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****, a brilliant invovater, was a very strict vegan.  My brother as well was a vegetarian, he has prostate cancer, he is eating eggs and salmon, tuna now, I know canned tuna has mercury, nothing I can do.

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            <title>Re: vegetarian diet can kill</title>
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            <description><![CDATA[ &quot;maybe as far as heart health is concerned a veggie diet is good&quot;<br />
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Not for me. Occasional arrhythmias ended for good when I stopped eating veggies.<br />
A piece of fruit is OK, but &quot;vegetables, fruits, nuts, good protein, beans and some wheat products&quot; would kill me.<br />
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To have an arrhythmia now I must take too many stupid pills.<br />
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William]]></description>
            <dc:creator>William</dc:creator>
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            <pubDate>Sun, 16 Oct 2011 17:55:59 +0000</pubDate>
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            <title>Re: vegetarian diet can kill</title>
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            <description><![CDATA[ Liz - it&#039;s known that those on vegetarian diets are woefully low in the important B vitamins that facilitate methylation.  If you don&#039;t methylate, you&#039;re in big trouble either sooner or else, eventually.  Just as George comments on the glucose/insulin involvement, it can be a significant complication for some biochemistries....if not short term, then definitely long-term because of the influence on the brain and all that is now known about Alzheimers... as just one example.  <br />
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There is no way to know for sure if Steve J&#039;s diet influence the development of his cancer or not since there are so many factors to consider, not the least of which is genetics.<br />
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A person I know has a son (38) who developed liver cancer 2 years ago. They removed 2/3 of his liver and it has regenerated.  After chemo treatments, he was all clear until just now and more spots are evident.  Tragically, just now, his father who is early 60&#039;s fell ill and they are testing and reviewing a liver involvement and possibly a genetic pancreatic cancer link.  Not so coincidentally, the grandfather died at age 80 with pancreatic cancer.... so it can be a gene flaw that expresses early in some; latent in others.  Diet might influence it, but unless the flaw is identified, it&#039;s difficult to know how to suppress the expression which is the whole key.<br />
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Jackie]]></description>
            <dc:creator>Jackie</dc:creator>
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            <pubDate>Wed, 12 Oct 2011 04:50:05 +0000</pubDate>
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            <title>Re: vegetarian diet can kill</title>
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            <description><![CDATA[ Carol,<br />
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When I tested oatmeal that I made (rolled) myself from whole oats, it spiked my blood sugar just as surely as refined carbs, but maybe a bit slower.<br />
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Eating a long term whole foods veg (20 years) diet, my blood lipid metrics were wonderful.  However my blood sugar metrics were less than stellar.  It led me to change my approach.<br />
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George]]></description>
            <dc:creator>GeorgeN</dc:creator>
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            <pubDate>Tue, 11 Oct 2011 19:35:00 +0000</pubDate>
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            <title>Re: vegetarian diet can kill</title>
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            <description><![CDATA[ Carol:<br />
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I don&#039;t know the kind of Vegan diet that Steve Jxxs was on, it is just so strange.  I always thought my brother would have excellent health due to his diet, which lots of people think is good, maybe as far as heart health is concerned a veggie diet is good, but what happens to the rest of the body, that is what I see has happened to him.<br />
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I don&#039;t know the answer Carol, there are a lot of doctors and gurus out there that have the answers, but they really aren&#039;t.  I just believe that we need good food, lots of vegetables, fruits, nuts, good protein, beans and some wheat products.  I also don&#039;t believe in taking a lot of supplements, get your vitamins from food, I do take some supplements but don&#039;t go overboard.  <br />
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Liz]]></description>
            <dc:creator>Elizabeth H.</dc:creator>
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            <pubDate>Tue, 11 Oct 2011 17:13:55 +0000</pubDate>
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            <title>Re: vegetarian diet can kill</title>
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            <description><![CDATA[ Liz,<br />
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Isn&#039;t there some confusion here about the difference between a diet based on simple carbs as opposed to one based on complex carbs?  <br />
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Carol]]></description>
            <dc:creator>Carol</dc:creator>
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            <pubDate>Tue, 11 Oct 2011 12:19:22 +0000</pubDate>
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****, a brilliant invovater, was a very strict vegan.  My brother as well was a vegetarian, he has prostate cancer, he is eating eggs and salmon, tuna now, I know canned tuna has mercury, nothing I can do.<br />
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Liz]]></description>
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