALTH FORUM Sun, 22 Mar 2020 15:30:12 +0000 https://www.afibbers.org/forum/read.php?10,173849,174029#msg-174029 Re: Corona Covid19 https://www.afibbers.org/forum/read.php?10,173849,174029#msg-174029 susan.d GENERAL HEALTH FORUM Sun, 22 Mar 2020 04:52:55 +0000 https://www.afibbers.org/forum/read.php?10,173849,174027#msg-174027 Re: Corona Covid19 https://www.afibbers.org/forum/read.php?10,173849,174027#msg-174027 Noticed by it's absents in the above link - hot sauna exposure?
Don't know about this virus but having three consecutive sessions (about 15 min ea) of very hot,dry sauna stopped my flu virus a few years ago.
Of course, i have no proof other than that i felt perfectly well the same day after a few hours sleep to recover from the exhausting sauna.]]> Joe GENERAL HEALTH FORUM Sun, 22 Mar 2020 00:54:01 +0000 https://www.afibbers.org/forum/read.php?10,173849,174014#msg-174014 Re: Corona Covid19 https://www.afibbers.org/forum/read.php?10,173849,174014#msg-174014
What really turned my head around was a study[3] looking at 101 cases of COVID-19 patients who all had pneumonia. All had imaging of their lungs, from multiple centers in China, called lung CT scans. What was startling, as scientists and government have been saying that mostly the elderly are at risk, was that 70% of these 101 COVID-19 pneumonia patients were aged 21 to 50 years old! Over two-thirds were younger than we have been led to believe are at high risk.


3] Relation Between Chest CT Findings and Clinical Conditions of Coronavirus Disease (COVID-19) Pneumonia: A Multicenter Study [published online ahead of print, 2020 Mar 3]. AJR Am J Roentgenol. 2020;1–6. doi:10.2214/AJR.20.22976

[drlindseyberkson.com]]]> Jackie GENERAL HEALTH FORUM Sat, 21 Mar 2020 13:52:31 +0000 https://www.afibbers.org/forum/read.php?10,173849,174011#msg-174011 Re: Corona Covid19 https://www.afibbers.org/forum/read.php?10,173849,174011#msg-174011
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In short, I wouldn't worry about AF in the context of COVID-19. I'd worry more about COVID-19 itself and doing what it takes to avoid catching it and avoid spreading it.

It's worth saying that infectious state is often mentioned as a PAF trigger. It's likely that catching the covid-19 would bring me afib, which would add another disabling symptom, IMO.]]> Pompon GENERAL HEALTH FORUM Sat, 21 Mar 2020 10:22:43 +0000 https://www.afibbers.org/forum/read.php?10,173849,174007#msg-174007 Re: Corona Covid19 https://www.afibbers.org/forum/read.php?10,173849,174007#msg-174007
And sadly for grandparents, that means particularly the young. They suck at social distancing and it's a mild disease for them so they can easily be carriers before they even develop a mild cold. If I were 80+ I wouldn't get near anyone under the age of 50, and the ones over 50 only if I had to.]]> Carey GENERAL HEALTH FORUM Sat, 21 Mar 2020 04:51:05 +0000 https://www.afibbers.org/forum/read.php?10,173849,174002#msg-174002 Re: Corona Covid19 https://www.afibbers.org/forum/read.php?10,173849,174002#msg-174002
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[www.medscape.com]

Medscape March 19, 2020]]> Jackie GENERAL HEALTH FORUM Fri, 20 Mar 2020 21:59:34 +0000 https://www.afibbers.org/forum/read.php?10,173849,173995#msg-173995 Re: Corona Covid19 https://www.afibbers.org/forum/read.php?10,173849,173995#msg-173995
In short, I wouldn't worry about AF in the context of COVID-19. I'd worry more about COVID-19 itself and doing what it takes to avoid catching it and avoid spreading it.]]> wolfpack GENERAL HEALTH FORUM Fri, 20 Mar 2020 13:00:27 +0000 https://www.afibbers.org/forum/read.php?10,173849,173994#msg-173994 Re: Corona Covid19 https://www.afibbers.org/forum/read.php?10,173849,173994#msg-173994 I have paroxysmal AF. Usually 1 or 2 episodes per year, but less lately due to avoiding triggers.
Would this be classed as an underlying health condition?
And therefore in a risk category for Coronavirus?
Thanks]]> kevcorbett GENERAL HEALTH FORUM Fri, 20 Mar 2020 07:48:03 +0000 https://www.afibbers.org/forum/read.php?10,173849,173947#msg-173947 Re: Corona Covid19 https://www.afibbers.org/forum/read.php?10,173849,173947#msg-173947
I wouldn't want to go and stay 4 days in the hospital at this point in time with all of this stuff going on. I was thinking that I will call my doctor and have him send me a script for Flecimide, that doesn't require a hospital stay and maybe the med. might convert me, better than nothing.

You have a good friend.

LIz]]> Elizabeth GENERAL HEALTH FORUM Tue, 17 Mar 2020 01:09:35 +0000 https://www.afibbers.org/forum/read.php?10,173849,173946#msg-173946 Re: Corona Covid19 https://www.afibbers.org/forum/read.php?10,173849,173946#msg-173946
My friend went to a private market that has chicken. She has been in line 2 hours. This time inside. It is really raining. She is 8 away from buying me chicken. She got me 8 pounds of fish so I should be ok for a while if she can snag some chicken.

I have amazon delivering in 3 weeks vitamin water. It has C. I have 6 bottles until then. Thanks for the C tip.]]> susan.d GENERAL HEALTH FORUM Tue, 17 Mar 2020 00:40:56 +0000 https://www.afibbers.org/forum/read.php?10,173849,173945#msg-173945 Re: Corona Covid19 https://www.afibbers.org/forum/read.php?10,173849,173945#msg-173945
Sorry to hear about all the problems you are having. It isn't just hype and media frenzy---i did go grocery shopping last Fri. and was able to find most everything I needed, but the stores are getting bare now. Do you have any Vit. C? Perhaps you can locate a Doctor that could give you intravenous solution of Vit. C, that is what would help you now. Holistic Doctors do that, check it out.

I was scheduled to stay in the hospital while they would give me Tikosyn plus than cardiovert me, if I didn't convert. I got a call today saying they are re-scheduling me until July, how about that? They are all taking it seriously now Barry.

Liz]]> Elizabeth GENERAL HEALTH FORUM Mon, 16 Mar 2020 23:51:53 +0000 https://www.afibbers.org/forum/read.php?10,173849,173944#msg-173944 Re: Corona Covid19 https://www.afibbers.org/forum/read.php?10,173849,173944#msg-173944
We are rationing our food. We shared a can of fish and I made some old noodles I found in my pantry for myself (gluten free and regular for my husband. I paid a friend $40 today to go out and buy me chicken and basic staples. She was in line in the rain for 3.5 hours only to hear they are out of poultry and the shelves were bare.

This isn’t Toilet paper. It’s basic staples. I have a sore throat and chills so I don’t Think it’s responsible for others that I leave. How do self quarantine eat if the major markets don’t have the basic?]]> susan.d GENERAL HEALTH FORUM Mon, 16 Mar 2020 23:14:27 +0000 https://www.afibbers.org/forum/read.php?10,173849,173942#msg-173942 Re: Corona Covid19 https://www.afibbers.org/forum/read.php?10,173849,173942#msg-173942
[www.cdc.gov]

Additionally, there are now reports indicating that those under 65 are also contracting the virus. One of the neighboring counties to where I live in Ohio.. Lake County... just reported its first case of the virus... in a person between 20 and 30 y.o.
So, and I've seen other reports that it's not limited to aging seniors but typically when children do get it, they aren't as sick and it's not as severe as in adults and most likely, those with other health issues as well.

J.]]> Jackie GENERAL HEALTH FORUM Mon, 16 Mar 2020 17:21:56 +0000